What will cause the fall of USA? (454)
Moribundity will be accelerated by increasing corporate concentration - which has already begun to exert excessive control and stifle progress.
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Sadly,the Virus is everywhere,not just in the US!
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Leo_7: We know that many empires and powerfull countries has fallen or dissapeard on Earth through the history.Today USA is claming to be the most powerfull country in the world.So that might cause the fall.Tell us ur opinion.
This is just a thread for some debate.
This is just a thread for some debate.
To add another $0.02 to this debate. Maybe the premise "today USA is claiming to be the most powerful country in the world" - is inaccurate. Maybe the USA is not the most powerful. ?
So maybe USA has not had its rise yet to have a fall? when they do the country comparisons regarding quality of life - infant mortality, longevity etc, low crime rate - USA has not ranked #1 .
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“Do not blame Caesar, blame the people of Rome who have rejoiced in their loss of freedom who hail him when he speaks in the Forum of more security, more living fatly at the expense of the industrious. – Cicero
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What happened to America? One would be hard pressed to find a more accurate assessment of our current position, and projection of the danger of proceeding further down this path, than the prophetic vision of Jedidiah Morse, sometimes called “The Father of American Geography”:
“To the kindly influence of Christianity we owe that degree of civil freedom, and political and social happiness which mankind now enjoys. …”
“Whenever the pillars of Christianity shall be overthrown, our present form of government and all blessings which flow from them must fall with them.”
“To the kindly influence of Christianity we owe that degree of civil freedom, and political and social happiness which mankind now enjoys. …”
“Whenever the pillars of Christianity shall be overthrown, our present form of government and all blessings which flow from them must fall with them.”
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GREED
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reading "The Fallacy of the Young Nation", basically we can say is based in actual, although it was published in 1905
In the case of America, indeed, a warning to this effect is instant and essential. America, of course, like every other human thing, can in spiritual sense live or die as much as it chooses. But at the present moment the matter which America has very seriously to consider is not how near it is to its birth and beginning, but how near it may be to its end. It is only a verbal question whether the American civilization is young; it may become a very practical and urgent question whether it is dying.
When once we have cast aside, as we inevitably have after a moment's thought, the fanciful physical metaphor involved in the word "youth," what serious evidence have we that America is a fresh force and not a stale one?
It has a great many people, like China; it has a great deal of money, like defeated Carthage or dying Venice. It is full of bustle and excitability, like Athens after its ruin, and all the Greek cities in their decline. It is fond of new things; but the old are always fond of new things. Young men read chronicles, but old men read newspapers. It admires strength and good looks; it admires a big and barbaric beauty in its women, for instance; but so did Rome when the Goth was at the gates.
All these are things quite compatible with fundamental tedium and decay. There are three main shapes or symbols in which a nation can show itself essentially glad and great--by the heroic in government, by the heroic in arms, and by the heroic in art. Beyond government, which is, as it were, the very shape and body of a nation, the most significant thing about any citizen is his artistic attitude towards a holiday and his moral attitude towards a fight--that is, his way of accepting life and his way of accepting death.
Subjected to these eternal tests, America does not appear by any means as particularly fresh or untouched. She appears with all the weakness and weariness of modern England or of any other Western power. In her politics she has broken up exactly as England has broken up, into a bewildering opportunism and insincerity. In the matter of war and the national attitude towards war, her resemblance to England is even more manifest and melancholy.
It may be said with rough accuracy that there are three stages in the life of a strong people. First, it is a small power, and fights small powers. Then it is a great power, and fights great powers. Then it is a great power, and fights small powers, but pretends that they are great powers, in order to rekindle the ashes of its ancient emotion and vanity. After that, the next step is to become a small power itself.
England exhibited this symptom of decadence very badly in the war with the Transvaal; but America exhibited it worse in the war with Spain. There was exhibited more sharply and absurdly than anywhere else the ironic contrast between the very careless choice of a strong line and the very careful choice of a weak enemy. America added to all her other late Roman or Byzantine elements the element of the Caracallan triumph, the triumph over nobody."
we still are in a "time frame"; no evolution ...
In the case of America, indeed, a warning to this effect is instant and essential. America, of course, like every other human thing, can in spiritual sense live or die as much as it chooses. But at the present moment the matter which America has very seriously to consider is not how near it is to its birth and beginning, but how near it may be to its end. It is only a verbal question whether the American civilization is young; it may become a very practical and urgent question whether it is dying.
When once we have cast aside, as we inevitably have after a moment's thought, the fanciful physical metaphor involved in the word "youth," what serious evidence have we that America is a fresh force and not a stale one?
