voices in the head..... ( Archived) (43)

Nov 17, 2014 11:25 AM CST voices in the head.....
Harryonline
HarryonlineHarryonlineLondon, Greater London, England UK4 Threads 639 Posts
pedro27: true, thoughts where crippling at the time but the voices were worse and added PTSD to my list, plus hallucinations delusions sheer hell


These things I feel at the root is a physical problem, such as chemical imbalance or hormonal.

Please do rule out side effects from any medicines you take. Usually they are trained to give you medicines to counter the side effects...instead of changing over the original medicine to something else. Usually the cheaper meds have more side effects, and they do not want to give you more expensive ones due to the cost.

Have you ruled out any of these things.

Sorry your going through this. The TV series Magnum PI was a wash with "the little voice in my head" and it was a hit TV show! laugh but if these voices are "louder" than this and getting on your nerves, I think it will take a slow but sure attempt at eliminating one by one the possible cause.

Personally I would under the direction of my GP, stop all medicines that may induce this effect...over a six month duration be clean from it...and then take it from there.
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Nov 17, 2014 11:35 AM CST voices in the head.....
Harryonline: These things I feel at the root is a physical problem, such as chemical imbalance or hormonal.

Please do rule out side effects from any medicines you take. Usually they are trained to give you medicines to counter the side effects...instead of changing over the original medicine to something else. Usually the cheaper meds have more side effects, and they do not want to give you more expensive ones due to the cost.

Have you ruled out any of these things.

Sorry your going through this. The TV series Magnum PI was a wash with "the little voice in my head" and it was a hit TV show! but if these voices are "louder" than this and getting on your nerves, I think it will take a slow but sure attempt at eliminating one by one the possible cause.

Personally I would under the direction of my GP, stop all medicines that may induce this effect...over a six month duration be clean from it...and then take it from there.


the chemical imbalance is a theory not fact. there is no test for it or hormonal test either so it wish/wash....my alternative is to live a satisfactory life and to accept my perdictument and that is what im doing plus getting it out there to reduce stigma attached misguided fears about such sufferings!! ect..
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Nov 17, 2014 11:48 AM CST voices in the head.....
pedro27: the chemical imbalance is a theory not fact. there is no test for it or hormonal test either so it wish/wash....my alternative is to live a satisfactory life and to accept my perdictument and that is what im doing plus getting it out there to reduce stigma attached misguided fears about such sufferings!! ect..
Pedro, perhaps you could've said this in your OP then. You stated a question in your OP, thus inviting feedback and opinions.

I have a friend that has this condition as well. She has on a serious cocktail of medications so that she can live a normal life. When she stops taking the meds (because she feels fine), or starts consuming alcohol (because she claims alcohol is not a drug and does not mess with the balance of the meds), then she begins hearing the voices again, she starts doing unusual things and acting erratically and dangerously. She will not accept that drinking alcohol is a cause of this psychotic behavior.

Yet, when she does hit rock bottom, and she does stop the alcohol and nicotene, and begins the climb back to a healthy diet, meditation, and taking the meds regularly, she is back to herself and can function quite normally.
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Nov 17, 2014 11:50 AM CST voices in the head.....
Harryonline
HarryonlineHarryonlineLondon, Greater London, England UK4 Threads 639 Posts
pedro27: the chemical imbalance is a theory not fact. there is no test for it or hormonal test either so it wish/wash....my alternative is to live a satisfactory life and to accept my perdictument and that is what im doing plus getting it out there to reduce stigma attached misguided fears about such sufferings!! ect..


Are there times when its better ? and if so, is there a pattern ?

I would try to focus on some project or hobby which I find so interesting that nothing else occupies my time or mind.

Having too much time - floods your mind with thoughts

I see this occurring with those I know.
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Nov 17, 2014 12:04 PM CST voices in the head.....
Harryonline: Are there times when its better ? and if so, is there a pattern ?

I would try to focus on some project or hobby which I find so interesting that nothing else occupies my time or mind.

Having too much time - floods your mind with thoughts

I see this occurring with those I know.
in my case here now is that ive become unafraid!! and can take on my journey in my stride knowing i have now huge amounts of self worth which keeps me safe knowing i know myself...ive beaten the dark the hard way...
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Nov 17, 2014 12:27 PM CST voices in the head.....
Harryonline
HarryonlineHarryonlineLondon, Greater London, England UK4 Threads 639 Posts
pedro27: in my case here now is that ive become unafraid!! and can take on my journey in my stride knowing i have now huge amounts of self worth which keeps me safe knowing i know myself...ive beaten the dark the hard way...


We are our own worst enemy, for you it might be more sever the fight.

As a silly analogy but poignant nonetheless, remember Superman got bad, was unkempt, unshaven, drunkard - and the fight with the good side to him.

{youtube}http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az6fpD4-lk4{/youtube}
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Nov 17, 2014 12:29 PM CST voices in the head.....
Harryonline
HarryonlineHarryonlineLondon, Greater London, England UK4 Threads 639 Posts
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Nov 17, 2014 12:30 PM CST voices in the head.....
Kaybee50: You know fully well that I was not discussing what causes the inception of a mental illness.
You also know fully well that mixing drugs will indeed decrease the effectiveness of your medications, thus, creating this cycle of dependency.



you can't tell me what i know as a matter of fact no one can.!

i'm shading light on a taboo the fear of mental ill people there misguided info most mental ill people are not dangerious most are id say better in many than genral public!!
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Nov 17, 2014 12:35 PM CST voices in the head.....
Harryonline: We are our own worst enemy, for you it might be more sever the fight.

