What will cause the fall of USA? (454)
Migsycandelaria quezon, Calabarzon Philippines16 Threads 1,632 PostsLets wait and see
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Dated but still Oh so very pertinent.
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Leo_7: We know that many empires and powerfull countries has fallen or dissapeard on Earth through the history.Today USA is claming to be the most powerfull country in the world.So that might cause the fall.So what would the cause of that?
Natural disasters?
foreign policy ?
internal problems?
its double standarts ?
religious wars?
asteroids?
alien invasion or what?
Tell us ur opinion.
PS.I dont wish any country falling and people suffer .This is just a thread for some debate.
Natural disasters?
foreign policy ?
internal problems?
its double standarts ?
religious wars?
asteroids?
alien invasion or what?
Tell us ur opinion.
PS.I dont wish any country falling and people suffer .This is just a thread for some debate.
well I don't think the USA is falling though I do not deny there are those who would like to see that, it's not happening
if the united states falls or becomes less influential as a nation, it will not be because of any outside forces, it will be because of a breakdown in the traditional values that helped to build our country - a slow erosion of family connectedness and a loss of sense that America, thouigh not perfect, is an ethical light post in terms of human & civil rights, in terms of equality, in terms of hard work and elbow grease
our country has remained strong by hard work and a sincere belief in the power of democracy to enable human and civil rights
we cannot veer from that course - and I do not think we have in. Americans have always suceeded in the past by banding together for a single purpose - to protect our freedoms and way of life (and the freedom to choose our way of life). We still do that. American resolve is reknowned
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Migsy: Lets wait and see
perhaps our downfall will be the desire to emmigrate to south asian Islands and live life strolling south pacific beaches I can think of worse ways to go....
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aarjon172: What would cause the america too fall
Ok americans not understanding or adhering too the Constitution of the USA, Believeing in this phrase hook line and sinker, "Im from government and im here too help you" in other words expecting government sugar daddy too bail you out of an jam!.
Not holding politicians accountable when they break the law and thrown in jail. Allowing communist and or national socialists to dictate policy ie write laws overthrowing us day by day, law by law and ignoring the consequences of these actions regardless of what party did the sinister dirty deed! and surrendering the USofA to a global governace body like the UN instead of keeping us the good ole USofA.
Believing everything that the TV mis-informs or informs about and acting like sheeople by not investigagting a matter further! and not respecting life, liberty, and the freedom to pursue goals so long as they do not cause an injury lawfully and physically. Not respecting our borders and enforcing those laws and allowing those who are use too government handouts, from their perspective country( is clueless about those numbers on the paycheck that reduce the monies they take home)yeah that would do us in absolutely!
Freedom is not free
aaron172
Ok americans not understanding or adhering too the Constitution of the USA, Believeing in this phrase hook line and sinker, "Im from government and im here too help you" in other words expecting government sugar daddy too bail you out of an jam!.
Not holding politicians accountable when they break the law and thrown in jail. Allowing communist and or national socialists to dictate policy ie write laws overthrowing us day by day, law by law and ignoring the consequences of these actions regardless of what party did the sinister dirty deed! and surrendering the USofA to a global governace body like the UN instead of keeping us the good ole USofA.
Believing everything that the TV mis-informs or informs about and acting like sheeople by not investigagting a matter further! and not respecting life, liberty, and the freedom to pursue goals so long as they do not cause an injury lawfully and physically. Not respecting our borders and enforcing those laws and allowing those who are use too government handouts, from their perspective country( is clueless about those numbers on the paycheck that reduce the monies they take home)yeah that would do us in absolutely!
Freedom is not free
aaron172
I agree in the most. I do think on an international forum it is important though to pay distinctive homage to the many countless contributions that immigrants and native peoples made to this country both economically and culturally to give us the very diverse heritage AND valuable global ties that we now benefit from. Almost every one in America has come from somewhere else and even native americans prolly have at least 1 family member who immigrated.
my people came from Scotland, Germany, Wales, Ireland and Spain. Legal immigration will, IMO, remain welcome here and in fact built this nation - immgrants with their bare hands, from China and Ireland and Wales built railroads and the coal mines, etc.
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Sorry but am I the only one that doesn't get this? Fall from where? What empire? OK till recently they did pretty well financially since WW2. But they've certainly never admitted to invading anywhere with the intention of running or occupying it. They have no territories outside their own borders save for Alaska, the American Virgin Islands and Hawai. The rest they claim to be liberating.
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1Bell4truth: Our fall comes after our summer. Some refer to it as autumn.
I think by 'some' you mean most of the western world.
