europeans all the same? ( Archived) (75)

Feb 24, 2016 11:25 AM CST europeans all the same?
imo europeans should have had never had the same currentacy we are seprate countries with different back round...lobbying us all together was a failure and has failedconversing
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Feb 24, 2016 11:57 AM CST europeans all the same?
pedro27: imo europeans should have had never had the same currentacy we are seprate countries with different back round...lobbying us all together was a failure and has failed
whats bad to live together ?
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Feb 24, 2016 12:01 PM CST europeans all the same?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Of course Britain has it's own currencygrin
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Feb 24, 2016 12:03 PM CST europeans all the same?
ali110: whats bad to live together ?

ali different culture's different people, we are NOT one culture and never will be ali
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Feb 24, 2016 12:06 PM CST europeans all the same?
tomcatwarne: Of course Britain has it's own currency
Hi Tome , i requested you something in the mail wave
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Feb 24, 2016 12:07 PM CST europeans all the same?
pedro27: ali different culture's different people, we are NOT one culture and never will be ali
Uk is a good country to rule over
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Feb 24, 2016 12:11 PM CST europeans all the same?
ali110: Uk is a good country to rule over
the uk are voting to leave the eu, if they do harm to there country will happen, they wont bit the hand that feeds them!
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Feb 24, 2016 12:12 PM CST europeans all the same?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
ali110: Hi Tome , i requested you something in the mail
I have no mail from you Ali.
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Feb 24, 2016 12:14 PM CST europeans all the same?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
pedro27: imo europeans should have had never had the same currentacy we are seprate countries with different back round...lobbying us all together was a failure and has failed


Besides having a common currency, sports, US language and federal government, few of the states in the USA have much else in common either. The U.S. Dollar should still be on a gold standard, but it works for all 50.

I thought that, originally, the euro was created in 1999 as a currency used for exchange between countries within the EU while individual countries continued to use their own currencies internally.

Why did this change to using just the Euro and why not go back to using each soveriegn states currency internally.
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Feb 24, 2016 12:15 PM CST europeans all the same?
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
In response to: imo europeans should have had never had the same currentacy we are seprate countries with different back round...lobbying us all together was a failure and has failed






I agree Pedro, that was a big mistake...
We still have our currency and we don't want to be in EU too...
We are all different and that's the uniqueness of every single country, own culture and own traditions are very important...
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Feb 24, 2016 12:17 PM CST europeans all the same?
galrads: Besides having a common currency, sports, US language and federal government, few of the states in the USA have much else in common either. The U.S. Dollar should still be on a gold standard, but it works for all 50.

I thought that, originally, the euro was created in 1999 as a currency used for exchange between countries within the EU while individual countries continued to use their own currencies internally.

Why did this change to using just the Euro and why not go back to using each soveriegn states currency internally.
germany hold the most money in europe and have the most control they taking soverty by politic means this time
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Feb 24, 2016 12:20 PM CST europeans all the same?
KremaP: I agree Pedro, that was a big mistake...
We still have our currency and we don't want to be in EU too...
We are all different and that's the uniqueness of every single country, own culture and own traditions are very important...
each country in the euro are different but yet we are all lobbed together which won't work long term
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Feb 24, 2016 12:39 PM CST europeans all the same?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
pedro27: each country in the euro are different but yet we are all lobbed together which won't work long term


One of the other reasons for the Euro was to compromise the strength of the U.S. Dollar's global reserve status.

However, England, hedging its bets, is endorsing the global economic infrastructure that the Chinese have built to go around the western-run, U.S. based IMF and World Bank. England sees the u.s. as the new titanic and is jumping ship. I hope the rest of Europe doesn't follow England.
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Feb 24, 2016 12:45 PM CST europeans all the same?
TheRedSquirrel87
TheRedSquirrel87TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1 Threads 1,107 Posts
China rising in the east and refugees raping and pillaging their way across the continent has made me take a kinder view on a union of Europe. Compared to the rest of the human race Europe is practically one big happy family.

