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mr1983Galway, Ireland35 Threads 7 Polls 1,076 PostsCan anyone here explain why a bus company that has a monopoly in Ireland's biggest city is losing money? I'm dumbfounded!
mr1983: You forgot that the average basic pay of a bus driver is 40000.
and that is just basic
most of them earn a lot more
and I didn't forget, I just don't want any bus drivers whinging at me if I say they earn too much
mr1983: Wait until Comrade Gilmore has his way! Then you and you bourgeois friends who don't like the smell in the bus will have to just put up with it! Equality and all that!!
We'll all have our very own private bus in his Utopia.
Not merging threads or anything ... but I did notice that anti property tax activists blocked the Labour bus at this years gay pride parade. They should be proud of that. The Labradors had to take down their banner before they were allowed progress but Komrade Millionaire's face was still ever watchful, like big brother, as the bus moved on. Very funny. You'll want to skip on to 04:15 to see it
mr1983: Can anyone here explain why a bus company that has a monopoly in Ireland's biggest city is losing money? I'm dumbfounded!
Because it is badly run. That is down to the people at the top...But now they are trying to do something about it the people at the "bottom" are not happy. I think the cuts look fair enough myself. The management and admin staff are taking the bulk of the cuts but drivers still are not happy?
i have a full drivers lience , i might get work driving buses,no problem to me
pedro27: i have a full drivers lience , i might get work driving buses,no problem to me
Cant drive a bus on a normal licence. You need a special D licence.
sofarsogood74: Cant drive a bus on a normal licence. You need a special D licence.
i know all i got to do is apply for the special licence
pedro27: i know all i got to do is apply for the special licence
you'll have to take at least 10 lessons before you even attempt the driving test not to mention the theory test...its a money racket
facetowardsfront: Do you remember the days when you could smoke upstairs? Oh dear God, when it was raining all the windows would be closed. Talk about secondary smoke.
That still happens on some dublin buses and its not just normal cigarettes the scumbags do be smoking at the back of the bus either
with the buses on strike
where do you go to drink your cans??
where do you go to drink your cans??
WadeWilson: with the buses on strike
where do you go to drink your cans??
where do you go to drink your cans??
boardwalk
if the cuts go ahead.. from what ive been reading...
my local service will be a bus every 2 hours over the summer period and xmas,
the buses will get fewer and far between and petrol prices go up..
back in the day of 9 to 5, bus drivers like other services got a lot more respect from the public for the late and very early shifts they did....afterall they are transporting roughly 70 odd people around its a responsibility and a job many wouldnt do.
they have special relationships with our old age pensioners..(its often its the bus driver n the green grocer are the only 2 people some pensioners get to chat to daily) and back in the day..many the drivers let me off near my house rather than the stop so i got home safer (now if they are caught..they are fined 650 quid for this, by the company)
like everything in life.. things get faster, service gets sparser and people become numbers..
sad reality, im now starting to sound like..."back in my day"..
my local service will be a bus every 2 hours over the summer period and xmas,
the buses will get fewer and far between and petrol prices go up..
back in the day of 9 to 5, bus drivers like other services got a lot more respect from the public for the late and very early shifts they did....afterall they are transporting roughly 70 odd people around its a responsibility and a job many wouldnt do.
they have special relationships with our old age pensioners..(its often its the bus driver n the green grocer are the only 2 people some pensioners get to chat to daily) and back in the day..many the drivers let me off near my house rather than the stop so i got home safer (now if they are caught..they are fined 650 quid for this, by the company)
like everything in life.. things get faster, service gets sparser and people become numbers..
sad reality, im now starting to sound like..."back in my day"..
fifitheminx: for the general publics cars !
and u knew that!
and u knew that!
i didnt know that no..thanks for clarifying..I dunno what the bog fuss is anyway..an able bodied person living in dublin could easily cycle the length of the city in an hour or so..This strike might get some people off their fat arses and out doing some exercise
All they have to do is scrap the public bus system. Tender the different routes out to private operators, include subsidies for unprofitable routes while bundling these in with some of the most profitable routes and let competition rule. The time has come to stop socialists from holding people to ransom!!
mr1983: All they have to do is scrap the public bus system. Tender the different routes out to private operators, include subsidies for unprofitable routes while bundling these in with some of the most profitable routes and let competition rule. The time has come to stop socialists from holding people to ransom!!
Problem with that way of thinking is that the only state owned companies that will be privatized are those that can turn a profit (coillte) or those that need a minimal amount of capital injection to turn a profit (our water)....I doubt there is an Irish company that could take over and there are any amount of foreign companies that would outbid them in tender.
Long story short, the buses would still run but the profits would go offshore while the taxpayer was left to subsidize the unprofitable routes.
microherd: Problem with that way of thinking is that the only state owned companies that will be privatized are those that can turn a profit (coillte) or those that need a minimal amount of capital injection to turn a profit (our water)....I doubt there is an Irish company that could take over and there are any amount of foreign companies that would outbid them in tender.
Long story short, the buses would still run but the profits would go offshore while the taxpayer was left to subsidize the unprofitable routes.
Long story short, the buses would still run but the profits would go offshore while the taxpayer was left to subsidize the unprofitable routes.
Taxpayers subsidising the unprofitable routes would be a social objective of the state. We don't want the pensioners and less well off people unable to get certain places.
Dublin Bus can't turn a profit now because of the way it is run. A private company would have it highly profitable. The tender system would be set up in a manner in order to split the number of routes in each tender. What is the point is selling one monopoly just to put in another? Although private monopolies are better than public monopolies ever will be.
And who cares if overseas operators outbid Irish companies in the tender and the profits go overseas?
microherd:
Long story short, the buses would still run but the profits would go offshore while the taxpayer was left to subsidize the unprofitable routes.
Long story short, the buses would still run but the profits would go offshore while the taxpayer was left to subsidize the unprofitable routes.
Not a thing wrong with that TBH. I've suggested as much with Bus Eireann around the country.
Dublin Bus should be shut down lock, stock and barrel if it is incapable of drastically reducing its cost base, Yes management are obviously incompetent as they have far too gutless to say no to every demand by the bloody unions plus the government is pumping over €70 million a year into this useless company.
Bus drivers get a €600 bonus each year if they out sick less than 8 days per year. FFS, how many companies give a bonus to their staff if they out sick less than 8 days per year. Varadkar was right not to intervene in the dispute, despite the idiot ramblings of that FF politician Timmy Dooley.
€40k to drive a bus in at best a semi skilled job, basic pay starting off for a bus driver should be €25k at most capped at a maximum of €32k per year. Also weekends should be treated as flat rate pay.
Bus drivers get a €600 bonus each year if they out sick less than 8 days per year. FFS, how many companies give a bonus to their staff if they out sick less than 8 days per year. Varadkar was right not to intervene in the dispute, despite the idiot ramblings of that FF politician Timmy Dooley.
€40k to drive a bus in at best a semi skilled job, basic pay starting off for a bus driver should be €25k at most capped at a maximum of €32k per year. Also weekends should be treated as flat rate pay.
unlaoised: http://www.themire.net/2013/08/07/dubliners-terrorised-by-buses-roaming-in-packs/
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