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gininitalyPadova, Veneto Italy23 Threads 2,454 Postshttp://alive.in/libya/tag/what-is-happening-in-libya-right-now/
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tomcatwarne: I suppose to some Americans 1700 was the beginning of the world.
Still haven't lived down the loss of those 13 Colonies?
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ttom500: The US gets less than a single percent of Crude from Libya Chris....our would be a purely noble and non commerical reason for being in the new Libya with peace keeping forces
Maybe not. Oil is like money.
If those countries buying crude oil from Libya have to buy it from somewhere else, the cost for everyone will rise including US and it already has gone up way more than 1 percent at the gas pump.
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Conrad73: Still haven't lived down the loss of those 13 Colonies?
It was a wise move, look at the trouble we'd be in now with world public opinion
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tomcatwarne: It was a wise move, look at the trouble we'd be in now with world public opinion
But the UK isn't far behind!
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Conrad73: But the UK isn't far behind!
but behind
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roops kill Tripoli protesters as revolt swells
Reuters
By Tom Pfeiffer and Mohammed Abbas Tom Pfeiffer And Mohammed Abbas – 49 mins ago
BENGHAZI, Libya (Reuters) – Government forces shot dead two protesters in the Libyan capital Tripoli on Friday, Al Jazeera television reported, as a popular uprising against Muammar Gaddafi closed in on his main power base.
Pro-Gaddafi forces opened fire after hundreds of people in the Janzour district in western Tripoli started a protest march after Friday prayers, a resident, who asked not to be identified, told Reuters in an email.
He said protesters were also shouting anti-Gaddafi slogans in Fashloum in the city's east, and another resident said security forces had fired into the air there.
Al Jazeera said two people had been killed and several wounded in heavy shooting in several districts.
Tripoli and the surrounding area, where Gaddafi's forces had managed to stifle earlier protests, appear to be his last main stronghold as the revolt that has put the east under rebel control has also reportedly advanced through the west.
Zawiyah, an oil refining town on the main coastal highway 50 km (30 miles) west of Tripoli, has on successive nights fought off attempts by government forces to take control, said witnesses who fled across the Tunisian border at Ras Jdir.
"There are corpses everywhere ... It's a war in the true sense of the word," said Akila Jmaa, who crossed into Tunisia on Friday after traveling from the town.
Saeed Mustafa, who also drove through the town, said:
"There are army and police checkpoints around Zawiyah but there is no presence inside."
REBEL CONTROL
Army and police in the eastern city of Adjabiya told Al Jazeera television they had gone over to the opposition.
Other reports say the third city, Misrata, 200 km east of Tripoli, is also under rebel control. Such reports are hard to verify, with foreign correspondents unable to travel around western Libya, and telephone and broadband connections poor.
But Gaddafi's son Saif al-Islam said the government was in control of the west, south and center, and that his family had no intention of leaving.
"We have plans A, B and C. Plan A is to live and die in Libya. Plan B is to live and die in Libya. Plan C is to live and die in Libya," he told Turkey's CNN Turk television.
People in Benghazi, under rebel control, said friends in Tripoli had told them protesters had demonstrated at mosques throughout Tripoli and planned to converge on Green Square.
"At around 14:10 pm (7:10 a.m. EST), hundreds of protesters at the Slatnah Mosque in the Shargia district of Janzour were chanting anti-Gaddafi slogans, such as 'With our souls, with our blood we protect Benghazi!'," the Tripoli resident said.
Hadar, a businessman who declined to give his full name, told Reuters by telephone: "I saw two men fall down and someone told me they were shot in the head."
Ali, another businessman who declined to give his full name, told Reuters by phone that he was standing with a crowd near a mosque on a road leading to Green Square.
"They just started shooting people. People are being killed by snipers but I don't know how many are dead," he said.
U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay said "thousands" may have been killed or injured by Gaddafi's forces in the uprising, and called for international intervention to protect civilians........