It has a great many people, like China; it has a great deal of money, like defeated Carthage or dying Venice. It is full of bustle and excitability, like Athens after its ruin, and all the Greek cities in their decline. It is fond of new things; but the old are always fond of new things. Young men read chronicles, but old men read newspapers. It admires strength and good looks; it admires a big and barbaric beauty in its women, for instance; but so did Rome when the Goth was at the gates.
All these are things quite compatible with fundamental tedium and decay. There are three main shapes or symbols in which a nation can show itself essentially glad and great--by the heroic in government, by the heroic in arms, and by the heroic in art. Beyond government, which is, as it were, the very shape and body of a nation, the most significant thing about any citizen is his artistic attitude towards a holiday and his moral attitude towards a fight--that is, his way of accepting life and his way of accepting death.
Subjected to these eternal tests, America does not appear by any means as particularly fresh or untouched. She appears with all the weakness and weariness of modern England or of any other Western power. In her politics she has broken up exactly as England has broken up, into a bewildering opportunism and insincerity. In the matter of war and the national attitude towards war, her resemblance to England is even more manifest and melancholy.
It may be said with rough accuracy that there are three stages in the life of a strong people. First, it is a small power, and fights small powers. Then it is a great power, and fights great powers. Then it is a great power, and fights small powers, but pretends that they are great powers, in order to rekindle the ashes of its ancient emotion and vanity. After that, the next step is to become a small power itself.
England exhibited this symptom of decadence very badly in the war with the Transvaal; but America exhibited it worse in the war with Spain. There was exhibited more sharply and absurdly than anywhere else the ironic contrast between the very careless choice of a strong line and the very careful choice of a weak enemy. America added to all her other late Roman or Byzantine elements the element of the Caracallan triumph, the triumph over nobody."
we still are in a "time frame"; no evolution ...
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what will cause the fall of the USA - I am just worried about the fall of my bagel off the table and the dog's response to this windfall.....
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Leo_7: We know that many empires and powerfull countries has fallen or dissapeard on Earth through the history.Today USA is claming to be the most powerfull country in the world.So that might cause the fall.So what would the cause of that?
Natural disasters?
foreign policy ?
internal problems?
its double standarts ?
religious wars?
asteroids?
alien invasion or what?
Tell us ur opinion.
PS.I dont wish any country falling and people suffer .This is just a thread for some debate.
Natural disasters?
foreign policy ?
internal problems?
its double standarts ?
religious wars?
asteroids?
alien invasion or what?
Tell us ur opinion.
PS.I dont wish any country falling and people suffer .This is just a thread for some debate.
JMHO
MONEY, GREED & THEIFT
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Conrad73: hope you all ain't holding your Breath!
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even flash gordon, spiderman and superman have failures .... 
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In response to: We know that many empires and powerfull countries has fallen or dissapeard on Earth through the history.Today USA is claming to be the most powerfull country in the world.So that might cause the fall.So what would the cause of that?
Natural disasters?
foreign policy ?
internal problems?
its double standarts ?
religious wars?
asteroids?
alien invasion or what?
Tell us ur opinion.
PS.I dont wish any country falling and people suffer .This is just a thread for some debate.
Natural disasters?
foreign policy ?
internal problems?
its double standarts ?
religious wars?
asteroids?
alien invasion or what?
Tell us ur opinion.
PS.I dont wish any country falling and people suffer .This is just a thread for some debate.
You and Azerbajian.
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stringman: http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/94-year-old-billy-grahams-warning-for-america/
he better getting ready for his own last journey! 
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Well, i dont think it will fall,but it proberly needs to concentrate on its main asset....the everyday people of America,not the select few.
The everyday people built America,fought for it and they deserve to be listened to.
The everyday people built America,fought for it and they deserve to be listened to.
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Conrad73: he better getting ready for his own last journey!
are you?
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stringman: are you?
don't you worry about me,worry about yourself!Every Man has to carry his Own Skin to the Market!
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Total internal corruption of the government; renunciation of the Constitution on which this great country was once founded; political correctness of 'newspeak,' & the dissolution of God.
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Money.remember John F.Kennedy s executive order 11110.He wanted to fix the USD redeemable to silver again like his forefathers.
US would be richer now instead of debt.Cause silver is top nowadays.
Check out the video.
I am not American by the way.Just my researches brought me to this point.
US would be richer now instead of debt.Cause silver is top nowadays.
Check out the video.
I am not American by the way.Just my researches brought me to this point.
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Natural disasters?
foreign policy ?
internal problems?
its double standarts ?
religious wars?
asteroids?
alien invasion or what?
Tell us ur opinion.
PS.I dont wish any country falling and people suffer .This is just a thread for some debate.
a banana peel :)