Prime minister Cameron resigns. ( Archived) (88)

Jun 24, 2016 6:37 PM CST Prime minister Cameron resigns.
lreland12345
lreland12345lreland12345mullingar, Westmeath Ireland33 Threads 118 Posts
He be ok he get well paid won't lose sleep over lt
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Jun 24, 2016 6:39 PM CST Prime minister Cameron resigns.
xxDandelionxx
xxDandelionxxxxDandelionxxunknown, Hampshire, England UK8 Threads 2,525 Posts
epirb: Bet Boris never thought he may be PM in a month or two . Big risk is Osborne undermining the referendum , he has to go to , or given another job . Yeah , I hope the EU spring is better than the arab one .


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Jun 24, 2016 6:50 PM CST Prime minister Cameron resigns.
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
tomcatwarne: "The British people have voted to leave the European Union and their will must be respected," Mr Cameron said.

"The country requires fresh leadership to take it in this direction," added the PM.

"I will do everything I can as Prime Minister to steady the ship over the coming weeks and months, but I don't think it would be right for me to try to be the captain that steers our country to its next destination.

"This is not a decision I've taken lightly but I do believe it's in the national interest to have a period of stability and then the new leadership required."

Mr Cameron said he had fought the "only way I know how ... head, heart and soul" to stay in the EU but that voters had chosen a different path.

With tears in his eyes, his voice cracking, the PM said: "I love this country, and I feel honoured to have served it and I will do everything I can in the future to help this great country succeed."

He then turned away, took his wife's hand and headed back into Number 10.


I wish Obama would follow in Cameron's footsteps.

Per Ted Cruz...

The results should serve as a wake-up call for internationalist bureaucrats from Brussels to Washington, D.C., that some free nations still wish to preserve their national sovereignty.”

“The United States can learn from the referendum and attend to the issues of security, immigration and economic autonomy that drove this historic vote.”
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Jun 24, 2016 6:55 PM CST Prime minister Cameron resigns.
tomcatwarne: "The British people have voted to leave the European Union and their will must be respected," Mr Cameron said.

"The country requires fresh leadership to take it in this direction," added the PM.

"I will do everything I can as Prime Minister to steady the ship over the coming weeks and months, but I don't think it would be right for me to try to be the captain that steers our country to its next destination.

"This is not a decision I've taken lightly but I do believe it's in the national interest to have a period of stability and then the new leadership required."

Mr Cameron said he had fought the "only way I know how ... head, heart and soul" to stay in the EU but that voters had chosen a different path.

With tears in his eyes, his voice cracking, the PM said: "I love this country, and I feel honoured to have served it and I will do everything I can in the future to help this great country succeed."

He then turned away, took his wife's hand and headed back into Number 10.
This is a serious question, so (whoever) may be able to just answer it in the most fair way, please do so:

1. What are the 'Pro's" of being in the EU, for Great Britain?
2. What are the "Con's" of being in the EU, for Great Britain?
3. Because there are some responses from Australia and New Zealand, is this decision (EU) in any way impactive of those countries, and if so, how so?
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Jun 24, 2016 7:07 PM CST Prime minister Cameron resigns.
tomcatwarne: "The British people have voted to leave the European Union and their will must be respected," Mr Cameron said.

"The country requires fresh leadership to take it in this direction," added the PM.

"I will do everything I can as Prime Minister to steady the ship over the coming weeks and months, but I don't think it would be right for me to try to be the captain that steers our country to its next destination.

"This is not a decision I've taken lightly but I do believe it's in the national interest to have a period of stability and then the new leadership required."

Mr Cameron said he had fought the "only way I know how ... head, heart and soul" to stay in the EU but that voters had chosen a different path.

With tears in his eyes, his voice cracking, the PM said: "I love this country, and I feel honoured to have served it and I will do everything I can in the future to help this great country succeed."

He then turned away, took his wife's hand and headed back into Number 10.
I just have to add this observation/opinion, if you don't mind:

When a politician is working within a democratic climate, then he or she needs to be accepting of the will of constituents. In this case, the voters decided differently than what Cameron apparently wanted. But it is the epitome of irony and juvenile indiscretion for a managing leader to react this way. In short, since he serves(ed) at the will of the people, then he needs to adjust to their prerogatives, not the other way around. Otherwise, why bother to have democratic process?
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Jun 24, 2016 10:42 PM CST Prime minister Cameron resigns.
That's not the only dishonesty floating about

“ will not lead to any sort of a global catastrophe. Certainly, we will monitor the situation and if need be adjust both our economic policy and our relations with European partners,” Putin continued.
He also said that Russia is ready to start a functional dialogue concerning mutual sanctions, and if the EU will make concessions, Russia will do the same.