Don't get me wrong I despise how the EU works and the ideology of most of its proponents. But it is an apparatus and it doesn't necessarily need to be put to ill use. I also wouldn't have confidence in national government when they're populated by the same people with the same ideology. When suicide by liberalism is the mentality of most people who matter then does it really matter where parliament sits?
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Feb 24, 2016 1:03 PM CST europeans all the same?
Europeans are very different, even within countries there are cultural differences.

The Euro was a good plan. Life became easier and we felt Europe. Borrowing was the problem.
The Euro was also designed to steal other countries away from the dollar-link. the dollar itself is an unstable currency.
Some Latin American countries got really felt hurt thanks to dollar links.

The gold-standard is a lie. It would have given crashes too. The system would have been abused and it wouldn't have generated the growth we had in the last century. I agree we need something better now than bank money generation.

In general i like Europe. I just think the top should be thinned out. Half the people would do a better job.
And democracy doesn't work.
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Feb 24, 2016 1:12 PM CST europeans all the same?
Da_Moose
Da_MooseDa_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada57 Threads 1,839 Posts
pedro27: the uk are voting to leave the eu, if they do harm to there country will happen, they wont bit the hand that feeds them!


Hey pedro...yeah....the Euro and the EU....couldn't quite see it happening myself...then, who am I to say?
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Feb 24, 2016 1:13 PM CST europeans all the same?
KremaP
KremaPKremaPAt home, Shumen Bulgaria3,793 Posts
Len05: Europeans are very different, even within countries there are cultural differences.

The Euro was a good plan. Life became easier and we felt Europe. Borrowing was the problem.
The Euro was also designed to steal other countries away from the dollar-link. the dollar itself is an unstable currency.
Some Latin American countries got really felt hurt thanks to dollar links.

The gold-standard is a lie. It would have given crashes too. The system would have been abused and it wouldn't have generated the growth we had in the last century. I agree we need something better now than bank money generation.

In general i like Europe. I just think the top should be thinned out. Half the people would do a better job.
And democracy doesn't work
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Yeah, true that, we should have stayed as we were before the "democracy", separated but stronger in that way... And I mean, East and West...
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Feb 24, 2016 1:16 PM CST europeans all the same?
Da_Moose
Da_MooseDa_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada57 Threads 1,839 Posts
Len05: Europeans are very different, even within countries there are cultural differences.

The Euro was a good plan. Life became easier and we felt Europe. Borrowing was the problem.
The Euro was also designed to steal other countries away from the dollar-link. the dollar itself is an unstable currency.
Some Latin American countries got really felt hurt thanks to dollar links.

The gold-standard is a lie. It would have given crashes too. The system would have been abused and it wouldn't have generated the growth we had in the last century. I agree we need something better now than bank money generation.

In general i like Europe. I just think the top should be thinned out. Half the people would do a better job.
And democracy doesn't work.


Europe is indeed a strong continent! But economic linkage I found "interesting." To "trade" currencies based on individual strengths of countries and their economies was easier than trying to trade against the currency of a "union." Far more research required!
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Feb 24, 2016 1:24 PM CST europeans all the same?
KremaP: Yeah, true that, we should have stayed as we were before the "democracy", separated but stronger in that way... And I mean, East and West...


I've been in parts of East, they got a lot of access to entire Europe and not only to the neighbouring countries. As a country like Bulgaria you need to be happy that your neighbour aren't the only trade partners.

The flow-in of money, (generated by cheap labour) is good for middle class there, pulling most of the economy.
In the future, there will be a shift in attitudes and families following, so i expect some Eastern countries to get ripped in two by conservatives and progressives. Rural vs Urban.

And do a good campaign and Bulgaria is a 100 euro plane ticket and holiday address. for millions of Europeans.
not to mention the accessibility/mixing to universities
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Feb 24, 2016 1:28 PM CST europeans all the same?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
I think things would stabilize for the euro if Chick-fil-A restaurants and its Baptist leanings were allowed to operate in Europe. Eat more chicken, not wood pulp, will bring prosperity to the old world. Endorsing Donald Trump wouldn't hurt either. head banger
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