Landing on Moon: was that true?????? ( Archived) (947)

May 20, 2011 11:57 AM CST Landing on Moon: was that true??????
tallman51
tallman51tallman51Limerick, Ireland9 Threads 1 Polls 3,327 Posts
Day 4 of the Endeavour Mission !





This is very interesting stuff !!

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May 20, 2011 12:21 PM CST Landing on Moon: was that true??????
tallman51
tallman51tallman51Limerick, Ireland9 Threads 1 Polls 3,327 Posts
galrads: hahaha why don't you dudes get it out of the way and just get married )blues and Tall together forever( hahaha

I do love his silly links though !!
It's no wonder that people believe all that crap !!!

Got any Santa and Toothfairy links ??


wow






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May 20, 2011 6:18 PM CST Landing on Moon: was that true??????
tallman51
tallman51tallman51Limerick, Ireland9 Threads 1 Polls 3,327 Posts
First Spacewalk Complete; Focused Inspection to Proceed
Fri, 20 May 2011 11:49:19 PM UTC+0100

Endeavour astronauts completed a 6-hour, 19-minute spacewalk at the International Space Station Friday, retrieving materials experiments and installing another, and installing an antenna.

Mission Specialists Andrew Feustel and Greg Chamitoff also installed a light on a station handcart, set up equipment for adding ammonia to a cooling loop and installed a cover on a rotary joint for solar arrays.

An issue with a carbon dioxide level sensor in Chamitoff’s suit caused replanning of the later part of the spacewalk. Removal of a micro meteoroid debris shield to access some cable connection points and to hookup some of the cables was put on hold to ensure Chamitoff would be back in the airlock early. The spacewalk ended at 9:29 a.m. EDT.

The Mission Management Team decided to proceed with a focused inspection of one damage site on Endeavour’s underside Saturday morning. The location is between the right main landing gear door and the External Tank disconnect door.

The rest of Endeavour’s heat shield has been cleared for entry from ascent debris damage.

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May 21, 2011 2:46 AM CST Landing on Moon: was that true??????

Creedence Clearwater Revival: Bad Moon Rising rolling on the floor laughing
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May 21, 2011 2:48 AM CST Landing on Moon: was that true??????
Blues63
Blues63Blues63Brisbane, Queensland Australia6 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
Conrad73: Creedence Clearwater Revival: Bad Moon Rising


Hey Conrad wave


Can you believe this childish moron? laugh All talk and no substance.
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May 21, 2011 2:55 AM CST Landing on Moon: was that true??????
Blues63: Hey Conrad Can you believe this childish moron? All talk and no substance.
as far as I am concerned,the Landing was real¨!
Impossible to keep an International Conspiracy quiet this long!
They couldn't even keep a BJ in the Oval Office quiet!grin
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May 21, 2011 3:25 AM CST Landing on Moon: was that true??????
Blues63
Blues63Blues63Brisbane, Queensland Australia6 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
Conrad73: as far as I am concerned,the Landing was real¨!
Impossible to keep an International Conspiracy quiet this long!
They couldn't even keep a BJ in the Oval Office quiet!


rolling on the floor laughing Yeah, or a break-in. rolling on the floor laughing It's funny how people love this stuff.

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May 21, 2011 3:27 AM CST Landing on Moon: was that true??????
Angelo9
Angelo9Angelo9Dublin, Ireland8 Threads 688 Posts
Blues63: Yeah, or a break-in. It's funny how people love this stuff.


Cracks me up, every time. rolling on the floor laughing

Ah, the humanity...doh

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May 21, 2011 3:34 AM CST Landing on Moon: was that true??????
curly28
curly28curly28Perth, Western Australia Australia53 Threads 5,450 Posts
tallman51: Of course it wasn't real !!! Science has proven many times that the radiation would have burned them up. All of the footage and photos look so fake.
This is the one that I can't wait to see the americans finally explain !!!
It was also very convenient that all the original footage went missing the day before it was to be inspected by experts.

Come on America !!!! Tell us the truth !!!
You have lied to us for way too long on this one !!!!!


Yeah the mind boggels. I mean all these years gone by and they haven't really done much in space on other planets with all this advanced technolegy today spending millions or should I say billions or maybe zillions excuse me I made that one up blushing At least I am honest. I don't think the world is any wiser.dunno All those $$$$$ lost in space or are they hmmmmm
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May 21, 2011 3:37 AM CST Landing on Moon: was that true??????
curly28
curly28curly28Perth, Western Australia Australia53 Threads 5,450 Posts
curly28: Yeah the mind boggels. I mean all these years gone by and they haven't really done much in space on other planets with all this advanced technolegy today spending millions or should I say billions or maybe zillions excuse me I made that one up At least I am honest. I don't think the world is any wiser. All those $$$$$ lost in space or are they hmmmmm


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May 21, 2011 3:39 AM CST Landing on Moon: was that true??????
Rockabillyrouge
RockabillyrougeRockabillyrougeCork, Ireland2 Threads 155 Posts
One thing that I dont think has been addressed in this hoax theory is this. I can understand the thinking behind NASA faking a moon landing, it was a race to beat the Russians and prove America was top dog in the space race. Now to do that obviously would involve unimaginable consequences and embarresment if it was ever found out that it was a fake, so why on earth would they fake it SIX TIMES, and also fake the Apollo 13 accident, what possible reason would they have to fake a mission that went wrong, after all, if the purpose of the hoax was to say that America put men on the Moon first, you only need to be first once, not 6 times.