“I don’t think will influence our relations with the EU concerning sanctions. We were not the ones who started the sanctions in the first place, we only answered the actions taken against our country,” he stated.



I agree with this statement

Russia analyst Martin McCauley believes that naming Russia and Vladimir Putin as part of the reason for the Brexit can be explained by the fact that the UK government is reluctant to face the truth and acknowledge its own failures in economic, social and political areas.




Because to propotion blame onto Putin (not only Britain but Australia USA etc to) blame on Putin and subsequent sanction's from those political mind games with truth in respect to the downing of MH17, which hopefully now will get redress and Britain along with Greece and EU community to will greatly benefit from truth coming to the front and therefore more stable economic across whole world
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Jun 24, 2016 11:31 PM CST Prime minister Cameron resigns.
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
Like I said Cameron will go...
He will never steady the ship or like he says be Captain, that was your Leader!
How quick they fall.

More to evolve.

About time people need to wake up to changes.
Remember he knew.

What did he hold back?

dunno

Yeh right!
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Jun 25, 2016 1:56 AM CST Prime minister Cameron resigns.
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
rohaan: This is a serious question, so (whoever) may be able to just answer it in the most fair way, please do so:

1. What are the 'Pro's" of being in the EU, for Great Britain?
2. What are the "Con's" of being in the EU, for Great Britain?
3. Because there are some responses from Australia and New Zealand, is this decision (EU) in any way impactive of those countries, and if so, how so?
There is hope that free travel between UK ,Aussie ,Canada and NZ , in time . Rights of UK citizen's were slowly being extinguished , enough in itself to support UK leaving the EU .
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Jun 25, 2016 2:00 AM CST Prime minister Cameron resigns.
He got to close to US of A, same here in Australia. The people here are not in anyway against USA but certainly many of use find gross dishonesty in international affairs utterly unacceptable.

In relation to Ukraine, MH17 that was ordered out of safe corridor by west Ukraine air controller. A matter firstly a Malaysian Airline senior Official discussed detail with Putin in Moscow three or four days after missile took MH17 down and then later the French President also took stock of what had actually occurred, followed in time by Angela Merkel.

USA (supported by Cameron) increased attacks on Putin and NATO increased its provocations against Russia including scations.
The USA and UK attacked Angela Merkel with the Volkswagen emissions scandal


And this also appeared:
7 February 2014:

Ukraine crisis: Transcript of leaked Nuland-Pyatt call

An apparently bugged phone conversation in which a senior US diplomat disparages the EU over the Ukraine crisis has been posted online. The alleged conversation between Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and the US Ambassador to Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt, appeared on YouTube

The US says that it is working with all sides in the crisis to reach a peaceful solution, noting that "ultimately it is up to the Ukrainian people to decide their future". However this transcript suggests that the US has very clear ideas about what the outcome should be and is striving to achieve these goals. Russian spokesmen have insisted that the US is meddling in Ukraine's affairs - no more than Moscow, the cynic might say - but Washington clearly has its own game-plan. The clear purpose in leaking this conversation is to embarrass Washington and for audiences susceptible to Moscow's message to portray the US as interfering in Ukraine's domestic affairs.

The EU is divided and to some extent hesitant about picking a fight with Moscow. It certainly cannot win a short-term battle for Ukraine's affections with Moscow - it just does not have the cash inducements available. The EU has sought to play a longer game; banking on its attraction over time. But the US clearly is determined to take a much more activist role.

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Jun 25, 2016 2:06 AM CST Prime minister Cameron resigns.
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA4,825 Posts
epirb: There is hope that free travel between UK ,Aussie ,Canada and NZ , in time . Rights of UK citizen's were slowly being extinguished , enough in itself to support UK leaving the EU .


it's not like they have a mandate for change.

the vote could have went either way.

just about half wanted to stay part of the union.
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Jun 25, 2016 2:06 AM CST Prime minister Cameron resigns.
MikeD12
MikeD12MikeD12Broadstairs, Kent, England UK16 Threads 2 Polls 2,809 Posts
xxDandelionxx: Yes, quite right too. He has been pathetic - definitely not up to his job as many of the comments have been, even from his own party members.Lack-lustre doesn't even cover it!


