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May 13, 2018 9:51 AM CST Never forgive a traitor, she really was a traitor, "Hanoi Jane"
britishcolumbian
britishcolumbianbritishcolumbianunknown, British Columbia Canada153 Threads 894 Posts
Good question rainbow, why did Tito get away with it? Maybe someone can answer you.........wave
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May 13, 2018 10:03 AM CST Never forgive a traitor, she really was a traitor, "Hanoi Jane"
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
britishcolumbian: Good question rainbow, why did Tito get away with it? Maybe someone can answer you.........
I hope someone will attempt to answer me but I doubt that anyone made proper reasurch to this "mystery puzzle. "
It is legitimate question: why was Vietnam communist tottaly percived as enemies and not forma Yugoslav system & communist dictator Tito ?
From this question comes many other questions about validity of reason to fight communism in Vietnam. That's my point. wine
Thank you for consideration. wine
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May 13, 2018 11:03 AM CST Never forgive a traitor, she really was a traitor, "Hanoi Jane"
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
rainbowdream2017: I hope someone will attempt to answer me but I doubt that anyone made proper reasurch to this "mystery puzzle. "
It is legitimate question: why was Vietnam communist tottaly percived as enemies and not forma Yugoslav system & communist dictator Tito ?
From this question comes many other questions about validity of reason to fight communism in Vietnam. That's my point.
Thank you for consideration.
Proper research, rainbow.....

This enquiry is talking about two different geopolitical situations; one of these countries only needed a pot to pee in, but the other needed a catheter.

Tito shunned both east and west powers and Yugoslavia had two separate defense plans. One defense plan was to protect against nato, the other to protect against a Warsaw Pact. Tito may have had expansion aspirations to only include Greece and a few other countries but he wasn’t into global communism. The threat never happened.

However in SE Asia...
The U.S. government viewed its involvement in the war as a way to prevent a communist takeover of South Vietnam, as part of the aim of stopping the spread of global communism.

Or ... Money... always follow the money.


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May 13, 2018 1:40 PM CST Never forgive a traitor, she really was a traitor, "Hanoi Jane"
britishcolumbian
britishcolumbianbritishcolumbianunknown, British Columbia Canada153 Threads 894 Posts
Then what about Russia no one ever tried to stop communism there.................wave
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May 13, 2018 1:53 PM CST Never forgive a traitor, she really was a traitor, "Hanoi Jane"
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
britishcolumbian: Then what about Russia no one ever tried to stop communism there.................
Didn’t U.S. General George S. Patton want to do that right at the end of WWII? wave
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May 13, 2018 2:02 PM CST Never forgive a traitor, she really was a traitor, "Hanoi Jane"
raphael119
raphael119raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA19 Threads 3 Polls 5,181 Posts
Miwagi: Here is two of the biggest traitors of the Vietnam war.
Id say the biggest traitor of the Vietnam War Is Donald Trump with his " daddy saved me from Vietnam by getting a doctor and money to bribe and lie about my feet stunt".
His remarks about John McCain are worse than if Trump burned the American flag on camera.barf

The poster must be proud of the slander when they Swiftboated an American hero like Kerry. The Swiftboating was equal to Hanoi Jane for treachery, maybe worse.
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May 13, 2018 2:10 PM CST Never forgive a traitor, she really was a traitor, "Hanoi Jane"
raphael119
raphael119raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA19 Threads 3 Polls 5,181 Posts
britishcolumbian: The story about Jane turnning slips of paper the prisoners gave her with their social security number on it
appears to be not true.
I heard this story so often, saw that scene in a movie, so where did that come from if it was not true?
When I heard it was that the prisoners had given their phone numbers.
Anyway why is that story been around for so long?
Some people believe the war was criminally motivated by the military industrial complex, Eisenhower so eloquently warned us against.dunno


Worst kind of lies and propaganda from both sides of issue.
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May 13, 2018 2:17 PM CST Never forgive a traitor, she really was a traitor, "Hanoi Jane"
raphael119
raphael119raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA19 Threads 3 Polls 5,181 Posts
galrads: Didn’t U.S. General George S. Patton want to do that right at the end of WWII?
Patton wanted to do and pretended to do all kinds of things to aggrandize himself. Got firsthand proof too.
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May 13, 2018 2:27 PM CST Never forgive a traitor, she really was a traitor, "Hanoi Jane"
raphael119: Id say the biggest traitor of the Vietnam War Is Donald Trump with his " daddy saved me from Vietnam by getting a doctor and money to bribe and lie about my feet stunt".
His remarks about John McCain are worse than if Trump burned the American flag on camera.

