ex convicts V mental illness ( Archived) (32)

Sep 29, 2014 12:01 PM CST ex convicts V mental illness
which one has more respect from soceity?
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Sep 29, 2014 12:08 PM CST ex convicts V mental illness
pedro27: which one has more respect from soceity?

What do you think, Pedro?
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Sep 29, 2014 12:09 PM CST ex convicts V mental illness
Track16online today!
Track16online today!Track16Little Hearts Ease, Newfoundland Canada1,100 Threads 15,778 Posts
Probably about the same.
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Sep 29, 2014 12:13 PM CST ex convicts V mental illness
jac_the_gripper: What do you think, Pedro?


ex convicts are more acceptable in the world wide soceity no douth. if some people hear the word schizophrenia they shiver including family memebers, they right you off as a danger!!
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Sep 29, 2014 12:17 PM CST ex convicts V mental illness
Track16: Probably about the same.



a innocent mental ill person, is worse than a ex convict IMO any mind abnormalities are ''the modern day lepoarcy...people avoid such people!!
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Sep 29, 2014 12:19 PM CST ex convicts V mental illness
imo mental illness is on par with AIDS..in a lot of societys views
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Sep 29, 2014 12:21 PM CST ex convicts V mental illness
pedro27: ex convicts are more acceptable in the world wide soceity no douth. if some people hear the word schizophrenia they shiver including family memebers, they right you off as a danger!!

Yeah, unfortunately the press coverage leads to skewed concepts of schizophrenia, prejudice and even more ignorance that there already is.
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Sep 29, 2014 12:29 PM CST ex convicts V mental illness
pedro27: imo mental illness is on par with AIDS..in a lot of societys views

I think perhaps people with schizophrenia are often seen as more dangerous than people with HIV.

With HIV perhaps people see that they have some control over their personal endangerment as they can make choices about their own s*xual activity.

Because of press coverage of violent crimes committed by people who have schizophrenia, perhaps the population in general has a sense of being out of control. People don't get to hear about the vast majority of non-violent people with schizophrenia, nor do they have a comparison of the proportion non-schizophrenic people who commit violent crime.
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Sep 29, 2014 12:32 PM CST ex convicts V mental illness
...how about the convict..with schizophrenia...which would you tackle first.....the man...or the illness.......???????
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Sep 29, 2014 12:53 PM CST ex convicts V mental illness
Ken_19
Ken_19Ken_19Winchester, Virginia USA83 Threads 34 Polls 1,564 Posts
I think neither one is positive or healthy to be too close too.
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Sep 29, 2014 12:55 PM CST ex convicts V mental illness
jac_the_gripper: Yeah, unfortunately the press coverage leads to skewed concepts of schizophrenia, prejudice and even more ignorance that there already is.



hearing voice is bouts of despair, and then the common public add to the degrading!
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Sep 29, 2014 1:37 PM CST ex convicts V mental illness
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA87 Threads 26,940 Posts
In response to: which one has more respect from soceity?




