Margaret Thatcher RIP (251)

Apr 18, 2013 6:09 PM CST Margaret Thatcher RIP
Aoifethocxx
AoifethocxxAoifethocxxunknown, Cork Ireland1 Threads 51 Posts
snowlynx: We as Irish people owe her a great debt, she didn't flinch in the face of terrorism.


Are you joking? You have to be. We owe her nothing.
Apr 18, 2013 6:51 PM CST Margaret Thatcher RIP
Aoifethocxx: Are you joking? You have to be. We owe her nothing.
That a girl, You tell that fella there a thing or two. ireland There's an awful smell of the Sasanach off him.
Apr 19, 2013 12:36 AM CST Margaret Thatcher RIP
scriobhneoir
scriobhneoirscriobhneoirCork, Ireland85 Threads 2 Polls 3,276 Posts
fifitheminx: i want pink overalls..

can u arrange that for me???


It's siberia for you with that kind of talk missy.scold
Apr 19, 2013 2:58 AM CST Margaret Thatcher RIP
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
modermen: First socialism then communism as has hapend all down through history, every communist country holds up the banner of socialism, every single one of them, show me a communist country that dosent?


I know you have not got the brains to comprehend the difference. But they are completly different ideals. Socialism is all about civil responsibility of looking after the people in society down on their luck. It is about looking after the old,young sick, disabled and those who find themselves out of employment through no fault of their own with no chance of finding a job.

Communism is about the state owning everything and doesn't work.doh But idiots like yourself and that other goon face who will answer you but is afraid to comment on one of my posts think anyone who is not a far right loon like yourself is a communist. roll eyes

And you dont seem to know what a communist even is!laugh
Apr 19, 2013 4:03 AM CST Margaret Thatcher RIP
fifitrixibelle
fifitrixibellefifitrixibellegalway, Galway Ireland20 Threads 1 Polls 4,629 Posts
Looks like this is turning into another sofar/stan thread, going on for years, look what u started snowy doh
Apr 19, 2013 7:10 AM CST Margaret Thatcher RIP
modermen
modermenmodermencork, Cork Ireland66 Threads 1,108 Posts
sofarsogood74: I know you have not got the brains to comprehend the difference. But they are completly different ideals. Socialism is all about civil responsibility of looking after the people in society down on their luck. It is about looking after the old,young sick, disabled and those who find themselves out of employment through no fault of their own with no chance of finding a job.

Communism is about the state owning everything and doesn't work. But idiots like yourself and that other goon face who will answer you but is afraid to comment on one of my posts think anyone who is not a far right loon like yourself is a communist.

And you dont seem to know what a communist even is!
Again show me a communist country that dident display the socialist banner???
Apr 19, 2013 7:24 AM CST Margaret Thatcher RIP
modermen: Again show me a communist country that dident display the socialist banner???

Most communist countries were Socialist by definition (State owns methods of Production). Communism under Marxist-Leninism doctrine was a state of affairs where even currency would not be needed. Again, technically, no country ever reached Communism. Most countries in Eastern Europe for example always had as part of their propaganda the idea that they were still on the road to Communism, hence the state of permanent revolution that existed. Some Americans for example love calling some Europeans 'socialists'. What exists in most European countries is what's called Social Democracy, in political jargon, a far cry from a strict definition of Socialism. In other words, some state control of the means of production, with a Liberal Democracy with Minority Rights, notwithstanding the token monarchies that are still there.
Apr 19, 2013 7:35 AM CST Margaret Thatcher RIP
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
I presume your answer above is "Both are marxist ideas simples ,but keep it coming."


You don't even have the brain to reply properly.laugh

Again. A 5 years old knows there are degrees to the left and right. But that seems to escape you.

In the West we tend to be in the middle and depending what government is in we move slightly one way or the other.

But a man with your brain power that calls anyone with a social conscience a commie would not be expected to get that.laugh
Apr 19, 2013 7:38 AM CST Margaret Thatcher RIP
modermen
modermenmodermencork, Cork Ireland66 Threads 1,108 Posts
sofarsogood74: I presume your answer above is "Both are marxist ideas simples ,but keep it coming."You don't even have the brain to reply properly.

Again. A 5 years old knows there are degrees to the left and right. But that seems to escape you.

In the West we tend to be in the middle and depending what government is in we move slightly one way or the other.

But a man with your brain power that calls anyone with a social conscience a commie would not be expected to get that.
Keep it coming after all you are a commie socialist as you said before, I love the insults it show what your like , go on again keep em coming.
Apr 19, 2013 7:45 AM CST Margaret Thatcher RIP
modermen
modermenmodermencork, Cork Ireland66 Threads 1,108 Posts
MADDOG69: Most communist countries were Socialist by definition (State owns methods of Production). Communism under Marxist-Leninism doctrine was a state of affairs where even currency would not be needed. Again, technically, no country ever reached Communism. Most countries in Eastern Europe for example always had as part of their propaganda the idea that they were still on the road to Communism, hence the state of permanent revolution that existed. Some Americans for example love calling some Europeans 'socialists'. What exists in most European countries is what's called Social Democracy, in political jargon, a far cry from a strict definition of Socialism. In other words, some state control of the means of production, with a Liberal Democracy with Minority Rights, notwithstanding the token monarchies that are still there.
Most of the socialist commie countries in the east of europe were liberated-invaded by the russian socialists and socialism was enforced on them or in other words state control, as in poland with the German national socialists it was the blood which was impure with the international socialists it was the mind which was impure and had to be converted, funny on speaking with Polish people they seem to of disliked the latter more so.
Apr 19, 2013 7:54 AM CST Margaret Thatcher RIP
modermen: Most of the socialist commie countries in the east of europe were liberated-invaded by the russian socialists and socialism was enforced on them or in other words state control, as in poland with the German national socialists it was the blood which was impure with the international socialists it was the mind which was impure and had to be converted, funny on speaking with Polish people they seem to of disliked the latter more so.