Cor"bean" shot himself in the bloody foot when he changed sides
GO GO GO - But the Sillibands are no F in good either!! doh very mad
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Jun 25, 2016 2:09 AM CST Prime minister Cameron resigns.
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
MikeD12: Read yer History Luv - We did and they lost


right you are then!
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Jun 25, 2016 2:16 AM CST Prime minister Cameron resigns.
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
purr4mance: it's not like they have a mandate for change.

the vote could have went either way.

just about half wanted to stay part of the union.
I know the margin , first past the post system one vote carries the day . if the others don't like it they are free to leave , sure Germany will have them or Iraq .
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Jun 25, 2016 2:23 AM CST Prime minister Cameron resigns.
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA4,825 Posts
epirb: I know the margin , first past the post system one vote carries the day . if the others don't like it they are free to leave , sure Germany will have them or Iraq .


what are your thoughts of the boomers effing over the younger generation AGAIN.

from what i understand they have to live with the results for the next 69 years. they will be the ones that suffer. it's a big bad world out their for such a tiny island. and obama says you will have to get in line.
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Jun 25, 2016 2:24 AM CST Prime minister Cameron resigns.
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA4,825 Posts
purr4mance: what are your thoughts of the boomers effing over the younger generation AGAIN.

from what i understand they have to live with the results for the next 69 years. they will be the ones that suffer. it's a big bad world out their for such a tiny island. and obama says you will have to get in line.


there
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Jun 25, 2016 2:31 AM CST Prime minister Cameron resigns.
MikeD12
MikeD12MikeD12Broadstairs, Kent, England UK16 Threads 2 Polls 2,809 Posts
Now we don't have to spit out 350 Million Quid every week That should immediately be put back into our National accounts and redistributed.

The Tories that exist here now have been banging on that they are for and of "the people" when we know they are NOT. The have have not wealth gap has always been deliberately maintained every time they have been elected as a method of Control throughout history.

IMO The first thing that should be done - And it could be if we stood up and forced the politicians to do it now we have taken command again.

500,000 pounds payed out tax free to everyone with a National Insurance No and with a proven total Income of less than the national average, currently stated as 27,500 pounds per year.

That would not even be felt and make everyone here happy for starters
The next two weeks 350 million should go direct to the NHS with another to Medical Research and Development
The fourth week - Education. Free student degree and training fees.
We would not even feel it and it will do more good than being misspent by the EU parasites and fascists that we just dumped.
Next weeks - 350M to the Disabled, the next Billion to Free Homes for the needy to get the homeless off the streets and provide proper accommodation.

Prosecute all private Landlords who charge tenants more than a national set rate. Those are just some of the essential needs what we should be fighting for now
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Jun 25, 2016 2:34 AM CST Prime minister Cameron resigns.
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
purr4mance: what are your thoughts of the boomers effing over the younger generation AGAIN.

from what i understand they have to live with the results for the next 69 years. they will be the ones that suffer. it's a big bad world out their for such a tiny island. and obama says you will have to get in line.
freedom , that little army that Junker is wanting is not for fighting Russians . There is an existing trade agreement , GATT , it still stands . UK is a big market , EU needs them just as much as they need the EU .
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Jun 25, 2016 2:41 AM CST Prime minister Cameron resigns.
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA4,825 Posts
alongside the economy and immigration, the NHS has emerged as a key battleground in the EU debate. That is because the leave campaign decided early on to deploy the health service as a core argument in their plea to voters. Leave leaders Boris Johnson and Michael Gove have said consistently since campaigning began in April that Brexit could free up up to £8bn extra a year to spend on the NHS.

Leaving the EU would not, however, provide more money to spend on the NHS, according to the Institute of Fiscal Studies. “Rather, it would leave us spending less on public services, or taxing more, or borrowing more.”

Labour has dismissed the leave campaign’s claim of a bigger NHS budget as “misleading, simplistic and complete and utter nonsense”. Its own analysis concludes that a post-Brexit economic slump could force the government to cut the Department of Health’s budget by £10.5bn – the equivalent of every hospital in England having to shed 1,000 nurses and 155 doctors.

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Jun 25, 2016 2:45 AM CST Prime minister Cameron resigns.
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA4,825 Posts
epirb: freedom , that little army that Junker is wanting is not for fighting Russians . There is an existing trade agreement , GATT , it still stands . UK is a big market , EU needs them just as much as they need the EU .


now i thought you were against trade agreementsconfused

nafta, tpp but gatt is okay ? why one and not all ?
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Jun 25, 2016 2:47 AM CST Prime minister Cameron resigns.
purr4mance
purr4mancepurr4manceCleveland, Ohio USA4,825 Posts
purr4mance: now i thought you were against trade agreements

nafta, tpp but gatt is okay ? why one and not all ?


free trade

markets have to be opened.

not protectionism..
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