religion and the future of humanity (36)
I am prepared to abandon any religious affiliation, provided it promises peace for all mankind..
Peace comes from nonabandonment sincere attempts at reconciliation.
Peace comes from nonabandonment sincere attempts at reconciliation.
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sophiasummer: I am prepared to abandon any religious affiliation, provided it promises peace for all mankind..Peace comes from nonabandonment sincere attempts at reconciliation.
Beautiful soul as you my friend, I'm here to be led by you.
Indeed, my desperation on the lack of man's attempt at reconciliation is my lament.
Take care beautiful friend. .
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lindsyjones: Beautiful soul as you my friend, I'm here to be led by you.
Indeed, my desperation on the lack of man's attempt at reconciliation is my lament.
Take care beautiful friend. .
Indeed, my desperation on the lack of man's attempt at reconciliation is my lament.
Take care beautiful friend. .
then shove youre lament to whats seeking and desperation,yet a beautiful love, that you will find.
And cast away.
Swim
You will find
One shell
To give back
You will have
All love
remember
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lindsyjones: Is it possible to abandon religion for the sake of the future of humanity?
IMPO, I am prepared to abandon any religious affiliation, provided it promises peace for all mankind..
What about you?
IMPO, I am prepared to abandon any religious affiliation, provided it promises peace for all mankind..
What about you?
Yea,organised religion seems to do as much harm as good,they sure have lovely buildings and loads of money though.You can be Religious without all the lovely trappings.
Don't think Jesus would be to pleased with some of these people at all.
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sophiasummer: then shove youre lament to whats seeking and desperation,yet a beautiful love, that you will find.
And cast away.
Swim
You will find
One shell
To give back
You will have
All love
remember
And cast away.
Swim
You will find
One shell
To give back
You will have
All love
remember
I will my friend.
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Jaymack: Yea,organised religion seems to do as much harm as good,they sure have lovely buildings and loads of money though.You can be Religious without all the lovely trappings.
Don't think Jesus would be to pleased with some of these people at all.
Don't think Jesus would be to pleased with some of these people at all.
Beyond dispute, the facts couldn't be closer to reality. Love is a manifest of religion just as much as hatred. How can we pull it to love and peace sans cruelty and harm?
That's the question.
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lindsyjones: Is it possible to abandon religion for the sake of the future of humanity?
IMPO, I am prepared to abandon any religious affiliation, provided it promises peace for all mankind..
What about you?
IMPO, I am prepared to abandon any religious affiliation, provided it promises peace for all mankind..
What about you?
No, I support patriotism, religion, and traditional values because war is not the greatest threat to the broad masses of the people. Plunder and redundancy and impoverishment are our greatest threat. All talk of one race or Humans right is wrongheaded, real rights come from real laws, real laws come from real society, real society comes from real people. Natural rights is nonsense on stilts as there is no society or substance to support any of this.
Anyway, one reason for supporting traditional values and cultural bonds is because of the diminishing value of Human capital. As the number of people economically viable gets smaller and smaller what is to prevent the remaining functioning minority from shrugging this deadweight of it shoulders like an Ayn Rand novel? The problem with the pacifists and liberals is they want to continue living bubble lives as self-interest individuals indifferent to the world around them, they seek to erode what remains of the bonds which hold similar peoples together as these are also bones of contention between dissimilar peoples, they're helping to create the Atlas Shrugged future by diluting the unity of and commonality between the people and if this doesn't one day lead to a war then I don't know what will.
The elites of the future will look at this orcish multi-ethnic mass mess and throw it in the scrapheap. Whereas a mass similar in make-up to the elite will be treated with greater sympathy and protection in the same way that psychologically normal people build bonds of affection with children who act and look like themselves, but not so much with the children of aliens.
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The most likely war in the future will be between the 99%(more like 90%)and the 1%(more like 10%). We'll probably call them uprising or skirmishes instead of wars. From the perspective of the mass it will be a case of fight or die, it's the 1% with a vested interest in the peace and maintaining the status-quo. In the name of peace and tolerance they seek to keep things as they are in the interests of the few.