I feel that the lose of respect is there for both.Some people are scared of something they don't know too much about.The media has never helped either.
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Sep 29, 2014 1:50 PM CST ex convicts V mental illness
Maverlin
MaverlinMaverlinWise County, Virginia USA78 Threads 588 Posts
pedro27: ex convicts are more acceptable in the world wide society no douth. if some people hear the word schizophrenia they shiver including family memebers, they right you off as a danger!!
Ex Cons in the U.S. can sometimes be alot more ruthless than the mentally ill. This day and time, there is no rehabilitation which leads to even smarter crimes being committed. The mentally ill are more inclined to be used as puppets, moreso than ex cons. However, the mentally ill in America are accepted more in the job industry because over 92% of ex cons within the U.S. can't get jobs, can't find apartments or housing Realtors willing to rent to them, or participate in certain events due to their background history. And if you listen to the American media, they demonize ex cons on a daily basis. We agree with one guy who say that they both are treated nearly the same. As ex cons are being denied Equal Opportunity for Employment, the mentally ill are having laws changed due to crimes they are committing. Breaking in stores just to steal cigarettes, is just one of the many things being implemented by the mentally ill. And not long ago, when Congresswoman Gilford of Arizona was shot by a guy suffering from Bi-polar disorder, laws changed all over the nation banning the mentally ill from the right to bear arms. So in truth, both are being given the shaft in one way or another.
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Sep 29, 2014 2:20 PM CST ex convicts V mental illness
Maverlin: Ex Cons in the U.S. can sometimes be alot more ruthless than the mentally ill. This day and time, there is no rehabilitation which leads to even smarter crimes being committed. The mentally ill are more inclined to be used as puppets, moreso than ex cons. However, the mentally ill in America are accepted more in the job industry because over 92% of ex cons within the U.S. can't get jobs, can't find apartments or housing Realtors willing to rent to them, or participate in certain events due to their background history. And if you listen to the American media, they demonize ex cons on a daily basis. We agree with one guy who say that they both are treated nearly the same. As ex cons are being denied Equal Opportunity for Employment, the mentally ill are having laws changed due to crimes they are committing. Breaking in stores just to steal cigarettes, is just one of the many things being implemented by the mentally ill. And not long ago, when Congresswoman Gilford of Arizona was shot by a guy suffering from Bi-polar disorder, laws changed all over the nation banning the mentally ill from the right to bear arms. So in truth, both are being given the shaft in one way or another.


Loughner was was diagnosed as a "Paranoid Schizophrenic",not as "Bi-Polar"!
One Heck of a difference!
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Sep 29, 2014 2:26 PM CST ex convicts V mental illness
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 6,768 Posts
pedro27: imo mental illness is on par with AIDS..in a lot of societys views


I'd be more wary of the mentally ill than somebody with HIV/AIDS. You can give someone with HIV their meds and be realistically guaranteed that they could not be a threat to you(they've recently proved that treated HIV can not be passed on)but the treatment for mental illness does not offer this level of safety, not by a long shot.
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Sep 29, 2014 2:34 PM CST ex convicts V mental illness
peachmelba
peachmelbapeachmelbawexford, Wexford Ireland102 Threads 14,193 Posts
Obstinance_Works: I'd be more wary of the mentally ill than somebody with HIV/AIDS. You can give someone with HIV their meds and be realistically guaranteed that they could not be a threat to you(they've recently proved that treated HIV can not be passed on)but the treatment for mental illness does not offer this level of safety, not by a long shot.




Well I hope you keep taking your meds.,thumbs up .
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Sep 29, 2014 2:39 PM CST ex convicts V mental illness
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 6,768 Posts
peachmelba: Well I hope you keep taking your meds., .


It's not me you cheeky mare, but I do know someone who has it.
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Sep 29, 2014 2:59 PM CST ex convicts V mental illness
Everyone suffers at some point due to Mental Illness,crying,emotional up set,different forms of Depression etc,etc.

Everyone has Mental Health issues.

Usually mental illness is not the fault of the person although it can be drug induced,my view anyway.
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Sep 29, 2014 2:59 PM CST ex convicts V mental illness
Neither..............but the mental illness probably has more understanding from society.
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Sep 29, 2014 3:10 PM CST ex convicts V mental illness
Jaymack: Everyone suffers at some point due to Mental Illness,crying,emotional up set,different forms of Depression etc,etc.

Everyone has Mental Health issues.

Usually mental illness is not the fault of the person although it can be drug induced,my view anyway.

Which begs the question, are people always entirely responsible for substance misuse given how many people self-medicate for various reasons.

Kinda like that thing where a high percentage of women on the game working to pay for their habit have been sexually abused as children. I'm not sure blame is particularly functional when people are just trying to survive their shit, however cyclical and self-destructive that is.
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