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felixis99: well I don't think the USA is falling though I do not deny there are those who would like to see that, it's not happening
if the united states falls or becomes less influential as a nation, it will not be because of any outside forces, it will be because of a breakdown in the traditional values that helped to build our country - a slow erosion of family connectedness and a loss of sense that America, thouigh not perfect, is an ethical light post in terms of human & civil rights, in terms of equality, in terms of hard work and elbow grease
our country has remained strong by hard work and a sincere belief in the power of democracy to enable human and civil rights
we cannot veer from that course - and I do not think we have in. Americans have always suceeded in the past by banding together for a single purpose - to protect our freedoms and way of life (and the freedom to choose our way of life). We still do that. American resolve is reknowned
if the united states falls or becomes less influential as a nation, it will not be because of any outside forces, it will be because of a breakdown in the traditional values that helped to build our country - a slow erosion of family connectedness and a loss of sense that America, thouigh not perfect, is an ethical light post in terms of human & civil rights, in terms of equality, in terms of hard work and elbow grease
our country has remained strong by hard work and a sincere belief in the power of democracy to enable human and civil rights
we cannot veer from that course - and I do not think we have in. Americans have always suceeded in the past by banding together for a single purpose - to protect our freedoms and way of life (and the freedom to choose our way of life). We still do that. American resolve is reknowned
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More than 200 years ago, Benjamin Franklin and George Washington predicted how the United States would be destroyed.
Benjamin Franklin:
"I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The menace, gentlemen, is the Jews. In whatever country Jews have settled in any great numbers, they have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is founded by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within a state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal.
"For over 1700 years the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate in that they have been exiled from their homeland, they call Palestine. But, Gentlemen, should the world today give it to them in fee simple, they would at once find some cogent reason for not returning. Why? Because they are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot live only among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other people not of their race.
"If you do not exclude them from these United States, in this Constitution in less than 200 years they will have swarmed in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land, and change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives, our substance and jeopardized our liberty.
"If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them sustenance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, Gentlemen, if you do not exclude the Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your graves. Jews, Gentlemen, are Asiatics; let them be born where they will, or how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never be otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American's, and will not even though they live among us ten generations. A leopard cannot change its spots.
"Jews are Asiatics, they are a menace to this country if permitted entrance and should be excluded by this Constitution."
George Washington:
"They [the Jews] work more effectively against us, than the enemy's armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties and the great cause we are engaged in... It is much to be lamented that each state, long ago, has not hunted them down as pest to society and the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America."
Benjamin Franklin:
"I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The menace, gentlemen, is the Jews. In whatever country Jews have settled in any great numbers, they have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is founded by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within a state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal.
"For over 1700 years the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate in that they have been exiled from their homeland, they call Palestine. But, Gentlemen, should the world today give it to them in fee simple, they would at once find some cogent reason for not returning. Why? Because they are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot live only among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other people not of their race.
"If you do not exclude them from these United States, in this Constitution in less than 200 years they will have swarmed in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land, and change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives, our substance and jeopardized our liberty.
"If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them sustenance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, Gentlemen, if you do not exclude the Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your graves. Jews, Gentlemen, are Asiatics; let them be born where they will, or how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never be otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American's, and will not even though they live among us ten generations. A leopard cannot change its spots.
"Jews are Asiatics, they are a menace to this country if permitted entrance and should be excluded by this Constitution."
George Washington:
"They [the Jews] work more effectively against us, than the enemy's armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties and the great cause we are engaged in... It is much to be lamented that each state, long ago, has not hunted them down as pest to society and the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America."
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Carl96190: More than 200 years ago, Benjamin Franklin and George Washington predicted how the United States would be destroyed.
Benjamin Franklin:
"I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The menace, gentlemen, is the Jews. In whatever country Jews have settled in any great numbers, they have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is founded by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within a state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal.
"For over 1700 years the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate in that they have been exiled from their homeland, they call Palestine. But, Gentlemen, should the world today give it to them in fee simple, they would at once find some cogent reason for not returning. Why? Because they are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot live only among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other people not of their race.
"If you do not exclude them from these United States, in this Constitution in less than 200 years they will have swarmed in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land, and change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives, our substance and jeopardized our liberty.
"If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them sustenance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, Gentlemen, if you do not exclude the Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your graves. Jews, Gentlemen, are Asiatics; let them be born where they will, or how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never be otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American's, and will not even though they live among us ten generations. A leopard cannot change its spots.
"Jews are Asiatics, they are a menace to this country if permitted entrance and should be excluded by this Constitution."
George Washington:
"They [the Jews] work more effectively against us, than the enemy's armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties and the great cause we are engaged in... It is much to be lamented that each state, long ago, has not hunted them down as pest to society and the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America."
Got to give it to you Carl your not political correct and I like that,Benjamin Franklin:
"I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The menace, gentlemen, is the Jews. In whatever country Jews have settled in any great numbers, they have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is founded by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within a state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal.
"For over 1700 years the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate in that they have been exiled from their homeland, they call Palestine. But, Gentlemen, should the world today give it to them in fee simple, they would at once find some cogent reason for not returning. Why? Because they are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot live only among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other people not of their race.
"If you do not exclude them from these United States, in this Constitution in less than 200 years they will have swarmed in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land, and change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives, our substance and jeopardized our liberty.
