US troops urinate on the dead bodies of taliban soldiers (473)
Conrad73: and those Marines will get punished,which is more than one can say when the Taliban commits atrocities to intimidate the Populace.
I haven't seen any Taliban here in France.
Nor have I heard of them being very active in the US.
Seems like mostly they are in their own country fighting against foreign invaders (and not really even doing much of that).
I think most people would consider them to be freedom fighters.
And seeing that no nation on earth supports them, where do you imagine they get the arms, explosives, food, supplies, etc etc etc to keep up an insurgency year after year?
It's all a scam.
The US uses the Taliban to justify the occupation.
The Taliban are just a new twist on the Contras.
A CIA run mercenary army pursuing US interests.
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The US and the Talaban used to be such good friends when they both had communism to fight.
How times have changed......
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Yeah,sadly,a bad behaviour...But,what about beheaded Westerners?Seems you missed that one....
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Nokia77: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0qeJqC5dFA&feature=fvst
The US and the Talaban used to be such good friends when they both had communism to fight.
How times have changed......
what Taliban?The US and the Talaban used to be such good friends when they both had communism to fight.
How times have changed......
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My mistake, its the Mujaheddin and not the Talaban, LOL. I figure their roughly the same bunch anyway, just a different decade perhaps?
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And that would be?....
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RayfromUSA: Notice the wheelbarrow in the video.
No sign of arms.
No wounded Americans.
My guess is that the US soldiers just designated some villagers as "enemy combatants" to get their required body count.
Let's not forget that the "Taliban" are Afghanis living in their own land.
It was the US that formed, armed, equipped and fed the Taliban calling them the "soldiers of God" when they fought the Russians.
It was also the US that put them into power as the "legitimate" government of Afghanistan when the Russians were defeated.
But then the US wanted to do exactly what the Russians had done, invade Afghanistan and pipe oil from the Caspian Sea oilfields. And the only way to do that was to pretend that the Taliban were evil.
In truth, even now, the Taliban work for the west. Their job is to be the enemy. They are supplied by British helicopters.
I know this because I met a British helicopter pilot who personally delivered supplies to the Taliban on several occasions.
Once in a while they are ordered to attack a village and kill some people, just to keep up appearances. And once in a while they send a couple of flunkies to set bombs or fire on western forces, also to keep up appearances.
After all, without any enemies and a few casualties the US wouldn't have much excuse to be occupying Afghanistan, would it?
Concerning this video, I suspect that like the Abu Graib photos, it was made intentionally to turn US public opinion against the war.
The big push at the moment is to stir up militant opposition against the government in the US. That will permit the imposition of martial law.
The anti-war movement will be the core of the desired militant opposition.
No sign of arms.
No wounded Americans.
My guess is that the US soldiers just designated some villagers as "enemy combatants" to get their required body count.
Let's not forget that the "Taliban" are Afghanis living in their own land.
It was the US that formed, armed, equipped and fed the Taliban calling them the "soldiers of God" when they fought the Russians.
It was also the US that put them into power as the "legitimate" government of Afghanistan when the Russians were defeated.
But then the US wanted to do exactly what the Russians had done, invade Afghanistan and pipe oil from the Caspian Sea oilfields. And the only way to do that was to pretend that the Taliban were evil.
In truth, even now, the Taliban work for the west. Their job is to be the enemy. They are supplied by British helicopters.
I know this because I met a British helicopter pilot who personally delivered supplies to the Taliban on several occasions.
Once in a while they are ordered to attack a village and kill some people, just to keep up appearances. And once in a while they send a couple of flunkies to set bombs or fire on western forces, also to keep up appearances.
After all, without any enemies and a few casualties the US wouldn't have much excuse to be occupying Afghanistan, would it?
Concerning this video, I suspect that like the Abu Graib photos, it was made intentionally to turn US public opinion against the war.
The big push at the moment is to stir up militant opposition against the government in the US. That will permit the imposition of martial law.
The anti-war movement will be the core of the desired militant opposition.
I used to enjoy reading your stuff Ray but you are really out there lately, especially on this one. 000oooo
Wh do you even bother and acknowledge a relation with the U.S.A. ? 
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I guess the old adage, "it's better to be pissed off than pissed on" doesn't apply? 
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galrads: yeah, well, I prefer my dog's motto..... if you can't eat it or play with it, piss on it and walk away.
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Straightdown: Not a nice thing to do but they were dead. It would have been worse if they were POW's but I think its been blown out of proportion....Far worse things are happening in these wars.
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It amazes me that in the 3,000 yrs...(+ or - a millenia or two)...since the very first war was waged, that mankind has not learned a single thing. Mankind likes to play war just as long as they don't have to die playing it.
Here's a noval idea...the next time a war comes to your neighborhood, just say, "Fork it!" and everybody stay home. Why not try to find something good about you neighbor and build on that.
Here's a noval idea...the next time a war comes to your neighborhood, just say, "Fork it!" and everybody stay home. Why not try to find something good about you neighbor and build on that.
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mnowsa: So, the award goes to the US army establishment for being the sickest-minded and the most digusting human beings....the human beings on which our fellow fanatic, ultra-conservative, warhawks rely to bring democracy, freedom and liberty in this world. congratulations!
"the award goes to the US army establishment"
Obviously you did not even look at the article that you posted.
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Conrad73: From another Site.
Some of you seem to place this and other events completely out of context. The US soldiers are trained professionals who abide by the generally accepted rules of war such as the Geneva Convention. If an enemy soldier in uniform surrenders, they are taken as prisoner and treated with respect.
Terrorists are not uniformed soldiers. They mix with the population and murder, intimidate, and kill with subversion. They train small children to act as suicide bombers. They openly cut off heads of innocents and dance at the news of death of any westerner.
