What reading appeals to you most? (138)

Aug 22, 2011 8:25 AM CST What reading appeals to you most?
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
By the way, I just got back from the university library (love those musty old shelves!) and came back with stacks of books on the actual craft of travel writing.

I managed to find a couple of books also by the queen of travel writing, Jan Morris. Boy, she can write. One is called 'Journeys', with the first chapter 'Over the Bridge', about her visit to Australia with a focus on Sydney. She wrote about the 'Kev effect'...yanno, the beer gut and generally gone-to-pot efect...laugh...I will post some passages as I go.
Aug 23, 2011 2:16 AM CST What reading appeals to you most?
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
daggyone: There's nothing uglier than Puglia.
Well anything but actually.
Connecting Singles online date turns into saucy romp through the Italian streets, arrested, thrown into the slammer for being unbelievably boring in the execution of the romp.


Have you been to the Valle D'Itria?....Going through the countryside, it's like being in a Tolkien novel. Just magical. I look around in sheer wonder and walking home from where the teeny bus drops me off, I feel like I'm in some fairytale happening before my eyes...If only I could package it for you all to see. I can only attempt to describe it in words and pictures to come.

cheers
Aug 23, 2011 10:13 AM CST What reading appeals to you most?
Kontikitact
KontikitactKontikitactsilkeborg, Central Jutland Denmark52 Threads 6 Polls 797 Posts
venere08: A continuous smorgasboard of (mostly) written inanity for the reading brain!


(I just gave you a tidbit more.. )
yep...it's that rainbow stuff again.!!!!!
Aug 24, 2011 3:15 PM CST What reading appeals to you most?
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
Kontikitact: yep...it's that rainbow stuff again.!!!!!


Is there a pot of gold at the end of that rainbow?grin
Aug 24, 2011 3:27 PM CST What reading appeals to you most?
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
A couple of quotes from travel writer, Jan Morris' book 'Journeys', from the chapter 'Australian Journeys'...

"By the time I reached Alexandria Park Aboriginal Day seemed to have fizzled out altogether, and all I found was a sall huddle of dark-skinned people around an open bonfire, surrounded by litter on the edge of the green. They greeted me with a wan concern....

I did feel sorry for them. They were like last wasted survivors from some primeval holocaust, whose memories of their own civilisation were eons ago expunged. Did they have a Sydney all their own, I wondered, long ago near the beginnings of time? Did their flag fly braver then?"


She also wrote that when she first wrote an article about Sydney, it was five years before the last of furious letters to her stopped.
Aug 24, 2011 3:29 PM CST What reading appeals to you most?
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
'small huddle'
Aug 25, 2011 5:43 AM CST What reading appeals to you most?
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,959 Posts
venere08: A couple of quotes from travel writer, Jan Morris' book 'Journeys', from the chapter 'Australian Journeys'...

"By the time I reached Alexandria Park Aboriginal Day seemed to have fizzled out altogether, and all I found was a sall huddle of dark-skinned people around an open bonfire, surrounded by litter on the edge of the green. They greeted me with a wan concern....

I did feel sorry for them. They were like last wasted survivors from some primeval holocaust, whose memories of their own civilisation were eons ago expunged. Did they have a Sydney all their own, I wondered, long ago near the beginnings of time? Did their flag fly braver then?"She also wrote that when she first wrote an article about Sydney, it was five years before the last of furious letters to her stopped.


Patronising to say the least,it must have taken at least five years to remove her foot from her mouth uh oh
Aug 25, 2011 5:52 AM CST What reading appeals to you most?
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
venere08
If you are going to write about your stolen (?) generation, I would suggest you read some of Sally Morgan's books to get more of an understanding of the culture here at that time. Her books are not the hysterical "they stole me, I want compensation" type. She relates what happened with some of her family and the conflicts which were happening in both cultures. Yes, there were many wrongs committed but most thought they were doing the right thing after seeing the problems that had occured in other countries.

Many, many people have relocated by choice or no choice. They have wonderful memories of what they left behind. My uncle left Austria in 1946 and returned 20 years later. "It is a beautiful country, it has changed so much,not what I remember, Australia is my home now."

My first wife left England when she was 8, sister 10 and brother 4. Hated Australia because she had an accent. Sister now lives in England, brother in USA after 10 years in England (English wife) but ex wants Australai as home.

So write your book on what you remember, what you think you missed out on (especially family), and how you see it today. As we age, the magic we remember is not the same magic that exists today. And this is why it is so important to write about it.
Aug 25, 2011 7:42 AM CST What reading appeals to you most?
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
wash2u: venere08
If you are going to write about your stolen (?) generation, I would suggest you read some of Sally Morgan's books to get more of an understanding of the culture here at that time. Her books are not the hysterical "they stole me, I want compensation" type. She relates what happened with some of her family and the conflicts which were happening in both cultures. Yes, there were many wrongs committed but most thought they were doing the right thing after seeing the problems that had occured in other countries.

Many, many people have relocated by choice or no choice. They have wonderful memories of what they left behind. My uncle left Austria in 1946 and returned 20 years later. "It is a beautiful country, it has changed so much,not what I remember, Australia is my home now."