The poster must be proud of the slander when they Swiftboated an American hero like Kerry. The Swiftboating was equal to Hanoi Jane for treachery, maybe worse.
Kerry a Hero,what are you tripping on Raph?rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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May 13, 2018 2:54 PM CST Never forgive a traitor, she really was a traitor, "Hanoi Jane"
NONSENSE......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,,,,,,,,,,JANE SAVED MANY LIVES/////////GET REAL.......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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May 13, 2018 3:48 PM CST Never forgive a traitor, she really was a traitor, "Hanoi Jane"
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
rainbowdream2017: I am curious ....It seems whirred to me that fighting communism in Vietnam was ok and yet, no one didn't want to fight forma Yugoslav communism but instead western countries fully supported dictator Tito ?
Why political double standard ?
Is it because Tito was an English spy ?
There was only one army that grew within a German occupied country that ever seriously challenged Germany , JANl . Let sleeping dogs lie , Stalin knew so did the western leaders , Tito's boyos were eyeballed in Trieste and Tito had Stalin lean on him to get him to leave , very near to war over it . Tito dangerous barstool .
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May 13, 2018 8:24 PM CST Never forgive a traitor, she really was a traitor, "Hanoi Jane"
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
epirb: There was only one army that grew within a German occupied country that ever seriously challenged Germany , JANl . Let sleeping dogs lie , Stalin knew so did the western leaders , Tito's boyos were eyeballed in Trieste and Tito had Stalin lean on him to get him to leave , very near to war over it . Tito dangerous barstool .
Thanks for honest answer that's the best in your knowladge to give. cheers I respect you for genuine approach, that you didn't tray to excuse bastered Tito or to hide westerners knowladge ! Thank you !
"I remember Trieste, " I was a little girl when I was told that we might be very near to war ... People cleaned the groceries shops preparing for war.

In the name of that sleeping (dangers dog basterd fake Tito) monster, many people died or emigrated, and different nations who were forcefully joined in false deceptive marriage of forma Yugoslavia, deserves the truth, as well we all deserve the truth to learn about deceptions from every side and political games that big boys played with "little countries" to give them ugly present: a spy fake Tito who's forign origin is still " puzzle." Was fake Tito legitimate son of Cherchill or Polish Jew, why UK still doesn't want to disclose all documents, what are they still hiding and giving only "bits of peaces" that acknowladges the fact that fake Tito origin was questionable, that he travelled with fake passport and name from Canada to UK and he was definitelly not from forma Yugoslavia !
All lies didn't just hurt people from forma Yugoslavia which fake Tito ruled with an iron feast, it also still hurts westerners beliefs in their own goverment misslead actions that's going on all the way to Vietnam ... People died for beliefs in what their goverment tells them ! How many young Australians, American, English died in Vietnam ? Was the old amutions that needed to be spent somewhere so let choose Vietnam and make people believe that's for the right ambition to fight communist in Vietnam ? If they truly wanted to squash all communist system, they should get rid off of that bastered Tito too...but he was working for them as multiplay spy and played games with all. laugh
I feel sorry for all people who suffered and died for the idea that was deceptive propaganda from every side....in a different way. sad flower
Do you know that some people in forma Yugoslavia still gives honour to fake Tito anniversaries of death etc.
That fake dead dog still dividing people in forma Yugoslavia countries.
How can people put to rest that dead dog when the whole truth is still hidden by UK, USA - CIA and
Canada ?
He was a clever bastered who didn't left his bones to be where he was supposedly burried but somewhere else in a secret place ... If there's hell, bastered must be in hell burning in eternal fire.