Reuters
By Tom Pfeiffer and Mohammed Abbas Tom Pfeiffer And Mohammed Abbas – 49 mins ago
BENGHAZI, Libya (Reuters) – Government forces shot dead two protesters in the Libyan capital Tripoli on Friday, Al Jazeera television reported, as a popular uprising against Muammar Gaddafi closed in on his main power base.
Pro-Gaddafi forces opened fire after hundreds of people in the Janzour district in western Tripoli started a protest march after Friday prayers, a resident, who asked not to be identified, told Reuters in an email.
He said protesters were also shouting anti-Gaddafi slogans in Fashloum in the city's east, and another resident said security forces had fired into the air there.
Al Jazeera said two people had been killed and several wounded in heavy shooting in several districts.
Tripoli and the surrounding area, where Gaddafi's forces had managed to stifle earlier protests, appear to be his last main stronghold as the revolt that has put the east under rebel control has also reportedly advanced through the west.
Zawiyah, an oil refining town on the main coastal highway 50 km (30 miles) west of Tripoli, has on successive nights fought off attempts by government forces to take control, said witnesses who fled across the Tunisian border at Ras Jdir.
"There are corpses everywhere ... It's a war in the true sense of the word," said Akila Jmaa, who crossed into Tunisia on Friday after traveling from the town.
Saeed Mustafa, who also drove through the town, said:
"There are army and police checkpoints around Zawiyah but there is no presence inside."
REBEL CONTROL
Army and police in the eastern city of Adjabiya told Al Jazeera television they had gone over to the opposition.
Other reports say the third city, Misrata, 200 km east of Tripoli, is also under rebel control. Such reports are hard to verify, with foreign correspondents unable to travel around western Libya, and telephone and broadband connections poor.
But Gaddafi's son Saif al-Islam said the government was in control of the west, south and center, and that his family had no intention of leaving.
"We have plans A, B and C. Plan A is to live and die in Libya. Plan B is to live and die in Libya. Plan C is to live and die in Libya," he told Turkey's CNN Turk television.
People in Benghazi, under rebel control, said friends in Tripoli had told them protesters had demonstrated at mosques throughout Tripoli and planned to converge on Green Square.
"At around 14:10 pm (7:10 a.m. EST), hundreds of protesters at the Slatnah Mosque in the Shargia district of Janzour were chanting anti-Gaddafi slogans, such as 'With our souls, with our blood we protect Benghazi!'," the Tripoli resident said.
Hadar, a businessman who declined to give his full name, told Reuters by telephone: "I saw two men fall down and someone told me they were shot in the head."
Ali, another businessman who declined to give his full name, told Reuters by phone that he was standing with a crowd near a mosque on a road leading to Green Square.
"They just started shooting people. People are being killed by snipers but I don't know how many are dead," he said.
U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay said "thousands" may have been killed or injured by Gaddafi's forces in the uprising, and called for international intervention to protect civilians........
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tomcatwarne: but behind
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Nick Childs Defence and security correspondent, BBC News
International efforts to co-ordinate a response to the Libya crisis are clearly gathering pace, after some criticism that it's taken too long.
A number of European nations have been mobilising their militaries to assist in evacuation efforts. With increasing military assets arriving on the scene, some Nato members clearly think co-ordinating and supporting these efforts is something that perhaps Nato could and should do.
Any alliance involvement is likely at first to be limited to that. But international concern over events has been mounting, and questions are being raised about what contingencies - including military ones - are being planned, should the situation on the ground deteriorate further, and foreign nationals become stranded.
There continues to be talk of a possible no-fly zone. Would Nato become involved in that? The obstacles include whether there is an appetite or a consensus to establish one, whether it would really have much impact, and who might enforce it.
For Nato, Italy and France probably have the nearest suitable air bases, or perhaps Greece. Otherwise, it might be a case of the United States, France, Italy or Spain deploying aircraft carriers. Clearly, that would be a major step.
International efforts to co-ordinate a response to the Libya crisis are clearly gathering pace, after some criticism that it's taken too long.
A number of European nations have been mobilising their militaries to assist in evacuation efforts. With increasing military assets arriving on the scene, some Nato members clearly think co-ordinating and supporting these efforts is something that perhaps Nato could and should do.