Your liberal values of self-interest, drift and diversity will spell disaster for most people. This is forcing the majority of the future's working and middle class into a conflict they cannot possibly hope to win. Rather than encourage the apostates, my strong advice is to build bonds and a sense of fellowship upon your religion, one day these may be the only way that you eat unless your IQ is above 140, you have all the right familial connections, and you have the temperament of Harvard's greatest bookworm.
Your liberal values of self-interest, drift and diversity will spell disaster for most people. This is forcing the majority of the future's working and middle class into a conflict they cannot possibly hope to win. Rather than encourage the apostates, my strong advice is to build bonds and a sense of fellowship upon your religion, one day these may be the only way that you eat unless your IQ is above 140, you have all the right familial connections, and you have the temperament of Harvard's greatest bookworm.
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Removing religion(or patriotism)is removing one less barrier against acting on raw self-interest. I know the Left talks of egalitarianism and altruism in its Humanist spiel, but getting the state to do the all charity work(activity you profit from)and getting your unborn children to pay for this is not at all generous and kind.
The only reason liberalism is big on altruism is because it's been divorced from the notion of sacrifice by the baby boomers. All this charitable giving costs you nothing, but in the future charity will require sacrifice, and sacrifice will require love and commitment. And love and commitment require preserving the emotional bonds and chemistry between people, not tearing down these bonds and urinating in the chemistry. This feigned altruism and veneer of Humanity the liberals play up to like robots pretending to be Human(Androids)will feed nobody in the future, you can be sure of this.
The only reason liberalism is big on altruism is because it's been divorced from the notion of sacrifice by the baby boomers. All this charitable giving costs you nothing, but in the future charity will require sacrifice, and sacrifice will require love and commitment. And love and commitment require preserving the emotional bonds and chemistry between people, not tearing down these bonds and urinating in the chemistry. This feigned altruism and veneer of Humanity the liberals play up to like robots pretending to be Human(Androids)will feed nobody in the future, you can be sure of this.
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And maybe you're just divorce mad. I notice on here most people instinctively take the side of ducking out of commitment and duty. They generally have a self-destructive drive to tear apart the body of anything whether it's the culture, the nation, the religion or the family. The atomisation of society can be clearly seen in the real world, but online the hermit-will seems to truly overpower any sense of real duty or commitment to anyone or anything outside of yourself.
Now many people like to be "Humanist", but this in reality is a false sense of fellowship with the species which has no rules or discipline and requires absolutely nothing from you(and that's why people like it). They like it because it's highly affordable moral posturing, in fact it costs you nothing in the pocket at all, and actually pays off in the form of a status dividend(it makes you more popular).
Now many people like to be "Humanist", but this in reality is a false sense of fellowship with the species which has no rules or discipline and requires absolutely nothing from you(and that's why people like it). They like it because it's highly affordable moral posturing, in fact it costs you nothing in the pocket at all, and actually pays off in the form of a status dividend(it makes you more popular).
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lindsyjones: Is it possible to abandon religion for the sake of the future of humanity?
IMPO, I am prepared to abandon any religious affiliation, provided it promises peace for all mankind..
What about you?
IMPO, I am prepared to abandon any religious affiliation, provided it promises peace for all mankind..
What about you?
Linsy ,, hi ,,
I think that depends on what your religion is.
I don't know what religion you're referring to ?
Not all religion causes destruction to humanity, and i think no religion preaches viloence, IMPO too, i think the problem lies somewhere in the respective attitude/personality/culture. Some are an easy pry to fanatism, and manipulations, and blood thirsty too.
Abandoning Jewish, Arab, Catholism,, etc,, does not guarantee we can have peace in between. And who is except maybe you is ready to abandon, coming from a strongly catholic country like you, you could surely witness how religion is anchored on the lives of the people there,, good enough the doctrine/teachings are different.
Some needs religion pour their spirituality, as long as they don't do no harm, no reason to abandon.
For me i have nothing to abandon,, i practice my spirituality far from the church and masses.
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Obstinance_Works: And maybe you're just divorce mad. I notice on here most people instinctively take the side of ducking out of commitment and duty. They generally have a self-destructive drive to tear apart the body of anything whether it's the culture, the nation, the religion or the family. The atomisation of society can be clearly seen in the real world, but online the hermit-will seems to truly overpower any sense of real duty or commitment to anyone or anything outside of yourself.