As a silly analogy but poignant nonetheless, remember Superman got bad, was unkempt, unshaven, drunkard - and the fight with the good side to him.

{youtube}http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az6fpD4-lk4{/youtube}



ive found my way in life, ive striped me down to the core exsentence and found my core to be a seed of and a part of life.
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Nov 17, 2014 1:11 PM CST voices in the head.....
pedro27: you can't tell me what i know as a matter of fact no one can.!

i'm shading light on a taboo the fear of mental ill people there misguided info most mental ill people are not dangerious most are id say better in many than genral public!!
Why do you create a thread about mental illness, as you often do, and do not allow for others' input?

Why do you intentionally take words out of context. We were speaking of hearing voices, weren't we? You spoke of considering suicide at a younger age, a dangerous act, weren't you? Keeping to these two points, I stand by why have I written. Alcohol mixed with heavy medications will decrease the effectiveness of the meds, and bring back the symptoms of the illness.

I'm leaving this thread.
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Nov 17, 2014 4:49 PM CST voices in the head.....
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
pedro27: where do voices in the head come from because nobody knows not even psycharists....how do you rate the suffering it causes?on a scale?



This is the evolution of memes.
Psychiatrists don't know anything because they're busy suffering to know.


Suffering? Thoughts do not cause suffering, they are suffering manifested; but could just as well be joy.

Take two cationic peptoid polymers and call me in the morning. professor
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Nov 17, 2014 4:58 PM CST voices in the head.....
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
BB_snickers: This is the evolution of memes.
Psychiatrists don't know anything because they're busy suffering to know.Suffering? Thoughts do not cause suffering, they are suffering manifested; but could just as well be joy.

Take two cationic peptoid polymers and call me in the morning.


A situation could cause suffering for one, or joy for another...thoughts will decide which.

Or is this a chicken and egg conundrum?

chicken
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Nov 17, 2014 5:38 PM CST voices in the head.....
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
Psychedelic drugs, self-obsession, lack of hard work to focus the mind, alcohol, etc.

So many potential causes.
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Nov 17, 2014 5:50 PM CST voices in the head.....
Jaymack
JaymackJaymackMonaghan, Ireland37 Threads 800 Posts
Drugs and Alcohol really don't help Mental Illness,but sometimes i feel the diagnosis of Mental Health uses Alcohol/Drugs as an excuse to diagnoses a person as dependent on Drugs/Alcohol,and then totally disregards Mental Illness.
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Nov 17, 2014 5:52 PM CST voices in the head.....
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
Jaymack: Drugs and Alcohol really don't help Mental Illness,but sometimes i feel the diagnosis of Mental Health uses Alcohol/Drugs as an excuse to diagnoses a person as dependent on Drugs/Alcohol,and then totally disregards Mental Illness.


Back to the chicken/egg syndrome
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Nov 17, 2014 6:23 PM CST voices in the head.....
chatonlyman2
chatonlyman2chatonlyman2North Bay, Ontario Canada27 Threads 7 Polls 6,600 Posts
I have a friend/co-worker that started hearing voices coming in.
I helped him...I got work to understand they had a problem and had to help him or?
He has medication but is still working and seen him today.
But if he smokes pot he is gone for a few days. My Friend.
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Nov 17, 2014 6:35 PM CST voices in the head.....
Jaymack
JaymackJaymackMonaghan, Ireland37 Threads 800 Posts
mollybaby: Back to the chicken/egg syndrome


Yea that's the Medical opt out,stop your Alcohol/Drugs and if it continues they will get a better idea of your Mental Health issue,and then they can then actually show some consideration to you properly, because you have.

The Chicken/Egg Syndrome spot on Molly,but then some do say the shell came first laugh thumbs up
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Nov 17, 2014 6:46 PM CST voices in the head.....
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
Jaymack: Yea that's the Medical opt out,stop your Alcohol/Drugs and if it continues they will get a better idea of your Mental Health issue,and then they can then actually show some consideration to you properly, because you have.

The Chicken/Egg Syndrome spot on Molly,but then some do say the shell came first


Do you not think that people should also take responsibility for their own actions too?

E.g. taking drugs that induce psychosis. Mixing depressants with anti-depressants, etc.

One can only blame outside influences up to a point. It is up to the individual also.
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Nov 17, 2014 7:37 PM CST voices in the head.....
BB_snickers
BB_snickersBB_snickersNarnia, Ontario Canada56 Threads 3,755 Posts
bodleing2: A situation could cause suffering for one, or joy for another...thoughts will decide which.

Or is this a chicken and egg conundrum?



head banger you're already taking peptoids giggle
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Nov 17, 2014 8:05 PM CST voices in the head.....
Jaymack
JaymackJaymackMonaghan, Ireland37 Threads 800 Posts
mollybaby: Do you not think that people should also take responsibility for their own actions too?

E.g. taking drugs that induce psychosis. Mixing depressants with anti-depressants, etc.

One can only blame outside influences up to a point. It is up to the individual also.


Yea i agree with you,it's hard for people sometimes though,and i recognize that as well,ultimately though your right.
It's your own body and mind you have to look after number 1,or nobody else will.
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