Another point of interest is at the time, the Cold War was at it's height and both the USA and the USSR would jump at the slightest chance of showing up or exposing each other. To this day the Russians have not said a thing about any suspicious activity regarding the landings. Now various people have put forward reasons for the Russians "keeping quiet" ranging from "the CIA were pulling the strings",,, er sorry , even if the CIA were pulling NASA's strings, they most certainly were not in any position to pull the Russian's strings and if the landings were fake, you can bet your bottom dollar the Russians would have made it public knowledge straight away as it would have been the biggest propaganda victory they could ever hope for. Another reason put forward for the Russians keeping quiet is that they didn't have the technology to track a craft to the Moon, which is somewhat self contradicting seeing as the Russian's actually landed a small unmanned probe on the Moon several hours before Apollo 11 landed, that event was obviously overshadowed by the Apollo landing and not widely known about but none the less, in order to do that the Russians obviously had to have technology capable of tracking a craft to the Moon.

If the FAA are investigating the Moon landings, I dont think it's anything to do with the authenticity or otherwise of the Landings, it's more than likely they are investigating something like the financial aspect, or possibly something more sinister such as the true purpose of the landings (quite possibly a military purpose) or, perhaps even they found something on the Moon that we're not being told about.

To fake one landing, possibly, but to fake six landings, no way on earth can you keep 150,000 people quiet for 40 years, it's not going to happen.
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May 21, 2011 4:04 AM CST Landing on Moon: was that true??????
Blues63
Blues63Blues63Brisbane, Queensland Australia6 Threads 1 Polls 2,934 Posts
Rockabillyrouge: One thing that I dont think has been addressed in this hoax theory is this. I can understand the thinking behind NASA faking a moon landing, it was a race to beat the Russians and prove America was top dog in the space race. Now to do that obviously would involve unimaginable consequences and embarresment if it was ever found out that it was a fake, so why on earth would they fake it SIX TIMES, and also fake the Apollo 13 accident, what possible reason would they have to fake a mission that went wrong, after all, if the purpose of the hoax was to say that America put men on the Moon first, you only need to be first once, not 6 times.

Another point of interest is at the time, the Cold War was at it's height and both the USA and the USSR would jump at the slightest chance of showing up or exposing each other. To this day the Russians have not said a thing about any suspicious activity regarding the landings. Now various people have put forward reasons for the Russians "keeping quiet" ranging from "the CIA were pulling the strings",,, er sorry , even if the CIA were pulling NASA's strings, they most certainly were not in any position to pull the Russian's strings and if the landings were fake, you can bet your bottom dollar the Russians would have made it public knowledge straight away as it would have been the biggest propaganda victory they could ever hope for. Another reason put forward for the Russians keeping quiet is that they didn't have the technology to track a craft to the Moon, which is somewhat self contradicting seeing as the Russian's actually landed a small unmanned probe on the Moon several hours before Apollo 11 landed, that event was obviously overshadowed by the Apollo landing and not widely known about but none the less, in order to do that the Russians obviously had to have technology capable of tracking a craft to the Moon.

If the FAA are investigating the Moon landings, I dont think it's anything to do with the authenticity or otherwise of the Landings, it's more than likely they are investigating something like the financial aspect, or possibly something more sinister such as the true purpose of the landings (quite possibly a military purpose) or, perhaps even they found something on the Moon that we're not being told about.

To fake one landing, possibly, but to fake six landings, no way on earth can you keep 150,000 people quiet for 40 years, it's not going to happen.


There you go applying logic. It always ruins a good fairy tale.


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May 21, 2011 5:44 AM CST Landing on Moon: was that true??????
raphael118
raphael118raphael118arlington, Virginia USA8 Threads 2 Polls 1,074 Posts
tallman51: I do love his silly links though !!
It's no wonder that people believe all that crap !!!

Got any Santa and Toothfairy links ??




Tell me, i know youre irish, but do you still believe in the birther conspiracy?rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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May 21, 2011 8:26 AM CST Landing on Moon: was that true??????
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
tallman51: I do love his silly links though !!
It's no wonder that people believe all that crap !!!

Got any Santa and Toothfairy links ??
Well, Wernher Von Braun did admit that Aliens helped him develop the technology used then in the Saturn V rocket and lunar orbiters. dunno laugh
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May 21, 2011 11:22 AM CST Landing on Moon: was that true??????
serrambi
serrambiserrambisantos, Sao Paulo Brazil5 Threads 303 Posts
doh

I ever have this discussion here with people, and I like to ask it !
I never had believed that americans could touched the moon !

