What will cause the fall of USA? ( Archived) (454)

Jan 21, 2013 1:34 PM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
Rubicon76
Rubicon76Rubicon76Doha, Qatar308 Posts
montemonte: I was reading an article on the internet about today's inauguration and in the Comments section, someone wrote this. The person's name was there but I can't display that:

"I'm European so I can't be as accurate than you my American Friends. So I wish that you will get back on your heels for the sake of your country but also for the sake of the world because you know that what affects the US economy affects all of us undirectly. So we are counting on you and i wish you'll stand united to face this challenge. So good luck to you for these next 4 years!"That's what I call an international friend who believes and hopes that the United States will prosper because what happens to us will also happen to those around us.

That person doesn't want us to fail like so many others on CS do.


I don't want the US economy to fail - quite the contrary. My contracts are usually paid out in US dollars (certainly my present one is) so I need the US currency to remain strong as much as the Chinese do. Every day that the dollar falls lower I am earning less in my home currency which conversely strengthens as it is considered a high-risk currency.

I used to believe that the US would bounce back but now I just can't see how the trend is going to be reversed.

There is also a school of thought which suggests that a deteriorating American society will probably go hand-in-hand with increasing global instability. This is possibly a more frightening and worrying idea than a locally fragile domestic community. A world in turmoil is a world ripe for despots and tyrants.
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Jan 21, 2013 1:37 PM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
OkieChic
OkieChicOkieChicOklahoma City, Oklahoma USA11 Threads 4 Polls 649 Posts
Leo_7: We know that many empires and powerfull countries has fallen or dissapeard on Earth through the history.Today USA is claming to be the most powerfull country in the world.So that might cause the fall.So what would the cause of that?
Natural disasters?
foreign policy ?
internal problems?
its double standarts ?
religious wars?
asteroids?
alien invasion or what?

Tell us ur opinion.
PS.I dont wish any country falling and people suffer .This is just a thread for some debate.


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Jan 21, 2013 1:47 PM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
this is my two cents worth read the book harbinger very good book. on the best sellers list.
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Jan 21, 2013 4:31 PM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
I doubt anything at all. America was born out of revolution and it has continued to evolve ever since. I imagine it will continue to do so looong into the future! Long life, peace and happiness America! peace
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Jan 21, 2013 11:33 PM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
The fall has come but no one noticed
We live on borrowed time
The dollar that was once so strong
Is now worth just a dime
And still the money dwindles
we borrow every day
we babble about austerity
but we don't mean what we say
It's not that a crash is coming
For it is already here
The illusion of continued wealth
will quickly disappear
for it's only due to printing
currency that is not backed
So the value of each new dollar
Is quietly stolen from our stack.
Thus they maintain the illusion
of an economic rebound
meanwhile midst the great confusion
all the wealth is leaving town
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Jan 21, 2013 11:39 PM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
viva007
viva007viva007HYDERABAD, Telangana India41 Threads 8 Polls 7,447 Posts
Fall of USA.......August
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Jan 22, 2013 1:07 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
tedbear54
tedbear54tedbear54columbus, Georgia, Georgia USA1 Posts
Daniel 11:20 20. Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle. 37. Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
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Jan 22, 2013 1:12 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
Bluefish22
Bluefish22Bluefish22Chooksville, Bay of Plenty New Zealand16 Threads 1 Polls 909 Posts
"What will cause the fall of USA?"

Itself.

A society of idioms from a bygone era.
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Jan 22, 2013 1:36 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
barebum61
barebum61barebum61adelaide, South Australia Australia2 Threads 292 Posts
its not only the usa its all countries...we go only go so far help
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Jan 22, 2013 2:14 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
Bluefish22
Bluefish22Bluefish22Chooksville, Bay of Plenty New Zealand16 Threads 1 Polls 909 Posts
barebum61: its not only the usa its all countries...we go only go so far
Definitely the inflexible ones,....communion is essential for a long life.
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Jan 22, 2013 2:41 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
gemery
gemerygemeryWilliams Lake, British Columbia Canada5 Threads 509 Posts
Rumple4skin: Nonsense. Historical whackery. Early empire is far more brutal than late empire. Rome was far more cruel at the beginning and later adopted Christianity as a relatively non-violent, pragmatic measure to administer a large empire - the social glue of shared faith - ..then she fell apart.

Decadence is what kills any high culture. Continuous achievement leads to people resting upon their laurels(decadence). If anything decadent people display more pacifistic symptoms than warlike ones because they've never had to struggle for anything and therefore don't see the value in fighting.


Rome was non-violent after adopting Christianity? The Christians had a bad habit of murdering a lot of people. And the crusades? Christians slaughtered millions upon millions in all nine crusades.