The marine snipers kill the worst of the worst. They are doing the world a favor by helping rid the world of terrorists. They do not indiscriminately kill members of the local population and then piss on their bodies. They kill the ones who are killing the local population.
Mixing apples and oranges makes for a poor argument. Those berating the marines for acting in this manner should reflect on what the terrorists do to marines and others when they get a chance.
War is hell.
In WWII the Germans generally did abide by the Geneva Convention regarding uniformed soldiers (other atrocities aside) but the Japanese did not. Japan did not sign the treaty.
This event is trivial in the overall horror of war.
Some of you seem to place this and other events completely out of context. The US soldiers are trained professionals who abide by the generally accepted rules of war such as the Geneva Convention. If an enemy soldier in uniform surrenders, they are taken as prisoner and treated with respect.
Terrorists are not uniformed soldiers. They mix with the population and murder, intimidate, and kill with subversion. They train small children to act as suicide bombers. They openly cut off heads of innocents and dance at the news of death of any westerner.
The marine snipers kill the worst of the worst. They are doing the world a favor by helping rid the world of terrorists. They do not indiscriminately kill members of the local population and then piss on their bodies. They kill the ones who are killing the local population.
Mixing apples and oranges makes for a poor argument. Those berating the marines for acting in this manner should reflect on what the terrorists do to marines and others when they get a chance.
War is hell.
In WWII the Germans generally did abide by the Geneva Convention regarding uniformed soldiers (other atrocities aside) but the Japanese did not. Japan did not sign the treaty.
This event is trivial in the overall horror of war.
Conrad; you have made the most sensible post on this thread.
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its a great way to play mind games with your enemy ... with luck they will forget to hide or keep their heads down and make them selve known and make it easy for our boys to shot them dead ......yay
and if you could stop making bullets for ak 47s then they wont be able to kill your brothers
and if you could stop making bullets for ak 47s then they wont be able to kill your brothers
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virgosingle: its a great way to play mind games with your enemy ... with luck they will forget to hide or keep their heads down and make them selve known and make it easy for our boys to shot them dead ......yay
and if you could stop making bullets for ak 47s then they wont be able to kill your brothers
and if you could stop making bullets for ak 47s then they wont be able to kill your brothers
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The Taliban are dogs who hang women and children. Personally, I don't care what the troops do to them.
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Boban1: get a shrink...
I suspect that you have not served in an army, or studied history. Everything I suggested has already been done by:
1. The Romans.
2. The British.
3. The Germans.
4. The Americans.
I cannot claim originality for anything I suggested.
It comes down to do you want to win, or not?
If you saw that these heroes of Islam did to the bodies of our dead you would not be so precious.
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Conrad73: Policy didn't work too well in Vietnam,did it?Displacing Villages and Hamlets!
Neither did the "Remedies" you suggest for the Waffen-SS!
Neither did the "Remedies" you suggest for the Waffen-SS!
It did not work in Vietnam because the Americans were not allowed to fight to win.
The strategy of clearing out all friendlies and then shooting everything that moved was use by the British in Malaya and it worked. It was the only place in Indochina that communism was defeated in the field.
You might also be interested in reading about how US general Jack Pershing dealt with Islamic terrorists in The Philippines a century ago. It worked.
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Carl96190: I suspect that you have not served in an army, or studied history. Everything I suggested has already been done by:
1. The Romans.
2. The British.
3. The Germans.
4. The Americans.
I cannot claim originality for anything I suggested.
It comes down to do you want to win, or not?
If you saw that these heroes of Islam did to the bodies of our dead you would not be so precious.
1. The Romans.
2. The British.
3. The Germans.
4. The Americans.
I cannot claim originality for anything I suggested.
It comes down to do you want to win, or not?
If you saw that these heroes of Islam did to the bodies of our dead you would not be so precious.
I refuse to be a servant of the big brother and protect the interest of the elite class ...now if I may quote Mark Littman
At the Nuremberg trials, the principles of international law identified by the tribunal and subsequently accepted unanimously by the General Assembly of the United Nations included that the planning, preparation or initiation of a war contrary to the terms of an international treaty was "a crime against peace". The tribunal further stated "that to initiate a war of aggression... is not only an international crime, it is the supreme international crime".
Supreme International Crime
The United States of America is guilty of "the supreme international crime" (in Iraq and Afghanistan and also previously in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia), and this will be remembered by the rest of the world for many generations to come...
If you want to avoid , as you called them " heroes of Islam"... stay in your own country
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No sign of arms.
No wounded Americans.
My guess is that the US soldiers just designated some villagers as "enemy combatants" to get their required body count.
Let's not forget that the "Taliban" are Afghanis living in their own land.
It was the US that formed, armed, equipped and fed the Taliban calling them the "soldiers of God" when they fought the Russians.
It was also the US that put them into power as the "legitimate" government of Afghanistan when the Russians were defeated.
But then the US wanted to do exactly what the Russians had done, invade Afghanistan and pipe oil from the Caspian Sea oilfields. And the only way to do that was to pretend that the Taliban were evil.
In truth, even now, the Taliban work for the west. Their job is to be the enemy. They are supplied by British helicopters.
I know this because I met a British helicopter pilot who personally delivered supplies to the Taliban on several occasions.
Once in a while they are ordered to attack a village and kill some people, just to keep up appearances. And once in a while they send a couple of flunkies to set bombs or fire on western forces, also to keep up appearances.
After all, without any enemies and a few casualties the US wouldn't have much excuse to be occupying Afghanistan, would it?
Concerning this video, I suspect that like the Abu Graib photos, it was made intentionally to turn US public opinion against the war.
The big push at the moment is to stir up militant opposition against the government in the US. That will permit the imposition of martial law.
The anti-war movement will be the core of the desired militant opposition.