My first wife left England when she was 8, sister 10 and brother 4. Hated Australia because she had an accent. Sister now lives in England, brother in USA after 10 years in England (English wife) but ex wants Australai as home.

So write your book on what you remember, what you think you missed out on (especially family), and how you see it today. As we age, the magic we remember is not the same magic that exists today. And this is why it is so important to write about it.


Hi wash2,

that's the thing...I remember absolutely nothing of my life as a 4yr old in Italy. Earliest memories are only of brief visions of me jumping up and down in our cruise ship cabin, laughing and playing. Nothing of the luxury surroundings, swimming pools, fancy dining rooms...why could I not have been older and enjoy it.mumbling ...oh, and a hazy vision of these tiny boats down below when we stopped at what was the suez canal, where my mother bought me a small leather camel...lost it and still miss it. Strange the memories we retain.
But I have been back umpteen times since 1975, which is what now leaves me in such conflict.
Aug 25, 2011 7:44 AM CST What reading appeals to you most?
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
serene56: Patronising to say the least,it must have taken at least five years to remove her foot from her mouth


I think she genuinely did feel sorry for them. So do I and not in any patronising way. They have lost much. On the other hand, some have embraced the reality and gained much.
Aug 25, 2011 8:17 AM CST What reading appeals to you most?
Martia
MartiaMartiabenalla, Victoria Australia141 Threads 1 Polls 2,888 Posts
venere08: Hi wash2,

that's the thing...I remember absolutely nothing of my life as a 4yr old in Italy. Earliest memories are only of brief visions of me jumping up and down in our cruise ship cabin, laughing and playing. Nothing of the luxury surroundings, swimming pools, fancy dining rooms...why could I not have been older and enjoy it. ...oh, and a hazy vision of these tiny boats down below when we stopped at what was the suez canal, where my mother bought me a small leather camel...lost it and still miss it. Strange the memories we retain.
But I have been back umpteen times since 1975, which is what now leaves me in such conflict.


Funny you should bring up the Camel as it jogged my memory.

Just about when my husband myself and baby daughter were about to board the plane to emigrate to Aus all those years ago, my mother in law pressed a small silver horse into my hand and said this has been my lucky charm for 50 years I want you to have it.

About 5 years later thats when we got into Breeding Racing and Training Thoroughbred Race Horses and for the next 30 years or so that was our life.

Lost that lucky charm about 2 years before my daughter got injured in that horse race.doh
Aug 25, 2011 8:27 AM CST What reading appeals to you most?
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
Martia: Funny you should bring up the Camel as it jogged my memory.

Just about when my husband myself and baby daughter were about to board the plane to emigrate to Aus all those years ago, my mother in law pressed a small silver horse into my hand and said this has been my lucky charm for 50 years I want you to have it.

About 5 years later thats when we got into Breeding Racing and Training Thoroughbred Race Horses and for the next 30 years or so that was our life.

Lost that lucky charm about 2 years before my daughter got injured in that horse race.


What an amazing story, Martia. And what a wonderful mother in law you left behind all those years ago.

My plumber in Italy has a few of these gorgeous creatures, Murgese horses I am told.


I hope to go see them when I am next there. Close to my place, is a government conservation forest where the public can go see them and I think also have riding lessons. I would love to do that one day. I think the plumber also has one of the protected donkeys.


bouquet
Aug 25, 2011 10:18 AM CST What reading appeals to you most?
Martia
MartiaMartiabenalla, Victoria Australia141 Threads 1 Polls 2,888 Posts
venere08: What an amazing story, Martia. And what a wonderful mother in law you left behind all those years ago.

My plumber in Italy has a few of these gorgeous creatures, Murgese horses I am told.


I hope to go see them when I am next there. Close to my place, is a government conservation forest where the public can go see them and I think also have riding lessons. I would love to do that one day. I think the plumber also has one of the protected donkeys.


Looks to have the body of the Morgan Horse and the Roman Nose of a Clydsdale.
There are so many beautiful breeds of horses including the Australia's own Waler.... a wonderful tough horse( that was sent overseas in the 1840's for the Army.)Just Googled that.

They were becoming quite rare! I hope that they will resurrect this breed to far greater numbers as they are the perfect riding horse with a great temperament.

Everyone went silly first on the Arabian then the Warm blood but had probs with Temperament
in the Arabian and soundness issues with the Warm blood.

Alas like everything Horses are victims of fashion Also after the film101 Dalmatians heaps of people acquired that breed! a couple of years down the track the dogs homes were full of them as they were a lively strong breed who needed plenty of exercise with a firm hand,and many had no idea how to cope with them.

I believe that with dogs People should be made to get a permit to prove they are capable of looking after them if they have not owned one before.

Sorry .... went off the track a bit there.






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Aug 25, 2011 7:15 PM CST What reading appeals to you most?
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
Martia: Looks to have the body of the Morgan Horse and the Roman Nose of a Clydsdale.
There are so many beautiful breeds of horses including the Australia's own Waler.... a wonderful tough horse( that was sent overseas in the 1840's for the Army.)Just Googled that.