Any alliance involvement is likely at first to be limited to that. But international concern over events has been mounting, and questions are being raised about what contingencies - including military ones - are being planned, should the situation on the ground deteriorate further, and foreign nationals become stranded.
There continues to be talk of a possible no-fly zone. Would Nato become involved in that? The obstacles include whether there is an appetite or a consensus to establish one, whether it would really have much impact, and who might enforce it.
For Nato, Italy and France probably have the nearest suitable air bases, or perhaps Greece. Otherwise, it might be a case of the United States, France, Italy or Spain deploying aircraft carriers. Clearly, that would be a major step.
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gininitaly: Yeah that was fascinating wasn't it? And talking to a Greek when she said it.
did I miss something?
Why does it matter that he's Greek? 
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Conrad73: Still haven't lived down the loss of those 13 Colonies?
Who lost 13 colonies?
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Two British Royal Air Force Chinook helicopters landed in Malta this afternoon, augmenting the RAF effort which already includes two Hercules transport aircraft.
The large Chinooks are seen as ideal aircraft for rescuing people in areas where there are no runways, such as the desert.
Both Britain and Malta have spoken of the difficulties they face in evacuating workers from desert oil rigs. Such heavy-lift aircraft have also been used for resupply operations and the insertion of special forces.
The large Chinooks are seen as ideal aircraft for rescuing people in areas where there are no runways, such as the desert.
Both Britain and Malta have spoken of the difficulties they face in evacuating workers from desert oil rigs. Such heavy-lift aircraft have also been used for resupply operations and the insertion of special forces.
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zeus911: Two British Royal Air Force Chinook helicopters landed in Malta this afternoon, augmenting the RAF effort which already includes two Hercules transport aircraft.
The large Chinooks are seen as ideal aircraft for rescuing people in areas where there are no runways, such as the desert.
Both Britain and Malta have spoken of the difficulties they face in evacuating workers from desert oil rigs. Such heavy-lift aircraft have also been used for resupply operations and the insertion of special forces.
The large Chinooks are seen as ideal aircraft for rescuing people in areas where there are no runways, such as the desert.
Both Britain and Malta have spoken of the difficulties they face in evacuating workers from desert oil rigs. Such heavy-lift aircraft have also been used for resupply operations and the insertion of special forces.
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In a Malta International Airport update it has been reported that around 2000 persons have landed in Malta from Tripoli since Monday.
There have been a total of 69 aircraft movements at Malta International Airport since Monday directly related to the situation in Libya.
MIA said 31 flights were operated by commercial airlines, 21 by military aircraft and 17 by small private aircraft.
So far normal scheduled operations at MIA have not been affected.
There have been a total of 69 aircraft movements at Malta International Airport since Monday directly related to the situation in Libya.
MIA said 31 flights were operated by commercial airlines, 21 by military aircraft and 17 by small private aircraft.
So far normal scheduled operations at MIA have not been affected.
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zeus911: Two British Royal Air Force Chinook helicopters landed in Malta this afternoon, augmenting the RAF effort which already includes two Hercules transport aircraft.
The large Chinooks are seen as ideal aircraft for rescuing people in areas where there are no runways, such as the desert.
Both Britain and Malta have spoken of the difficulties they face in evacuating workers from desert oil rigs. Such heavy-lift aircraft have also been used for resupply operations and the insertion of special forces.
The large Chinooks are seen as ideal aircraft for rescuing people in areas where there are no runways, such as the desert.
Both Britain and Malta have spoken of the difficulties they face in evacuating workers from desert oil rigs. Such heavy-lift aircraft have also been used for resupply operations and the insertion of special forces.
Excuse my ignorance but, what would happen to the oil rigs if no one was running them? Can they not be shut down till everything in Lybia is over with? Why resupply the people there when they could be in just as much danger?
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It has been reported that Tripoli has closed its airspace, so much so that an Egypt Air aircraft circling outside Libyan airspace has not been allowed to land. This update comes from Air Malta’s Crisis Operations Room.
