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Mar 17, 2011 2:18 AM CST this president is a commander in cowardnice
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
greathearted: What propaganda? What mountain?

None of that started until you showed up, so blame yourself for that.


Okay. Got me on that one. This contention has never before been cited by anybody at any time. rolling on the floor laughing

greathearted: So, according to your logic, the White House staff, including Rumsfeld, weren't smart enough to realise the banner they created, supplied, and put on display, might not be misconstrued by the media as meaning the war in Iraq was over. That they must have been a bunch of bumbling idiots not to see that coming.


Considering the AL had just completed a mission, the President was nalding on the ship to give a speech welcoming them back from their (dare I say it?) 'completed mission' having a banner staing they had done just that was not a good thing to post?

greathearted: Ok, I'll buy that. Still, no reason to blame the Navy for all of it, and that was the point I was making in the first place, it's wrong to go blaming others for your own mistakes.


Well I certainty never blamed people for tying the two things together. AL completed a mission. Bush congratulated them for it and then never said he or the country had completed theirs. That's my point.

greathearted: Feel free to blame the Navy if you like, or even Obama for that matter, it'll still be wrong.


Blame the navy for what? I never said they put a poster up but did say they had completed a mission. Hence, the poster is what it is, representative of a completed mission.
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Mar 17, 2011 2:20 AM CST this president is a commander in cowardnice
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Sorry, my post above had some errors in it, the quotes were from Kid at heart. Don't know why it said greathearted.doh
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Mar 17, 2011 2:20 AM CST this president is a commander in cowardnice
mcajr1979
mcajr1979mcajr1979Los Angeles, California USA1 Threads 1 Polls 13 Posts
Big deal. Firstly, as I said he is trying to fix the problems that Bush created and secondly, we will always have a debt. it is how the economy works. Sometimes you have to spend money to make money. In this case sometimes you have to spend money to jumstart the economy which is improving..Look at Bush..he spent money but gave it to the rich people/ Companies recieved bailouts and what did they do with the money? Bought vacation homes in other countries and so on. used to money for themselves rather then having it go back into our economy. If that money was devided between each adult american it would have been something like $250,000 per person. Many people could have paid off their house and that would have allowed them to use that money to stimulate the economy. Instead that money was wasted.
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Mar 17, 2011 2:21 AM CST this president is a commander in cowardnice
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
nitro2345: wow the person that always posts without any support for his words,al,pst to the poit of stating his words as absolute truth is now asking me for some, go and find about it 4urself for a change


Already did. None except bombing Gadaffi.

What you got?confused
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Mar 17, 2011 2:23 AM CST this president is a commander in cowardnice
mcajr1979: Big deal. Firstly, as I said he is trying to fix the problems that Bush created and secondly, we will always have a debt. it is how the economy works. Sometimes you have to spend money to make money. In this case sometimes you have to spend money to jumstart the economy which is improving..Look at Bush..he spent money but gave it to the rich people/ Companies recieved bailouts and what did they do with the money? Bought vacation homes in other countries and so on. used to money for themselves rather then having it go back into our economy. If that money was devided between each adult american it would have been something like $250,000 per person. Many people could have paid off their house and that would have allowed them to use that money to stimulate the economy. Instead that money was wasted.
..and who did Obama bail out with even more Money?rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 17, 2011 2:23 AM CST this president is a commander in cowardnice
mcajr1979
mcajr1979mcajr1979Los Angeles, California USA1 Threads 1 Polls 13 Posts
Who cares about who bombed who. We are in war of ten years that was started by BUSH. If he wasn't such an idiot we would not be in such bad shape.
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Mar 17, 2011 2:24 AM CST this president is a commander in cowardnice
Conrad73: ..and who did Obama bail out with even more Money?
Soros' Cronies!
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Mar 17, 2011 2:26 AM CST this president is a commander in cowardnice
mcajr1979: Who cares about who bombed who. We are in war of ten years that was started by BUSH. If he wasn't such an idiot we would not be in such bad shape.
Sure glad that Cali is in such excellent Fiscal Shape!
You're even worse off than the rest of the Nation,and you can't blame Bush for that!
Bush has gone 2+ years,and all your Fellow did was pushing you deeper in Crap.rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 17, 2011 2:27 AM CST this president is a commander in cowardnice
mcajr1979
mcajr1979mcajr1979Los Angeles, California USA1 Threads 1 Polls 13 Posts
I never said he was perfect. I frankly don't give a crap because I don't agree with everything anyone does. I have my own viewpoints and I would do things differently. The point is, we are not in this situation because of this president; we are in this situation because of the last president. i am leaving now..you all can keep arguing..have a good night.
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Mar 17, 2011 2:27 AM CST this president is a commander in cowardnice
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
Albertaghost: Okay. Got me on that one. This contention has never before been cited by anybody at any time.
Considering the AL had just completed a mission, the President was nalding on the ship to give a speech welcoming them back from their (dare I say it?) 'completed mission' having a banner staing they had done just that was not a good thing to post?
Well I certainty never blamed people for tying the two things together. AL completed a mission. Bush congratulated them for it and then never said he or the country had completed theirs. That's my point.
Blame the navy for what? I never said they put a poster up but did say they had completed a mission. Hence, the poster is what it is, representative of a completed mission.