Agreed, all empires fall eventually. Greed is usually the culprit as well. I think if you look at the US today, the seeds of discontent are already there...it is just a matter of time. And financially, it is close to being broke.
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Jan 22, 2013 3:10 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
Bluefish22
Bluefish22Bluefish22Chooksville, Bay of Plenty New Zealand16 Threads 1 Polls 909 Posts
Boban1: fall of the Roman Empire was not a single, dramatic event – the decline of the Empire took place over around 300 years.
My point here is that every empire has to fall sooner or later , until there isn`t any supreme leading entity
Yes, and looking back, in the past there was always another Empire or Era that carried on immediately, I don't remember any "The Void in Between Victorian and Georgian Times",

or "That Gap of Equilibrium inbetween the Early Empire and the Late Empire of Rome..."

Things rise and fall at their own momemtum in response to other things.
We can only look backward at these events, so my question would be, are you sure in your use of the word fall and empire in the same sentence as USA? As I'm pretty sure only the US thinks they are an Empire on this planet.
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Jan 22, 2013 3:12 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
Bluefish22
Bluefish22Bluefish22Chooksville, Bay of Plenty New Zealand16 Threads 1 Polls 909 Posts
gemery: Rome was non-violent after adopting Christianity? The Christians had a bad habit of murdering a lot of people. And the crusades? Christians slaughtered millions upon millions in all nine crusades.

Agreed, all empires fall eventually. Greed is usually the culprit as well. I think if you look at the US today, the seeds of discontent are already there...it is just a matter of time. And financially, it is close to being broke.
Exactly, the onslaught of Christianity slew many with its ruthless viokence and it had nothing to do with decadence and laziness, but power and greed.
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Jan 22, 2013 3:16 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
Suitor
SuitorSuitorJacksonville, Oregon USA27 Posts
Bluefish22: Exactly, the onslaught of Christianity slew many with its ruthless viokence and it had nothing to do with decadence and laziness, but power and greed.


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Jan 22, 2013 3:16 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
Suitor
SuitorSuitorJacksonville, Oregon USA27 Posts
Bluefish22: Exactly, the onslaught of Christianity slew many with its ruthless viokence and it had nothing to do with decadence and laziness, but power and greed.


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Jan 22, 2013 4:06 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
Bluefish22: Yes, and looking back, in the past there was always another Empire or Era that carried on immediately, I don't remember any "The Void in Between Victorian and Georgian Times",

or "That Gap of Equilibrium inbetween the Early Empire and the Late Empire of Rome..."

Things rise and fall at their own momemtum in response to other things.
We can only look backward at these events, so my question would be, are you sure in your use of the word fall and empire in the same sentence as USA? As I'm pretty sure only the US thinks they are an Empire on this planet.

I`ll tell you a secret,but you have to promise not to tell ...

The Roman empire actually never fell ...
the circle of power ( real rulers ) just move their welt and influence ,causing rises and falls of empires , they created the SYSTEM ...
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Jan 22, 2013 4:48 AM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
Boban1: I`ll tell you a secret,but you have to promise not to tell ...

The Roman empire actually never fell ...
the circle of power ( real rulers ) just move their welt and influence ,causing rises and falls of empires , they created the SYSTEM ...
It actually just moved into a small Area called the Vatican!laugh
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Jan 22, 2013 12:53 PM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
venusenvy: I doubt anything at all. America was born out of revolution and it has continued to evolve ever since. I imagine it will continue to do so looong into the future! Long life, peace and happiness America!



Sorry if this disappoints some folks out there roll eyes
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Jan 22, 2013 12:56 PM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
OkieChic
OkieChicOkieChicOklahoma City, Oklahoma USA11 Threads 4 Polls 649 Posts
In response to: We know that many empires and powerfull countries has fallen or dissapeard on Earth through the history.Today USA is claming to be the most powerfull country in the world.So that might cause the fall.So what would the cause of that?
Natural disasters?
foreign policy ?
internal problems?
its double standarts ?
religious wars?
asteroids?
alien invasion or what?

Tell us ur opinion.
PS.I dont wish any country falling and people suffer .This is just a thread for some debate.


Ok, I have a problem with this...why can't we put ANY other country up there for failure?? Why does everyone assume that America is going to fall?? Geezzzz really.................
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Jan 22, 2013 1:00 PM CST What will cause the fall of USA?
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
OkieChic: Ok, I have a problem with this...why can't we put ANY other country up there for failure?? Why does everyone assume that America is going to fall?? Geezzzz really.................



For some reason certain peeps on this site get off on hatin on America...I dont get it either...dunno
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