What will cause the fall of USA? ( Archived) (454)

Oct 13, 2013 10:01 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
Leo_7
Leo_7Leo_7Baku, Azerbaijan87 Threads 16 Polls 2,514 Posts
looks like USA troubles has started.uh oh
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Oct 14, 2013 12:10 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
ivajlov
ivajlovivajlovSofia, Sofia City Bulgaria25 Threads 12 Polls 387 Posts
Yes it must have started long ago.

USA is a too liberal society. Being so much so an extreme one things gets spoiled at the end.

There are many examples. Like the US health care that takes more than 25 percent of the GDP. It's too inflated a figure. Doctors get overpaid, health services too. Health insurance funds get fatter too.
It's a vicious cycle.
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Oct 14, 2013 12:23 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
ivajlov
ivajlovivajlovSofia, Sofia City Bulgaria25 Threads 12 Polls 387 Posts
Well, they certainly cost a lot.

But I cannot believe they cost more than USA health care.

Until you prove me wrong with figures.
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Oct 14, 2013 1:52 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
ivajlov
ivajlovivajlovSofia, Sofia City Bulgaria25 Threads 12 Polls 387 Posts
I like Obama.

USA must be proud to have it as a president.

But there is a small general problem about that kind of intelligent, very-well educated, brave AND pro-active leaders/thinkers.

To clarify my thoughts remember history: Julius Caesar and Napoleone Bonaparte, to name a few such great men, have experienced it and have paid for it.

You see, it's a general truth that every action/force have its counteractive force.
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Oct 14, 2013 5:27 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
Conrad73: I am pretty sure the US will let you have Obama after '16!

So,Bonaparte and Caesar,hmm?
Neither one makes the grade as a Benefactor of Humanity!
From what I just witnessed over a 400+ mile stretch from southern Kentucky to northern Ohio, many Americans would gladly give him (or anyone) Obama right now.

I saw three seperate and huge rallys protesting and wanting the POTUS impeached. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if a snowball follows nationwide.
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Oct 14, 2013 5:29 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
YouMeUs: From what I just witnessed over a 400+ mile stretch from southern Kentucky to northern Ohio, many Americans would gladly give him (or anyone) Obama right now.

I saw three seperate and huge rallys protesting and wanting the POTUS impeached. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if a snowball follows nationwide.
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Oct 14, 2013 5:31 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
some People are waiting with bated Breath for the Demise of the USA,even though it would mean their own Demise shortly thereafter!laugh
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Oct 14, 2013 5:44 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
Jack68
Jack68Jack68faisalabad, Punjab Pakistan72 Threads 30 Polls 2,605 Posts
Seems to me US has planned a new currency but before imposing it will cause the fall os $ and some major economies of the worldscold
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Oct 14, 2013 5:45 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
Conrad73: some People are waiting with bated Breath for the Demise of the USA,even though it would mean their own Demise shortly thereafter!
And to think some of those people are the same ones wanting the USofA to ban guns.

Maybe they should wait on that ban until after they shoot themselves in the foot, first?

Kinda blends into the same ideaology. laugh
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Oct 14, 2013 6:00 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
lovemedofr
lovemedofrlovemedofrbeautiful place, Nouvelle-Aquitaine France2 Threads 1,224 Posts
Ahhhhhhh .... Nostalgia of the Ole good times !!!!!laugh

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Nov 14, 2013 2:53 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
itsimpossible
itsimpossibleitsimpossibleBrisbane, Queensland Australia4 Threads 777 Posts
Ask yourself how well these are working:

We spent the rent money on lottery tickets and booze. We hope something good happens soon.
We spent a few $Trillion on useless wars in the middle-east. We hope it helped.
We spent $17,000,000,000,000 more than our revenue. We hope it is not a problem.
We sold or “leased” much of our accumulated gold and sent it to China. We hope nobody noticed and that it will not matter.
We hope we don’t have another stock market or bond market crash.
We hope to increase taxes and reduce benefits while increasing consumer prices and we hope to keep the people happy and voting for the incumbents. (This is also change.)
We hope to actually pass a budget real soon. (Congress has not passed a budget in the past five years. Did anyone notice or care?)
We hope to reduce the deficit real soon.
We hope the Federal Reserve and the politicians will make it all better.
We hope that hope and change will begin to work real soon.
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Nov 16, 2013 11:20 PM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
d401654u
d401654ud401654uFranklin, Tennessee USA63 Posts
First of all if U.S. Falls it will be because we tolerated liberal loons who ate away at what built and sustained our country. In my opinion, free speech should only be tolerated when it doesn't degrade, diminish, or destroy what built the foundation for a strong Republic.
very mad
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Nov 17, 2013 12:54 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
d401654u: First of all if U.S. Falls it will be because we tolerated liberal loons who ate away at what built and sustained our country. In my opinion, free speech should only be tolerated when it doesn't degrade, diminish, or destroy what built the foundation for a strong Republic.
quite a defender of the First Amendment,hmm?
Only apply Constitutional Rights when convenient?
Sheesh!doh
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Nov 17, 2013 1:31 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
Dragos1
Dragos1Dragos1Metro, Oregon USA54 Threads 1 Polls 1,982 Posts
d401654u: First of all if U.S. Falls it will be because we tolerated liberal loons who ate away at what built and sustained our country. In my opinion, free speech should only be tolerated when it doesn't degrade, diminish, or destroy what built the foundation for a strong Republic.