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May 13, 2018 8:36 PM CST Never forgive a traitor, she really was a traitor, "Hanoi Jane"
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
rainbowdream2017: Thanks for honest answer that's the best in your knowladge to give. I respect you for genuine approach, that you didn't tray to excuse bastered Tito or to hide westerners knowladge ! Thank you !
"I remember Trieste, " I was a little girl when I was told that we might be very near to war ... People cleaned the groceries shops preparing for war.

In the name of that sleeping (dangers dog basterd fake Tito) monster, many people died or emigrated, and different nations who were forcefully joined in false deceptive marriage of forma Yugoslavia, deserves the truth, as well we all deserve the truth to learn about deceptions from every side and political games that big boys played with "little countries" to give them ugly present: a spy fake Tito who's forign origin is still " puzzle."
Was fake Tito ILLEGITIMATE son of Cherchill or Polish Jew ?Why UK still doesn't want to disclose all documents, what are they still hiding and giving only "bits of peaces" that acknowladges the fact that fake Tito origin was questionable, that he travelled with fake passport and fake name from Canada to UK and he was definitelly not from forma Yugoslavia !

All lies didn't just hurt people from forma Yugoslavia which fake Tito ruled with an iron feast, it also still hurts westerners beliefs in their own goverment misslead actions that's going on all the way to Vietnam ...
People died for beliefs in what their goverment tells them !
How many young Australians, American, English died in Vietnam ?
Was the old amutions that needed to be spent somewhere so let choose Vietnam and make people believe that's for the right ambition to fight communist in Vietnam ?
If they truly wanted to squash all communist system, they should get rid off of that bastered Tito too...but he was working for them as multiplay spy and played games with all.
I feel sorry for all people who suffered and died for the idea that was deceptive propaganda from every side....in a different way.

Do you know that some people in forma Yugoslavia still gives every year honour to fake Tito anniversary of death etc.
That fake dead dog still dividing people in forma Yugoslavia countries and doesn't give no one peace.

How can people put to rest that dead dog when the whole truth is still hidden by UK, USA - CIA and
Canada ?

He was a clever bastered who didn't left his bones to be where he was supposedly burried but somewhere else in a secret place ... If there's hell, bastered must be in hell burning in eternal fire.
I just corrected some mistakes so please disregard above post. I almost forgotten to add important point.
The NWO was experimenting in forma Yugoslavia system and its connected to what's happening.globally in a present time....We're all connected in this global puzzle, everything happened for a reason that broth us all to where we're now.
Cheers. wine
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May 13, 2018 10:26 PM CST Never forgive a traitor, she really was a traitor, "Hanoi Jane"
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
britishcolumbian: Then what about Russia no one ever tried to stop communism there.................
thumbs up Good question !
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May 13, 2018 10:44 PM CST Never forgive a traitor, she really was a traitor, "Hanoi Jane"
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
galrads: My statement on Tito is based on my ex Croatian in laws opinions. They grieved long time when Tito died.
They didnt know at the time that they grieved for a fake foreign dog spy Tito. laugh
I couldn't help myself laughing, althouth it's not really funny to be sucked in massive delusions, growing up indoctrinated by communist crup, wearing red scarf in communist celebrations with red star on crup communist hat and singing to forign fake dog how we all admire him. rolling on the floor laughing If I sell forign dog to your country, would you be upset when discovering the truth of deceptions that all of you're western Goverment elite supported for their own interest but not the interest of the people in question who were effected by this fake criminal dictator Tito ?

We all have a reason to be upset with lies from all sides. cheers
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May 14, 2018 1:42 AM CST Never forgive a traitor, she really was a traitor, "Hanoi Jane"
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
galrads: Proper research, rainbow.....

This enquiry is talking about two different geopolitical situations; one of these countries only needed a pot to pee in, but the other needed a catheter.

Tito shunned both east and west powers and Yugoslavia had two separate defense plans. One defense plan was to protect against nato, the other to protect against a Warsaw Pact. Tito may have had expansion aspirations to only include Greece and a few other countries but he wasn’t into global communism. The threat never happened.

However in SE Asia...
The U.S. government viewed its involvement in the war as a way to prevent a communist takeover of South Vietnam, as part of the aim of stopping the spread of global communism.