The Polish? The Polish still blame the Jews and the Russians for everything. A bunch of Anti-Semites most of them are, even as they were gassed side by side, they still blame them.

As for Eastern Europeans in General... most of them are in denial. The Germans had what's called Generalplan Ost. The end result was the complete annihilation of everybody in Eastern Europe down to about 20 million... a number that could be safely ran across the Urals to Oblivion. But when I say this to most Eastern Europeans they wave it off saying it might have been different. But it wouldn't have been. They would have been wiped out. Poles would have been the first. The Soviets might have installed their Government for them, but if it was the Germans instead? None of them would exist today.
Apr 19, 2013 7:57 AM CST Margaret Thatcher RIP
modermen
modermenmodermencork, Cork Ireland66 Threads 1,108 Posts
MADDOG69: The Polish? The Polish still blame the Jews and the Russians for everything. A bunch of Anti-Semites most of them are, even as they were gassed side by side, they still blame them.

As for Eastern Europeans in General... most of them are in denial. The Germans had what's called Generalplan Ost. The end result was the complete annihilation of everybody in Eastern Europe down to about 20 million... a number that could be safely ran across the Urals to Oblivion. But when I say this to most Eastern Europeans they wave it off saying it might have been different. But it wouldn't have been. They would have been wiped out. Poles would have been the first. The Soviets might have installed their Government for them, but if it was the Germans instead? None of them would exist today.
Yes I agree, as in international socialism and national socialism both are nasty.
Apr 19, 2013 7:59 AM CST Margaret Thatcher RIP
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
modermen: Ah so now we know more of you as a self proclaimed marxist or of a faith of foreign historicaly opressive political identity not that you can't have an Irish one, but at least your honest,all the best in giving governments more control over us all.



Well if I am a Marxist that you make you a far right fascist then. So they were quite good at being oppressive themselves.laugh
Apr 19, 2013 8:02 AM CST Margaret Thatcher RIP
MADDOG69: That a girl, You tell that fella there a thing or two. There's an awful smell of the Sasanach off him.


thumbs up rolling on the floor laughing
Apr 19, 2013 8:03 AM CST Margaret Thatcher RIP
modermen
modermenmodermencork, Cork Ireland66 Threads 1,108 Posts
MADDOG69: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost
Oh the national socialists were totaly nuts but they had similar ideals to the international ones ie a no class system and yes a lot of Polish people don't know their history and were involved in anti semitism , the socialist in Russia were just getting started on the doctors plot ie the liquidisation of the jews also before uncle joe died, the international socialist were experts in the brainwashing though as they are doing here as in cultural marxisim. I can see the socialists in Sweeden becoming national socialist very easy, as in history they can switch sides very fast.
Apr 19, 2013 8:06 AM CST Margaret Thatcher RIP
modermen: Oh the national socialists were totaly nuts but they had similar ideals to the international ones ie a no class system and yes a lot of Polish people don't know their history and were involved in anti semitism , the socialist in Russia were just getting started on the doctors plot ie the liquidisation of the jews also before uncle joe died, the international socialist were experts in the brainwashing though as they are doing here as in cultural marxisim. I can see the socialists in Sweeden becoming national socialist very easy, as in history they can switch sides very fast.

Actually there's a fairly big underground Far Right movement in Sweden.
Apr 19, 2013 8:25 AM CST Margaret Thatcher RIP
modermen
modermenmodermencork, Cork Ireland66 Threads 1,108 Posts
sofarsogood74: Well if I am a Marxist that you make you a far right fascist then. So they were quite good at being oppressive themselves.
Were ever did I say I was a fascist?? please let me know, I detest all forms of those terms, again please point out how I am a fascist.
Apr 19, 2013 8:38 AM CST Margaret Thatcher RIP
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
modermen: Were ever did I say I was a fascist?? please let me know, I detest all forms of those terms, again please point out how I am a fascist.



Where did I say I was a communist? dunno

Seems you cant see there are degrees to both the left and right and you call anyone on the left a communist I have started doing the same. I will call anyone on the right a fascist. As they were/are the far right and communists were/are the far left.

So if I am a communist that would make you a fascist. Simples.grin
Apr 19, 2013 8:47 AM CST Margaret Thatcher RIP
modermen
modermenmodermencork, Cork Ireland66 Threads 1,108 Posts
sofarsogood74: Well if I am a Marxist that you make you a far right fascist then. So they were quite good at being oppressive themselves.
Well if you are a socialist which derives from or is a marxist principle how does that make me a fascist as you said you are of the latter it dosent make me or others automatically fascist, you may label yourself and you may tag others but it dosent mean they are , the only thing which rings true is how you have labled your self which is an admitance.
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