Does The Classless Society Really Exist? Can It Ever? (67)
Can humanity ever truely get to a point where we are all equal, are all classless, and no-one is considered on a higher ranking than anyone else?
Only if we evolve or transform into something completely different with a different hardware and nervous system.
Who judges others in this capacity more? Men or women? Or are they both equally judgemental?
The art or act of judging is fundamental and necessary for survival. It's one of the processes our mind uses to distinguish between good and bad, more or less, rich or poor, delicious or rancid, stupid or intelligent. The judgments we make decide the actions we take. We need our ability to judge just as much as we need our lungs.
Women and men do it equally but lots of women claim not to do it at all.
Only if we evolve or transform into something completely different with a different hardware and nervous system.
Who judges others in this capacity more? Men or women? Or are they both equally judgemental?
The art or act of judging is fundamental and necessary for survival. It's one of the processes our mind uses to distinguish between good and bad, more or less, rich or poor, delicious or rancid, stupid or intelligent. The judgments we make decide the actions we take. We need our ability to judge just as much as we need our lungs.
Women and men do it equally but lots of women claim not to do it at all.
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Aswina: felix, I am afraid... it was not a language barrier, I speak your native language and as well 3 other languages. "Social groups" is expession used by EU in Europe... class is not accepted any more in deeds and documents. And my playing with word and world... just easy example how is easy to play with words...
Thanks for what?
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venusenvy: I suppose there will always be different "classes" in society...however I dont give a crap. It only matters if you let it
Blimey, thanks for your input!
It was meant as a discussion point.
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very,very good thread!!!But let´s be clear about this,-what is class?Who/what defines it?
"Equality" is Socialism,-and that´s a complete disaster,-I know,-I´m brainwashed with it...
Yes,there´s,thankfully,always gonna be a difference between people,-for 100 reasons....
You´re thread is good,but very close to Marxism....be careful...
"Equality" is Socialism,-and that´s a complete disaster,-I know,-I´m brainwashed with it...
Yes,there´s,thankfully,always gonna be a difference between people,-for 100 reasons....
You´re thread is good,but very close to Marxism....be careful...
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AtwoZ: very,very good thread!!!But let´s be clear about this,-what is class?Who/what defines it?
"Equality" is Socialism,-and that´s a complete disaster,-I know,-I´m brainwashed with it...
Yes,there´s,thankfully,always gonna be a difference between people,-for 100 reasons....
You´re thread is good,but very close to Marxism....be careful...
"Equality" is Socialism,-and that´s a complete disaster,-I know,-I´m brainwashed with it...
Yes,there´s,thankfully,always gonna be a difference between people,-for 100 reasons....
You´re thread is good,but very close to Marxism....be careful...
Thank you.
There was a time on CS when you could post a topic such as this, and have a really good, informative discussion.
That time, it seems, has passed.
The thoughts expressed in my OP are for discussion purposes; they do not purport to express any political views, they simply offer an opportunity for discussion and idea exchange.
Maybe the "Do you Screw on the First Date" threads are more suitable these days..
Thank you to all who made constructive posts.
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Hon...is called communism and you saw how that turned out...
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Bodecia: Thank you.
There was a time on CS when you could post a topic such as this, and have a really good, informative discussion.
That time, it seems, has passed.
The thoughts expressed in my OP are for discussion purposes; they do not purport to express any political views, they simply offer an opportunity for discussion and idea exchange.
Maybe the "Do you Screw on the First Date" threads are more suitable these days..
Thank you to all who made constructive posts.
But "class"-thinking has gone to far...The working class hardly exists,-it lost it´s jobs,-and been replaced by a non-working "class"...The glory days of the working man/woman are over,-they´re outsourced.There was a time on CS when you could post a topic such as this, and have a really good, informative discussion.
That time, it seems, has passed.
The thoughts expressed in my OP are for discussion purposes; they do not purport to express any political views, they simply offer an opportunity for discussion and idea exchange.
Maybe the "Do you Screw on the First Date" threads are more suitable these days..
Thank you to all who made constructive posts.
And those days will never come again.....West´s becoming an "underclass".....
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Bodecia: Thank you.