If CS had been a measure of support for Scottish Independence, for example, Scotland would have left the Union without a doubt. I was nearly the only one arguing to keep Britain together on here and you'd never have guessed the general public agreed with me and my side would win the vote. No, the only explanation I can think of for how abnormal the CS general opinion was is because it's full of divorce-mongerers and perpetual singletons, and people are ultimately what they do.
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Obstinance_Works: If CS had been a measure of support for Scottish Independence, for example, Scotland would have left the Union without a doubt. I was nearly the only one arguing to keep Britain together on here and you'd never have guessed the general public agreed with me and my side would win the vote. No, the only explanation I can think of for how abnormal the CS general opinion was is because it's full of divorce-mongerers and perpetual singletons, and people are ultimately what they do.
Religion and conviction is not the same ,, Religion is masses,, a lot of people with the same belief,, and conviction is not a general reflection,, it's specific, it's somewhat a DNA ,, it runs in you.
And in a case, religion unites people with diferrent conviction, though does mean they are easy to manipulate, and in a case when someone questions his belief, chances are they are understanding things and not just subjecting themselves to spoonfeeding.
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Obstinance_Works: If CS had been a measure of support for Scottish Independence, for example, Scotland would have left the Union without a doubt. I was nearly the only one arguing to keep Britain together on here and you'd never have guessed the general public agreed with me and my side would win the vote. No, the only explanation I can think of for how abnormal the CS general opinion was is because it's full of divorce-mongerers and perpetual singletons, and people are ultimately what they do.
You missed out the Baby Boomers and money grabbing pensioners.....lacking in passion I see again.
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I have only been inside a Catholic church twice and that was when my mother had me baptized at 9 years old the day of my fathers funeral and the day of my mothers funeral.
Other than that I decided that I didn't need religion in my life to be a good person or know right from wrong cause I had learned those things growing up.
All religion does is complicate life.
Other than that I decided that I didn't need religion in my life to be a good person or know right from wrong cause I had learned those things growing up.
All religion does is complicate life.
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religion, alone will not save you. faith in GOD will. confession is good for the soul, confess to GOD, there is no mediator between GOD and man.
the future of humanity will only survive if humanity has faith in the creator. the world has turned away from GOD and this is way there is so much turmoil in the world today.
the future of humanity will only survive if humanity has faith in the creator. the world has turned away from GOD and this is way there is so much turmoil in the world today.
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Where would Greece be now without its wages and loans if it wasn't for the huge reserves of religious and patriotic goodwill the Greek people have? Starving. Things may be bad in Greece, but the scale of Human misery pales an insignificance compared to the severity of crisis they are in.
If what was happening in Greece today was happening in America or Britain we'd starving at thrice the rate and it's because of individualists, liberals and atheists. Now one can be angry at the Greeks for creating the mess they have, but no one could say a word against how they're dealing with the pain. Other nations, particularly the anglo nations, would not and could not pull together in the way the Greeks have.
Let Greece be a lesson to us all of what is required of a people once the easy money has gone.
If what was happening in Greece today was happening in America or Britain we'd starving at thrice the rate and it's because of individualists, liberals and atheists. Now one can be angry at the Greeks for creating the mess they have, but no one could say a word against how they're dealing with the pain. Other nations, particularly the anglo nations, would not and could not pull together in the way the Greeks have.
Let Greece be a lesson to us all of what is required of a people once the easy money has gone.
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Stedan: You missed out the Baby Boomers and money grabbing pensioners.....lacking in passion I see again.
And lacking in Balls
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lindsyjones: Is it possible to abandon religion for the sake of the future of humanity?
IMPO, I am prepared to abandon any religious affiliation, provided it promises peace for all mankind..
What about you?
Organized religion is simply a way for someone else to assume authority over you. When you are at a place of understanding your spiritual self, you will not need someone else to validate you. Organized religion is bunk. It is a method of corraling people and controlling them. Sadly, it works. You do not need it to experience spirituality. Just say no.IMPO, I am prepared to abandon any religious affiliation, provided it promises peace for all mankind..
What about you?
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IMPO, I am prepared to abandon any religious affiliation, provided it promises peace for all mankind..
What about you?