Pilot Charles Pace, who operated Air Malta’s flight from Tripoli which landed here at 1.30 p.m., said that the apron in Tripoli was now practically deserted and the feeling was an eerie one with the situation being very different to that described by the pilots who had operated earlier flights. He added there was absolute calm and emptiness with very little happening.
Air Malta’s country manager in Libya Anthony Dalli returning to Malta from Tripoli today said there had been around 6,000 people at Tripoli Airport and another 2,000 outside and Air Malta representatives had run in and out of the terminal carrying a Maltese flag to attract the attention of any Maltese there.
One of the people on the Crisis Intervention Team, who represented the airline’s insurers, said that Libya had been declared a war zone and as a result the premium the airline had to pay for each flight had shot up.
It was pointed out that pilots and crew manning Air Malta flights to Libya were doing so voluntarily.
As I had reported some days ago, it has been reported that would-be passengers making their way to Tripoli Airport, were being stopped and checked, having their mobile phones, cameras and other electronic equipment taken away.
Pilot Charles Pace, who operated Air Malta’s flight from Tripoli which landed here at 1.30 p.m., said that the apron in Tripoli was now practically deserted and the feeling was an eerie one with the situation being very different to that described by the pilots who had operated earlier flights. He added there was absolute calm and emptiness with very little happening.
Air Malta’s country manager in Libya Anthony Dalli returning to Malta from Tripoli today said there had been around 6,000 people at Tripoli Airport and another 2,000 outside and Air Malta representatives had run in and out of the terminal carrying a Maltese flag to attract the attention of any Maltese there.
One of the people on the Crisis Intervention Team, who represented the airline’s insurers, said that Libya had been declared a war zone and as a result the premium the airline had to pay for each flight had shot up.
It was pointed out that pilots and crew manning Air Malta flights to Libya were doing so voluntarily.
As I had reported some days ago, it has been reported that would-be passengers making their way to Tripoli Airport, were being stopped and checked, having their mobile phones, cameras and other electronic equipment taken away.
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Colleene1024: Excuse my ignorance but, what would happen to the oil rigs if no one was running them? Can they not be shut down till everything in Lybia is over with? Why resupply the people there when they could be in just as much danger?
I'm no expert on oil fields but do know that shutting one down is easier said than done and leaving them unattended could also prove dangerous however Libyan forces may decide to attack them in retaliation and thus personnel there are in grave danger.The resupply operations mentioned is more for food, equipment, weapons, and/or troops that may be required in a salvage or counter offensive operation. However all that is simply conjectures at this point, for all we know they may be intended for evacuations in remote areas.
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Protesters in the Libyan capital Tripoli braved deadly fire from loyalists of Muammar Gaddafi today as his opponents in other cities braced for a fightback by a regime suffering new defections.
Unconfirmed reports also claimed that Mitiga airforce base just outside Tripoli has fallen to rebels after a series of defections. The base had been used by aircraft which bombed Benghazi and other locations, and confirmation of the development would mean a major turning point in the fight against Col Gaddafi.
Unconfirmed reports also claimed that Mitiga airforce base just outside Tripoli has fallen to rebels after a series of defections. The base had been used by aircraft which bombed Benghazi and other locations, and confirmation of the development would mean a major turning point in the fight against Col Gaddafi.
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Bless the pilot and crew members who voluntary put their safety on the line to help people....
Thanks so much for the update zues
Thanks so much for the update zues
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zeus911: I'm no expert on oil fields but do know that shutting one down is easier said than done and leaving them unattended could also prove dangerous however Libyan forces may decide to attack them in retaliation and thus personnel there are in grave danger.
The resupply operations mentioned is more for food, equipment, weapons, and/or troops that may be required in a salvage or counter offensive operation. However all that is simply conjectures at this point, for all we know they may be intended for evacuations in remote areas.
The resupply operations mentioned is more for food, equipment, weapons, and/or troops that may be required in a salvage or counter offensive operation. However all that is simply conjectures at this point, for all we know they may be intended for evacuations in remote areas.
Thank you for explaining.
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