tomcatwarneOPOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
re face book.
Would any have suspected it, but now it appears to be official: police departments refuse to hire applicants with high IQ scores.
Critics of law enforcement have long suggested that police officers tend to be selected for their lack of critical thinking, but news that department hiring processes officially disqualify high-scoring applicants might still come as a shock to many.
While a rare exception to the rule might slip through the cracks, if you are too smart, police departments simply won’t hire you.
This policy became solidified in a federal ruling dating back almost a decade and a half ago. The ruling came with little fanfare from the mainstream, corporate media, who didn’t apparent find it to be newsworthy.
In 1999, a Federal judge dismissed a lawsuit by an applicant to the New London, Connecticut police department who was barred from being hired after successfully taking the intelligence portion of the police examinations. The disqualification came because he had scored “too high” on the test. The New London Police Department made it clear that they did not want the “bottom of the barrel” when it came to intelligence, but they also didn’t want anyone who was “too smart” either.
This little-known ruling was made public back in September of the same year. Judge Peter C. Dorsey of the United States District Court in New Haven, Connecticut confirmed that the plaintiff, Robert Jordan, 48, who holds a bachelor’s degree in literature, had been denied an opportunity to even interview for a job with the department, for no reason other than his high test scores.
Judge Dorsey ruled in favor of the department, saying that Mr. Jordan was offered no protection under the law in this case. There is no legal protection given to intelligent people from discriminatory hiring practices by individual police departments, Dorsey explained. The judge continued, explaining that police departments held all applicants to this same standard and thus they rejected all applicants who scored high. As a result, this could not be held as discriminatory in nature.
The next time you cross paths with a law enforcement officer and wonder how anyone so stupid managed to get hired by their department, now you know that this stupidity might in fact be the very thing that qualified them for the job.
In response to: re face book.Would any have suspected it, but now it appears to be official: police departments refuse to hire applicants with high IQ scores.
Critics of law enforcement have long suggested that police officers tend to be selected for their lack of critical thinking, but news that department hiring processes officially disqualify high-scoring applicants might still come as a shock to many.
While a rare exception to the rule might slip through the cracks, if you are too smart, police departments simply won’t hire you.
This policy became solidified in a federal ruling dating back almost a decade and a half ago. The ruling came with little fanfare from the mainstream, corporate media, who didn’t apparent find it to be newsworthy.
In 1999, a Federal judge dismissed a lawsuit by an applicant to the New London, Connecticut police department who was barred from being hired after successfully taking the intelligence portion of the police examinations. The disqualification came because he had scored “too high” on the test. The New London Police Department made it clear that they did not want the “bottom of the barrel” when it came to intelligence, but they also didn’t want anyone who was “too smart” either.
This little-known ruling was made public back in September of the same year. Judge Peter C. Dorsey of the United States District Court in New Haven, Connecticut confirmed that the plaintiff, Robert Jordan, 48, who holds a bachelor’s degree in literature, had been denied an opportunity to even interview for a job with the department, for no reason other than his high test scores.
Judge Dorsey ruled in favor of the department, saying that Mr. Jordan was offered no protection under the law in this case. There is no legal protection given to intelligent people from discriminatory hiring practices by individual police departments, Dorsey explained. The judge continued, explaining that police departments held all applicants to this same standard and thus they rejected all applicants who scored high. As a result, this could not be held as discriminatory in nature.
The next time you cross paths with a law enforcement officer and wonder how anyone so stupid managed to get hired by their department, now you know that this stupidity might in fact be the very thing that qualified them for the job.
Let me grab my FLAME proof clothing before I post....
There is a slight shard of truth to these statements. Grade 12 or a GED is the basic requirement....regulatory work is memorization of legislation and an application of said law. There are indeed some truly wonderful and sincere law enforcement officers, and I thank them for their service,...but in the end, they only arrest and charge,...they do not convict.
tomcatwarne: re face book.Would any have suspected it, but now it appears to be official: police departments refuse to hire applicants with high IQ scores.