They were becoming quite rare! I hope that they will resurrect this breed to far greater numbers as they are the perfect riding horse with a great temperament.

Everyone went silly first on the Arabian then the Warm blood but had probs with Temperament
in the Arabian and soundness issues with the Warm blood.

Alas like everything Horses are victims of fashion Also after the film101 Dalmatians heaps of people acquired that breed! a couple of years down the track the dogs homes were full of them as they were a lively strong breed who needed plenty of exercise with a firm hand,and many had no idea how to cope with them.

I believe that with dogs People should be made to get a permit to prove they are capable of looking after them if they have not owned one before.

Sorry .... went off the track a bit there.


A horse with good temperament is want you need for riding, especially the less experienced person. The Aussie horse you described sounds like a perfect breed. Hopefully someone might address that again. I think breeders tend to go for what will sell, what is popular, or what remains popular. Though it's pretty circular, if the option isn't available to the public, then they can't make that choice.

I agree with you about some people being guided by fashion of the breed at the time. And ditto about dog ownership. Just noting the number of abandoned dogs at shelters is very telling. I have had 4 out of 5 of my dogs from Animal Welfer. One was an 8yr old red heeler, which, sure as eggs would have been put to sleep had I not adopted her. She turned out to be a treasure and the easiest dog to train I have ever had. Everyone who met her, adored her, including young children. I trained her out of nipping ankles in minutes. And she took to the 'off' command like a pro. RIP Ambersad flower
(I went off track too. Going off the beaten track is fun for the word traveller.grin

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Aug 25, 2011 7:42 PM CST What reading appeals to you most?
Martia
MartiaMartiabenalla, Victoria Australia141 Threads 1 Polls 2,888 Posts
venere08: A horse with good temperament is want you need for riding, especially the less experienced person. The Aussie horse you described sounds like a perfect breed. Hopefully someone might address that again. I think breeders tend to go for what will sell, what is popular, or what remains popular. Though it's pretty circular, if the option isn't available to the public, then they can't make that choice.

I agree with you about some people being guided by fashion of the breed at the time. And ditto about dog ownership. Just noting the number of abandoned dogs at shelters is very telling. I have had 4 out of 5 of my dogs from Animal Welfer. One was an 8yr old red heeler, which, sure as eggs would have been put to sleep had I not adopted her. She turned out to be a treasure and the easiest dog to train I have ever had. Everyone who met her, adored her, including young children. I trained her out of nipping ankles in minutes. And she took to the 'off' command like a pro. RIP Amber
(I went off track too. Going off the beaten track is fun for the word traveller.


You' my darling are one of the good guys.
hug hug teddybear
Aug 26, 2011 10:52 PM CST What reading appeals to you most?
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
venere08: A couple of quotes from travel writer, Jan Morris' book 'Journeys', from the chapter 'Australian Journeys'...

"By the time I reached Alexandria Park Aboriginal Day seemed to have fizzled out altogether, and all I found was a sall huddle of dark-skinned people around an open bonfire, surrounded by litter on the edge of the green. They greeted me with a wan concern....

I did feel sorry for them. They were like last wasted survivors from some primeval holocaust, whose memories of their own civilisation were eons ago expunged. Did they have a Sydney all their own, I wondered, long ago near the beginnings of time? Did their flag fly braver then?"She also wrote that when she first wrote an article about Sydney, it was five years before the last of furious letters to her stopped.


“the last train home” had a great impact on me.
Aug 27, 2011 7:53 AM CST What reading appeals to you most?
venere08
venere08venere08Puglia and Autumn, South Australia Australia121 Threads 2 Polls 9,996 Posts
AgentAjax: “the last train home” had a great impact on me.


Now you have me curious...How??

It's quite something when words on a page can do that to you.
Aug 27, 2011 4:44 PM CST What reading appeals to you most?
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
venere08: Now you have me curious...How??

It's quite something when words on a page can do that to you.


oops sorry, I went slightly off topic. I was talking about a movie/documentary.

Aug 27, 2011 6:20 PM CST What reading appeals to you most?
robplum
robplumrobplumEnsay, Victoria Australia107 Threads 1 Polls 12,031 Posts
Since the beginning of time, we have sought to find happiness and escape from our problems by changing our world...

the cause and solution for our happiness and sorrow comes from our own minds.

Three things are necessary for the salvation of man: to know what he ought to believe: to know what he ought to desire; and to know what he ought to do.

Aug 27, 2011 6:59 PM CST What reading appeals to you most?
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
robplum: Since the beginning of time, we have sought to find happiness and escape from our problems by changing our world...

the cause and solution for our happiness and sorrow comes from our own minds.

Three things are necessary for the salvation of man: to know what he ought to believe: to know what he ought to desire; and to know what he ought to do.



While many people believe the problems stems from various areas, such as media, games, movies, alcohol, drugs…etc I however feel the problems is with having too much. The conscious rises after every war and it is when people have very little that they learn about friendships and sharing.
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