If you ever got your wish you may be quieted in ways that you did not expect. And then maybe someone will adjust other "rights" that we have like more restrictions on your weapons and the criteria of acceptable religious beliefs. Things can backfire when we try to modify them for the benefits of one line of thinking.
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Nov 17, 2013 7:25 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
d401654u
d401654ud401654uFranklin, Tennessee USA63 Posts
Conrad73: quite a defender of the First Amendment,hmm?
Only apply Constitutional Rights when convenient?
Sheesh!


What good is the Constitution if you allow liberal left wing loons to chip away at it until it is useless. The present liberal loons in charge say "they would like to fundamentally change the U.S. and the Constitution".
So why should Americans just sit by and let them destroy what built the country in the first place. So your comment does not hold up now, maybe in the 60's. If they change it or destroy it, we do not have it to use anymore in the first place.
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Nov 17, 2013 7:56 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
ChasingCars
ChasingCarsChasingCarsCrappy Thrappy, Northamptonshire, England UK26 Threads 5 Polls 1,006 Posts
d401654u: First of all if U.S. Falls it will be because we tolerated liberal loons who ate away at what built and sustained our country. In my opinion, free speech should only be tolerated when it doesn't degrade, diminish, or destroy what built the foundation for a strong Republic.


Yeah right. So if anyone chips away at Americans 'Rights' to go and destroy schools full of kids with automatic weapons (as opposed to the muskets that were around when the constitution was drafted), America will fall? Just as it will go into decline if Obamacare cuts the nations overall healthcare costs substantially?

I'm glad you cleared that up. Some of us were under the illusion that it spent too much starting long costly wars since 1945, with countries that posed no direct threat, didn't control its financial sector well enough, didn't make enough capital investment, was importing what it could produce at home and hadn't got a full grip on its energy consumption. Thanks for putting us right.
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Nov 17, 2013 7:57 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
unlaoised
unlaoisedunlaoisedTwilight zone, Wicklow Ireland34 Threads 12,152 Posts
ChasingCars: Yeah right. So if anyone chips away at Americans 'Rights' to go and destroy schools full of kids with automatic weapons (as opposed to the muskets that were around when the constitution was drafted), America will fall? Just as it will go into decline if Obamacare cuts the nations overall healthcare costs substantially?

I'm glad you cleared that up. Some of us were under the illusion that it spent too much starting long costly wars since 1945, with countries that posed no direct threat, didn't control its financial sector well enough, didn't make enough capital investment, was importing what it could produce at home and hadn't got a full grip on its energy consumption. Thanks for putting us right.


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Nov 17, 2013 8:34 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
d401654u
d401654ud401654uFranklin, Tennessee USA63 Posts
ChasingCars: Yeah right. So if anyone chips away at Americans 'Rights' to go and destroy schools full of kids with automatic weapons (as opposed to the muskets that were around when the constitution was drafted), America will fall? Just as it will go into decline if Obamacare cuts the nations overall healthcare costs substantially?

I'm glad you cleared that up. Some of us were under the illusion that it spent too much starting long costly wars since 1945, with countries that posed no direct threat, didn't control its financial sector well enough, didn't make enough capital investment, was importing what it could produce at home and hadn't got a full grip on its energy consumption. Thanks for putting us right.


I think maybe you should worry about your own countries decline looks like violent Muslims will rule your streets. Everytthing you mention is whats wrong with your country. I believe our country sent your country back home with their tail between their legs in 1776 tongue Fix your own countries problems and then come and talk, until then rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 17, 2013 8:49 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
d401654u
d401654ud401654uFranklin, Tennessee USA63 Posts
Foreigners want to speak of costly wars. Europe and England included could not stop the communist Regime WW I and WW II, who came to the rescue every time America. Then you want to come and talk about whats wrong with us Bah tongue professor
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Nov 17, 2013 9:03 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
tiredofwebsites
tiredofwebsitestiredofwebsitesDeLand, Florida USA55 Posts
Ignorance. The first thing a totalitarian does is eliminate intelligent people. The second thing is they eliminate free speech. When we become a nation of total ignorance and no longer have free speech, then you will see us fall. Fortunately, we are gifted to have so many incredible people born here and even some attracted here. It is they who make sure that people get educated(though it is a selected few who go to the best schools) and they who continue to fight for freedom of speech here. It is remarkable to me that those who most need education mock it.
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