There was a time on CS when you could post a topic such as this, and have a really good, informative discussion.
That time, it seems, has passed.
The thoughts expressed in my OP are for discussion purposes; they do not purport to express any political views, they simply offer an opportunity for discussion and idea exchange.
Maybe the "Do you Screw on the First Date" threads are more suitable these days..
Thank you to all who made constructive posts.
But "class"-thinking has gone to far...The working class hardly exists,-it lost it´s jobs,-and been replaced by a non-working "class"...The glory days of the working man/woman are over,-they´re outsourced.There was a time on CS when you could post a topic such as this, and have a really good, informative discussion.
That time, it seems, has passed.
The thoughts expressed in my OP are for discussion purposes; they do not purport to express any political views, they simply offer an opportunity for discussion and idea exchange.
Maybe the "Do you Screw on the First Date" threads are more suitable these days..
Thank you to all who made constructive posts.
And those days will never come again.....West´s becoming an "underclass".....
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Bodecia: Blimey, thanks for your input!
It was meant as a discussion point.
It was meant as a discussion point.
And a good one it is...I was saying that its perception. I dont let things like that matter to me in my life. Therefore it doesnt bother me. I think that sort of thing has impact in your life if you let it. The less we accept outdated social concepts, the less meaning they have. So those genres like "social classes" will slowly die out in the world.
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I think the problem arises with the definition of working class. People with qualifications or who do not do manual labour do not regard themselves as working class. I think they're actually wrong because to me, if you need to work to live, you are working class!Some of these may be on benefits from time to time. Capitalism demands a bank of available labour.
I'll bet folk are getting upset already.
There's been a change in the ruling class too! Aristocracy now only exist for decorative purposes. The ruling classes are now the bankers and the multinationals. This is proven with the lack of responsibility or justice after the recent shananagans.
And then we have the lower class who are regarded as lazy by the other 2. They are permenantly on benefits! They have neither the drive nor the incentive to work and do not live within the same constraints as the others!
I'll bet folk are getting upset already.
There's been a change in the ruling class too! Aristocracy now only exist for decorative purposes. The ruling classes are now the bankers and the multinationals. This is proven with the lack of responsibility or justice after the recent shananagans.
And then we have the lower class who are regarded as lazy by the other 2. They are permenantly on benefits! They have neither the drive nor the incentive to work and do not live within the same constraints as the others!
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Aswina: felix, I am afraid... it was not a language barrier, I speak your native language and as well 3 other languages. "Social groups" is expession used by EU in Europe... class is not accepted any more in deeds and documents. And my playing with word and world... just easy example how is easy to play with words...
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AtwoZ: But "class"-thinking has gone to far...The working class hardly exists,-it lost it´s jobs,-and been replaced by a non-working "class"...The glory days of the working man/woman are over,-they´re outsourced.
And those days will never come again.....West´s becoming an "underclass".....
And those days will never come again.....West´s becoming an "underclass".....
but the original question is can a classless society exsit? do you think it can?
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felixis99: but the original question is can a classless society exsit? do you think it can?
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Bodecia: Does The Classless Society Really Exist? Can It Ever?
Classes have existed always and they will always be.
What are those classes based on?
Money
Education
Culture
etc....
Not there is not classless society, not even in the socialist nor comunnist countries.
Why would I want everyone to be equal in one class?
What I would want for this society to be is: everyone with their basic needs met and from there people work their way up to their goals.
I do not mind people who are better prepared than me with a better income, on the contrary I do applaude them (assuming their activities are legal).
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i suppoes it does.....for instance.....still waiting for the invit.....to the....royal .....wedding.....car,nt understand....the delay........
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There are still many people who come from very, very humble beginnings who achieve a higher level, or upper "class", as this thread is talking about. I just read a story about Mrs. Carl Dean (Dolly Parton). Her parents were literally penniless dirt farmers-and her mother really DID make the clothes out of hand-me-downs and rags. Between high school and meeting her husband, (a struggling blue collar worker), she lived in a run down duplex furnished out of Goodwill and Salvation Army, and borrowed friends' musical instruments until she could buy her own. She once spent a whole day in a laundromat just to get warm by the dryers. Read "Desiderata"--there is nothing new under the sun, and everywhere life is full of determined people full of confidence in themselves, the wonder and beauty of life, and the will to never give up. Giving up is easy,-- it takes courage and a healthy sense of the appreciation of life to attain goals and a sense of accomplishment--it isn't, and has never been, easy for most. Sure, some people are born with a silver spoon in their mouths, but "CLASS" is not about money. It's about character.