Freddy was laying the blame on the Navy, saying that Bush had nothing to do with it, or did you fail to see that.

Maybe you need better glasses.

comfort
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Mar 17, 2011 2:27 AM CST this president is a commander in cowardnice
mcajr1979: I never said he was perfect. I frankly don't give a crap because I don't agree with everything anyone does. I have my own viewpoints and I would do things differently. The point is, we are not in this situation because of this president; we are in this situation because of the last president. i am leaving now..you all can keep arguing..have a good night.
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Mar 17, 2011 2:28 AM CST this president is a commander in cowardnice
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
mcajr1979: Who cares about who bombed who. We are in war of ten years that was started by BUSH. If he wasn't such an idiot we would not be in such bad shape.


Ya you and we would be in worse shape!

Al Qaeda would control Pakistan and possibly Saudi Arabia, oil would be two hundred plus a barrel and Saddam would be manufacturing nuclear warheads if Israel hasn't taken him out and created WW111 to stop him.

Course, Obama's handicap would have gone down though which would be the only good news you'd hear.
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Mar 17, 2011 2:33 AM CST this president is a commander in cowardnice
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
kidatheart: Freddy was laying the blame on the Navy, saying that Bush had nothing to do with it, or did you fail to see that.

Maybe you need better glasses.


rolling on the floor laughing

Got Alzheimers or what kid? I responded to your link and quoted it. Then I added;

""As for Rumsfeld taking out any reference to Mission Accomplished I do believe that this shows that nobody in the Administration believed nor wished to have the public view the major combat operations as the end of the mission. ""

Then you got all in a fluster. So, other than glasses, I'd say you need a note pad to keep up or else, just stay out of these complicated discussions as you seem to have problems dealing with them.professor
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Mar 17, 2011 2:36 AM CST this president is a commander in cowardnice
nitro2345
nitro2345nitro2345CIUDAD JUAREZ, Chihuahua Mexico81 Posts
Albertaghost: Ya you and we would be in worse shape!

Al Qaeda would control Pakistan and possibly Saudi Arabia, oil would be two hundred plus a barrel and Saddam would be manufacturing nuclear warheads if Israel hasn't taken him out and created WW111 to stop him.

Course, Obama's handicap would have gone down though which would be the only good news you'd hear.
please show us 1, yes just 1, a single piece of a wmd that saddam was manufacturing, oh right a complete national goverment hasn't been able to show us one so you I'm asking you too much..
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Mar 17, 2011 2:39 AM CST this president is a commander in cowardnice
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
nitro2345: please show us 1, yes just 1, a single piece of a wmd that saddam was manufacturing, oh right a complete national goverment hasn't been able to show us one so you I'm asking you too much..


Never said he had any but did make them and was intent of reconstituting the programs soon as the UN gave up.



Night.
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Mar 17, 2011 2:45 AM CST this president is a commander in cowardnice
lobohia
lobohialobohiaEast London, Eastern Cape South Africa1 Posts
He is only a puppet
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Mar 17, 2011 2:45 AM CST this president is a commander in cowardnice
nitro2345
nitro2345nitro2345CIUDAD JUAREZ, Chihuahua Mexico81 Posts
lol that's your proof? an American media report? 60 minutes... lol u just wasted the benefit of the doubt I was giving you, when a part involved is also the judge, objective criteria suffers and 1 cute little puppy dies, good night
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Mar 17, 2011 2:51 AM CST this president is a commander in cowardnice
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
nitro2345: lol that's your proof? an American media report? 60 minutes... lol u just wasted the benefit of the doubt I was giving you, when a part involved is also the judge, objective criteria suffers and 1 cute little puppy dies, good night


Proof of Saddam wanting to reconstitute his WMD program. I never said he had any WMDs and am still waiting for your prof that the US supported Gadaffi.

sleep
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Mar 17, 2011 2:52 AM CST this president is a commander in cowardnice
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
Albertaghost: Got Alzheimers or what kid? I responded to your link and quoted it. Then I added;

""As for Rumsfeld taking out any reference to Mission Accomplished I do believe that this shows that nobody in the Administration believed nor wished to have the public view the major combat operations as the end of the mission. ""

Then you got all in a fluster. So, other than glasses, I'd say you need a note pad to keep up or else, just stay out of these complicated discussions as you seem to have problems dealing with them.



So, what is it that you're trying to argue then? Or are you just trying to argue for the sake of arguement alone.dunno

Freddy tried to blame the Navy, I refuted that claim, end of story. Then you roll in and attempt to twist things into some sort of conspiracy that the Bush administration was trying to dupe the American public by putting up a banner.

Sorry, you're the one that's confused. comfort

Nice try though.laugh
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Mar 17, 2011 7:26 AM CST this president is a commander in cowardnice
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
In response to: ...the president is showing his colors when he is concentrating on his golf....



C'mon, we all know that the presidency is just a figurehead role anyway, sort of like the Royal Family in the UK.

He gets to grandstand, but he has no real role in deciding anything that happens.

Presidents are puppets and woe be unto any president who tries to free himself from the strings.
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