Terrorism - the definition ( Archived) (108)

Nope........Go look for it yourself.



You have misquoted me. Please amend and rectify.
I want the guy locked up for life as I explained in my thread yesterday but you obfuscate as usual. He is being charged with terrorism. Take it up with the Norwegian Gov
No global intent ????? You are going by a definition you wish it to be as opposed to what it is. Delusional much ?



Your OP is what people want it to be as opposed to the actual definition. Just because you believe it does not make it so. Sorry to have to break that to you



You have consistently stated you go by the definition the FBI use. Its in the locked thread yesterday for anyone to read. And now you deny it. Sad.




No I did not but you have a great way to twist things to suit your futile argument.



Again no I didn't and you stating that I did is a false representation of the facts. Its there for all to read. But you altering facts is nothing new to pursue your agenda.
It was not my definition but the Oxford English Dictionary. If you have a problem with their definition please contact them.

Your truth has been shown to be completely incorrect here and how anyone can claim that Brievek is not a terrorist beggars belief. It smacks of fear and prejudice.
White people can be terrorists too.

I think a terrorist is any person, group or Government at a particular time who use killing or the threat of death to further their national or strategic political objectives, where their human rights or ethnic expression are or have not been militarily stifled.

There are plenty of innocent people who have been terrorised by Governments down the years.

Awhile back ago there was a thread that finally ended up for me doing a lot of digging up on the definition on this word. It seems that depending on what country you are going to be using it in the definition changes, I was amazed how much there is on the subject of the definition. There was/is a definition for terrorism recognized by different parts of the government and again who is using the word in their documents or discussions. The one thing that seemed to be confusing was drawing a conclusion ourselves personally on if it caused terror than it was terrorism. That just did not mean the word was being used correctly, It also does not lesson any terror someone saw or felt it just did not meet the criteria and the word was being used loosely in some cases.

Very well said. Terrorism has many kinds. Active and Passive both. State Owned Terrorism is the new game for the world now. At one hand, terror organisations kill people. The other hand some rougue nations take selfproclaim a false fight, invade countries, and kill innocent people. Both are the same in my book.

Here is what I had looked up a few months back.


#1
"Ethnic separatist violence in the 1930s provoked the League of Nations, formed after World War I to encourage world stability and peace, to define terrorism for the first time, as:

All criminal acts directed against a State and intended or calculated to create a state of terror in the minds of particular persons or a group of persons or the general public."

#2 The Department of Defense Dictionary of Military Terms defines terrorism as:

"The calculated use of unlawful violence or threat of unlawful violence to inculcate fear; intended to coerce or to intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political, religious, or ideological."

#3 Definition of Terrorism under U.S. Law
""United States Law Code – the law that governs the entire country – contains a definition of terrorism embedded in its requirement that Annual Country reports on Terrorism be submitted by the Secretary of State to Congress every year. (From U.S. Code Title 22, Ch.38, Para. 2656f(d)

(d) Definitions
As used in this section—
(1) the term “international terrorism” means terrorism involving citizens or the territory of more than 1 country;
(2) the term “terrorism” means premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents;
(3) the term “terrorist group” means any group, or which has significant subgroups which practice, international terrorism;
(4) the terms “territory” and “territory of the country” mean the land, waters, and airspace of the country; and
(5) the terms “terrorist sanctuary” and “sanctuary” mean an area in the territory of the country—
(A) that is used by a terrorist or terrorist organization—
(i) to carry out terrorist activities, including training, fundraising, financing, and recruitment; or
(ii) as a transit point; and
(B) the government of which expressly consents to, or with knowledge, allows, tolerates, or disregards such use of its territory and is not subject to a determination under—
(i) section 2405(j)(1)(A) of the Appendix to title 50;
(ii) section 2371 (a) of this title; or
(iii) section 2780 (d) of this title.""

#4 FBI Definition of Terrorism
The FBI defines terrorism as:

"The unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a Government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives."


I suppose though obvious I will throw in here that these definitions are as labeled and to their respective areas, there are more that pertain to other governments as well...I hope this helps give some clarity.
Cheers.

Interesting Niko, thanks.

I don't understand the nuances of why the FBI would have a seperate definition to the US Government's definition.

I think that some time ago they must have had their own disagreements,,,maybe they had a forum,,,LOL.. there was a lot more as well. But you know how they like to make things more complicated....and then the legalities if using it in the courts.

Seem's like the tail wagging the dog to me.