I too much far for that ridiculous Apollos! Maybe they only got a turn around the Earth, is the only I can believe !
They had many troubles!!

Nasa is for many years spending loads of money with it, maybe the humanity could be better with this money that went to the waste!

NOw, we are with more technology, so, I believe the man will be able to touch the moon in some hundred of years !!!

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May 21, 2011 3:19 PM CST Landing on Moon: was that true??????
tallman51
tallman51tallman51Limerick, Ireland9 Threads 1 Polls 3,327 Posts
May 21, 2011 5:14 PM CST Landing on Moon: was that true??????
xxDandelionxx
xxDandelionxxxxDandelionxxunknown, Hampshire, England UK8 Threads 2,525 Posts
Most people believe it and most are horrified at the very suggestion that it may not be so. Not sure whether it is a patriotism thing or a romantic, ideallistic notion that they feel is being thwarted...?

For me, I certainly am sceptical...... sorry!

I don't really hold with the usual cliched conspiracy theories, although some of them have made what seem valid and plausible reasons ("excuses"?) for their argument but, that aside, I am with Tallman on this. We haven't the technology NOW let alone in 1969!!

There are arguments that hold water (for me, anyways) for it not being real and I do reserve the right to make my own mind up.

I choose...... NO, it wasn't true! (ducking from all the rotten tomatoes).

For a wee bit of entertainment, watch the film "Capricorn One". Just a thought...?!
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May 21, 2011 5:18 PM CST Landing on Moon: was that true??????
tallman51
tallman51tallman51Limerick, Ireland9 Threads 1 Polls 3,327 Posts
xxDandelionxx: Most people believe it and most are horrified at the very suggestion that it may not be so. Not sure whether it is a patriotism thing or a romantic, ideallistic notion that they feel is being thwarted...?

For me, I certainly am sceptical...... sorry!

I don't really hold with the usual cliched conspiracy theories, although some of them have made what seem valid and plausible reasons ("excuses"?) for their argument but, that aside, I am with Tallman on this. We haven't the technology NOW let alone in 1969!!

There are arguments that hold water (for me, anyways) for it not being real and I do reserve the right to make my own mind up.

I choose...... NO, it wasn't true! (ducking from all the rotten tomatoes).

For a wee bit of entertainment, watch the film "Capricorn One". Just a thought...?!

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May 21, 2011 9:02 PM CST Landing on Moon: was that true??????
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
The greatest and most incontestable proof that the moon landings were a hoax is the radiation problem.

Space is a very hostile environment for life. Not only is there no air and no gravity, there is intense radiation.

First there are the Van Allen belts of high energy charged particles that result from Cosmic Radiation.

A spacecraft shielded by 3 mm of aluminum in an expanding elliptic orbit designed to transfer the craft from earth orbit to lunar orbit would spend many hours within the Van allen belts and astronauts would receive a near lethal dose of high energy radiation.

Those who try to discredit this fact by citing the speed of the craft and the thickness of the belts are making a serious fundamental error of logic.

A spacecraft doesn't fly directly toward the moon in a straight line. It starts off in earth orbit and then accelerates elongating that orbit into an ellipse that continues to elongate and eventually lifts the craft into the gravitational field of the moon. It's not a straight line at all. Even the moon is in earth orbit so the spacecraft remains in earth orbit during the entire trip.

So its passage through the van allen belts is not a simple perpendicular crossing at full speed as the scammers imply.
It is a slowly expanding circular passage through the belt that takes many hours.

And it must not be forgotten that the Van Allen belts actually protect the earth from the much more intense Cosmic Rays.

Once beyond the Van Allen shields, and for the entire duration of the journey, including the entire time they are on the moon, astronauts would be subjected to the full brunt of solar flares, and cosmic radiation.

When the Sun flares, it produces x-rays, gamma-rays, and energetic particles. The energetic particles are the worst, but they travel slower through space so astronauts might have a few minutes warning before they arrived. Perhaps enough time to get into a 'storm shelter' in the center of the ship, surrounded by water tanks and any metal gear. Without a storm shelter a single solar flare of even moderate magnitude would quickly kill the astronauts through radiation sickness.

Besides solar flares, Galactic cosmic rays are one of the most important barriers to interplanetary travel. Cosmic Rays threaten electronics as well as human health.

Of course the scammers say it isn't so. What else can they say?
They aren't about to admit they have been lying. There would be no forgiveness for such lies. So, like it or not, they are bound to their stories.

One can chose to believe the hoax.
One can choose to believe in the Easter Bunny too.
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May 21, 2011 9:18 PM CST Landing on Moon: was that true??????
raphael118
raphael118raphael118arlington, Virginia USA8 Threads 2 Polls 1,074 Posts
PEOPLE HAD SOMETHING called telescopes back then- even in Russia. They could track the landing all over the world. If we staged it they would know immediately and use it for devastating propaganda.
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