Critics of law enforcement have long suggested that police officers tend to be selected for their lack of critical thinking, but news that department hiring processes officially disqualify high-scoring applicants might still come as a shock to many.
While a rare exception to the rule might slip through the cracks, if you are too smart, police departments simply won’t hire you.
This policy became solidified in a federal ruling dating back almost a decade and a half ago. The ruling came with little fanfare from the mainstream, corporate media, who didn’t apparent find it to be newsworthy.
In 1999, a Federal judge dismissed a lawsuit by an applicant to the New London, Connecticut police department who was barred from being hired after successfully taking the intelligence portion of the police examinations. The disqualification came because he had scored “too high” on the test. The New London Police Department made it clear that they did not want the “bottom of the barrel” when it came to intelligence, but they also didn’t want anyone who was “too smart” either.
This little-known ruling was made public back in September of the same year. Judge Peter C. Dorsey of the United States District Court in New Haven, Connecticut confirmed that the plaintiff, Robert Jordan, 48, who holds a bachelor’s degree in literature, had been denied an opportunity to even interview for a job with the department, for no reason other than his high test scores.
Judge Dorsey ruled in favor of the department, saying that Mr. Jordan was offered no protection under the law in this case. There is no legal protection given to intelligent people from discriminatory hiring practices by individual police departments, Dorsey explained. The judge continued, explaining that police departments held all applicants to this same standard and thus they rejected all applicants who scored high. As a result, this could not be held as discriminatory in nature.
The next time you cross paths with a law enforcement officer and wonder how anyone so stupid managed to get hired by their department, now you know that this stupidity might in fact be the very thing that qualified them for the job.
Its not only in the US , very evident here . Is there a link for this .
epirb: Its not only in the US , very evident here . Is there a link for this .
Yes,..it is prevalent worldwide,,, I know of no link....but I am cognizant that police have an EXTREMELY difficult job,...and I thank them for their service...unless it involves me!
Da_Moose: Let me grab my FLAME proof clothing before I post....
There is a slight shard of truth to these statements. Grade 12 or a GED is the basic requirement....regulatory work is memorization of legislation and an application of said law. There are indeed some truly wonderful and sincere law enforcement officers, and I thank them for their service,...but in the end, they only arrest and charge,...they do not convict.
Surely not, they are also there to solve crimes, to ensure by due process they have sought and found the evidence that can convict a felon.
So by following this law there would have been no Columbo, no Perry Mason and worse no Sherlock Holmes!!!
Da_Moose: Yes,..it is prevalent worldwide,,, I know of no link....but I am cognizant that police have an EXTREMELY difficult job,...and I thank them for their service...unless it involves me!
Agreed.
And Tom, it must be pretty much the same in the military. I rememeber an attache of your country to mine saying: the military does not need thinkers, what we need is those that follow orders
tomcatwarne: re face book.Would any have suspected it, but now it appears to be official: police departments refuse to hire applicants with high IQ scores.
Critics of law enforcement have long suggested that police officers tend to be selected for their lack of critical thinking, but news that department hiring processes officially disqualify high-scoring applicants might still come as a shock to many.
While a rare exception to the rule might slip through the cracks, if you are too smart, police departments simply won’t hire you.
This policy became solidified in a federal ruling dating back almost a decade and a half ago. The ruling came with little fanfare from the mainstream, corporate media, who didn’t apparent find it to be newsworthy.
In 1999, a Federal judge dismissed a lawsuit by an applicant to the New London, Connecticut police department who was barred from being hired after successfully taking the intelligence portion of the police examinations. The disqualification came because he had scored “too high” on the test. The New London Police Department made it clear that they did not want the “bottom of the barrel” when it came to intelligence, but they also didn’t want anyone who was “too smart” either.