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Yes the Classless Society DOES Exist, Sad to say
and It seems to be getting Worst as the population Explodes to the highest level ever, Now it has almost become a Warzone...
and I have learned that no-one on this earth, or even Government, or Political groups cannot Solve all these problems, as many have tried without Success...
The Rich, The Oil Companys can never get enough of our money, they are going to make people kill for food if they keep going, and it is on the Daily News, that this is already Happening, Greed and Selfishness is Everwhere.
Where has Love and Integrity gone?
Finding Love is like finding a Piece of Gold in the Street,
Its nearly Co-existant...
Its almost to a time of Mandatory Helmets if you leave the House, You are in open Territory..
Just My opinion
and It seems to be getting Worst as the population Explodes to the highest level ever, Now it has almost become a Warzone...
and I have learned that no-one on this earth, or even Government, or Political groups cannot Solve all these problems, as many have tried without Success...
The Rich, The Oil Companys can never get enough of our money, they are going to make people kill for food if they keep going, and it is on the Daily News, that this is already Happening, Greed and Selfishness is Everwhere.
Where has Love and Integrity gone?
Finding Love is like finding a Piece of Gold in the Street,
Its nearly Co-existant...
Its almost to a time of Mandatory Helmets if you leave the House, You are in open Territory..
Just My opinion
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Bodecia: In this day and age, the idea of "Class" levels is considered something that belongs to the past, together with race discrimination and world poverty.
Of course, the latter two still exist, and sadly probably always will. I believe it is the same with the class system.
There are always going to be those who were born into a more priviliged world and whose family were considered "wealthy". There are those who are what they call "New Money", who to a certain degree replaced old-fashioned aristocracy, even in so-called "Republics".
There are also those who claim to denounce their upbringing, claim to be a "Person of the People" and fight for the common man.
However, ideas of "class" come in different guises; some are looked down upon because their spelling is not great, or their fashion sense is considered dubious, or their accent is not cut-glass.
Can humanity ever truely get to a point where we are all equal, are all classless, and no-one is considered on a higher ranking than anyone else?
Who judges others in this capacity more? Men or women? Or are they both equally judgemental?
I fear there will always be "Snobs"; whether they be literary, financial or otherwise.
People are nice and nasty in all classes.Filter the bad ones out and the good ones inn.Of course, the latter two still exist, and sadly probably always will. I believe it is the same with the class system.
There are always going to be those who were born into a more priviliged world and whose family were considered "wealthy". There are those who are what they call "New Money", who to a certain degree replaced old-fashioned aristocracy, even in so-called "Republics".
There are also those who claim to denounce their upbringing, claim to be a "Person of the People" and fight for the common man.
However, ideas of "class" come in different guises; some are looked down upon because their spelling is not great, or their fashion sense is considered dubious, or their accent is not cut-glass.
Can humanity ever truely get to a point where we are all equal, are all classless, and no-one is considered on a higher ranking than anyone else?
Who judges others in this capacity more? Men or women? Or are they both equally judgemental?
I fear there will always be "Snobs"; whether they be literary, financial or otherwise.
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mastic55: People are nice and nasty in all classes.Filter the bad ones out and the good ones inn.
Who decides what's classy....you?
People...please.
I won't be judged by anybody...only GOD CAN JUDGE ME.
And when its all said and dine,you won't be judged by what you do..but what YOU ARE.
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but to me these are still "classes" just a different way of having classes within your society
apologies ahead of time for any misunderstanding
felix, I am afraid... it was not a language barrier, I speak your native language and as well 3 other languages. "Social groups" is expession used by EU in Europe... class is not accepted any more in deeds and documents. And my playing with word and world... just easy example how is easy to play with words...