"If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them sustenance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, Gentlemen, if you do not exclude the Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your graves. Jews, Gentlemen, are Asiatics; let them be born where they will, or how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never be otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American's, and will not even though they live among us ten generations. A leopard cannot change its spots.
"Jews are Asiatics, they are a menace to this country if permitted entrance and should be excluded by this Constitution."
George Washington:
"They [the Jews] work more effectively against us, than the enemy's armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties and the great cause we are engaged in... It is much to be lamented that each state, long ago, has not hunted them down as pest to society and the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America."
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modermen: Got to give it to you Carl your not political correct and I like that,
Unfortunately, it's a fraud...
The Franklin "Prophecy"
Modern Anti-Semitic Myth Making
This article, which thoroughly documents the history of the transparent fraud known as the Franklin "Prophecy", appeared almost forty-five years ago in the April-May 1954 issue of Facts, a publication of the Anti-Defamation League. At the time, the authors wrote "This 20-year-old anti-Semitic hoax is circulating again." Today, more than sixty-five years after it was manufactured, the "Prophecy" it is still circulating, a staple of anti-Semitic propaganda. It can be found on a number of web sites maintained by haters and hate-groups. The article is, therefore, still timely and instructive
Another anti-Semitic hoax on history, of a piece with that incredible forgery, The Protocols of The Learned Elders of Zion, but not as widely distributed nor as successful in creating the pogrom atmospheres that were the achievements of the Protocols, is a speech attributed to Benjamin Franklin during the Constitutional Convention of 1787. The anti-Semitic movement, which founded the hoax, calls it the Franklin Prophecy — ascribing to Franklin a dire warning that unless Jews were expelled from the new nation by Constitutional decree they would ultimately immigrate in great numbers to the detriment of the Christian population.
Of course, no such speech was ever made. But the hoaxers sought to impart an aura of historical credibility to the fake by claiming that the speech is quoted in a "private diary" of Charles Pinckney, Revolutionary leader who was delegate from South Carolina to the Constitutional Convention. They also maintain that the diary is now in the possession of the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia, a bald lie which Henry Butler Allen, director of the Institute, has often refuted. Allen says that "historians and librarians have not been able to find [the diary] or any record of it having existed."
A copy of the forgery was anonymously circulated through the mails this month [May 1954] on stationery captioned WAR DEPARTMENT, OFFICE OF THE CHIEF OF STAFF. The envelope bore a May 3 postmark from Atlanta, Ga. This is the latest in a series of recent incidents that suggest another revival of the Prophecy. A copy was picked up earlier this year at a Tampa, Fla., bus stop, and there have been recent distributions of it in Nebraska, Pennsylvania and Alabama.
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Godsgift: Sorry but am I the only one that doesn't get this? Fall from where? What empire? OK till recently they did pretty well financially since WW2. But they've certainly never admitted to invading anywhere with the intention of running or occupying it. They have no territories outside their own borders save for Alaska, the American Virgin Islands and Hawai. The rest they claim to be liberating.
Trade has supplanted the old ways of war.
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When that million dollars you worked for so hard is only worth
a loaf of bread. And you will be happy to get the bread.
a loaf of bread. And you will be happy to get the bread.
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WhatUwish4: Well I only checked because it is a concept so totally foreign to anything we've ever been taught over here that I was shocked when I read it...
I'm very glad to know it was a hoax, too - cause I adore old Ben ad his funny, funny sayings.
After all, I'm a bit of a speckled ax myself.
I'm very glad to know it was a hoax, too - cause I adore old Ben ad his funny, funny sayings.
After all, I'm a bit of a speckled ax myself.
Well I hate to say this but the jews or small tiny amount of them have come up with the most tyranical idiologies of all time ie marx and Engels communism etc and they are sometimes a state onto their own not to mention Israel and the world worry of world war beacause of it.
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agman: When that million dollars you worked for so hard is only worth
a loaf of bread. And you will be happy to get the bread.
a loaf of bread. And you will be happy to get the bread.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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I wake up every morning at nine and grab for the morning paper. Then I look at the obituary page. If my name is not on it, I get up.
Sigh... I could go on and on.
Sigh... I could go on and on.
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modermen: Well I hate to say this but the jews or small tiny amount of them have come up with the most tyranical idiologies of all time ie marx and Engels communism etc and they are sometimes a state onto their own not to mention Israel and the world worry of world war beacause of it.
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Hi K
It comes easy to me.
WhatUwish4: We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
It comes easy to me.
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agman: Hi K
It comes easy to me.
It comes easy to me.
Hiya O-man.
Dumb as a fox you are! You just act the part of the speckled ax so as not to "incite the envy of your neighbors."
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WhatUwish4: I wake up every morning at nine and grab for the morning paper. Then I look at the obituary page. If my name is not on it, I get up.
Sigh... I could go on and on.
Sigh... I could go on and on.
If you do see your name in the obituary, you better get new doctor.
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