This little-known ruling was made public back in September of the same year. Judge Peter C. Dorsey of the United States District Court in New Haven, Connecticut confirmed that the plaintiff, Robert Jordan, 48, who holds a bachelor’s degree in literature, had been denied an opportunity to even interview for a job with the department, for no reason other than his high test scores.
Judge Dorsey ruled in favor of the department, saying that Mr. Jordan was offered no protection under the law in this case. There is no legal protection given to intelligent people from discriminatory hiring practices by individual police departments, Dorsey explained. The judge continued, explaining that police departments held all applicants to this same standard and thus they rejected all applicants who scored high. As a result, this could not be held as discriminatory in nature.
The next time you cross paths with a law enforcement officer and wonder how anyone so stupid managed to get hired by their department, now you know that this stupidity might in fact be the very thing that qualified them for the job.
Not in all the segment ...there are those who are intended to scare the crows and the ones who smells where the crows are... loopholes can be noticed but in general populations feel some sort of assurance when they are around... i 'm saying this from my post station..somewhere..i have doubts...each country to it's own recruits...
Da_Moose: ...but in the end, they only arrest and charge,...
Really...?
I reckon one measure of how effective a police officer is, is perhaps their ability to manage difficult social situations. I've come across some very highly skilled officers in more than one setting.
However, whilst IQ is not a measure of social/psychology skills, a high IQ score is not a measure of the lack of them. I wonder if there is more to this story beyond sensationalism...in other words, I wonder if this excerpt might be critcised for the same failing as it's criticising. There would be an irony in not having the intelligence to make that link, eh?
lifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
jac_the_gripper: Really...?
I reckon one measure of how effective a police officer is, is perhaps their ability to manage difficult social situations. I've come across some very highly skilled officers in more than one setting.
However, whilst IQ is not a measure of social/psychology skills, a high IQ score is not a measure of the lack of them. I wonder if there is more to this story beyond sensationalism...in other words, I wonder if this excerpt might be critcised for the same failing as it's criticising.
There would be an irony in not having the intelligence to make that link, eh?
seen homeland insecurity hirin walmart parkin lot guards south of here. dont if if theres links or not. seen homeland insecurity and TSA toilet seat administration hire some real deadbeats, untrained, no character,
blue states are corrupt they dont want folks with morals anymore, moral people cant be corrupted. moral people would start cleanin house.
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Would any have suspected it, but now it appears to be official: police departments refuse to hire applicants with high IQ scores.
Critics of law enforcement have long suggested that police officers tend to be selected for their lack of critical thinking, but news that department hiring processes officially disqualify high-scoring applicants might still come as a shock to many.
While a rare exception to the rule might slip through the cracks, if you are too smart, police departments simply won’t hire you.
This policy became solidified in a federal ruling dating back almost a decade and a half ago. The ruling came with little fanfare from the mainstream, corporate media, who didn’t apparent find it to be newsworthy.
In 1999, a Federal judge dismissed a lawsuit by an applicant to the New London, Connecticut police department who was barred from being hired after successfully taking the intelligence portion of the police examinations. The disqualification came because he had scored “too high” on the test. The New London Police Department made it clear that they did not want the “bottom of the barrel” when it came to intelligence, but they also didn’t want anyone who was “too smart” either.
This little-known ruling was made public back in September of the same year. Judge Peter C. Dorsey of the United States District Court in New Haven, Connecticut confirmed that the plaintiff, Robert Jordan, 48, who holds a bachelor’s degree in literature, had been denied an opportunity to even interview for a job with the department, for no reason other than his high test scores.
Judge Dorsey ruled in favor of the department, saying that Mr. Jordan was offered no protection under the law in this case. There is no legal protection given to intelligent people from discriminatory hiring practices by individual police departments, Dorsey explained. The judge continued, explaining that police departments held all applicants to this same standard and thus they rejected all applicants who scored high. As a result, this could not be held as discriminatory in nature.
The next time you cross paths with a law enforcement officer and wonder how anyone so stupid managed to get hired by their department, now you know that this stupidity might in fact be the very thing that qualified them for the job.