Or ... Money... always follow the money
.
Tito’s Yugoslavia could have dealt with WW2 atrocities in a rehabiltive way, instead of cover up and obstruction, and there was no reason Yugoslavia could not have been both socialist and democratic.
Who ever this Walter-Tito was – he will be remembered as indisputable tyrant and mass murderer, specially of Croats and will forever be ranked the 9th mass murderer of the 20th century !
Both, first and second Yugoslavia, were made by the evil, for the evil and ended in evil.
Hope Yugoslavia stay buried on the rubbish heap of history forever more along with all those that supported the monstrosity.
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Josip Broz Tito received a total of 119 awards and decorations from 60 countries around the world (59 countries and Yugoslavia). 21 decorations were from Yugoslavia itself, 18 having been awarded once, and the Order of the National Hero on three occasions. Of the 98 international awards and decorations, 92 were received once, and three on two occasions (Order of the White Lion, Polonia Restituta, and Karl Marx). The most notable awards included the French Legion of Honour and National Order of Merit, the British Order of the Bath, the Soviet Order of Lenin, the Japanese Order of the Chrysanthemum, the German Federal Cross of Merit, and the Order of Merit of Italy.Some of the other foreign awards and decorations of Josip Broz Tito include Order of Merit, Order of Prince Henry, Order of Independence, Order of Merit, Order of the Nile, Order of the Condor of the Andes, Order of the Star of Romania, Order of the Gold Lion of the House of Nassau, Croix de Guerre, Order of the Cross of Grunwald, Czechoslovak War Cross, Decoration of Honour for Services to the Republic of Austria, Military Order of the White Lion, Nishan-e-Pakistan, Order of Al Rafidain, Order of Carol I, Order of Georgi Dimitrov, Order of Karl Marx, Order of Manuel Amador Guerrero, Order of Michael the Brave, Order of Pahlavi, Order of Sukhbaatar, Order of Suvorov, Order of the Liberator, Order of the October Revolution, Order of the Queen of Sheba, Order of the White Rose of Finland, Partisan Cross, Royal Order of Cambodia and Star of People's Friendship and Thiri Thudhamma Thingaha.

Who gave this fake monster so much medals ? mumbling
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May 14, 2018 1:51 AM CST Never forgive a traitor, she really was a traitor, "Hanoi Jane"
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
rainbowdream2017: Tito’s Yugoslavia could have dealt with WW2 atrocities in a rehabiltive way, instead of cover up and obstruction, and there was no reason Yugoslavia could not have been both socialist and democratic.
Who ever this Walter-Tito was – he will be remembered as indisputable tyrant and mass murderer, specially of Croats and will forever be ranked the 9th mass murderer of the 20th century !
Both, first and second Yugoslavia, were made by the evil, for the evil and ended in evil.
Hope Yugoslavia stay buried on the rubbish heap of history forever more along with all those that supported the monstrosity.

Josip Broz Tito received a total of 119 awards and decorations from 60 countries around the world (59 countries and Yugoslavia). 21 decorations were from Yugoslavia itself, 18 having been awarded once, and the Order of the National Hero on three occasions. Of the 98 international awards and decorations, 92 were received once, and three on two occasions (Order of the White Lion, Polonia Restituta, and Karl Marx). The most notable awards included the French Legion of Honour and National Order of Merit, the British Order of the Bath, the Soviet Order of Lenin, the Japanese Order of the Chrysanthemum, the German Federal Cross of Merit, and the Order of Merit of Italy.Some of the other foreign awards and decorations of Josip Broz Tito include Order of Merit, Order of Prince Henry, Order of Independence, Order of Merit, Order of the Nile, Order of the Condor of the Andes, Order of the Star of Romania, Order of the Gold Lion of the House of Nassau, Croix de Guerre, Order of the Cross of Grunwald, Czechoslovak War Cross, Decoration of Honour for Services to the Republic of Austria, Military Order of the White Lion, Nishan-e-Pakistan, Order of Al Rafidain, Order of Carol I, Order of Georgi Dimitrov, Order of Karl Marx, Order of Manuel Amador Guerrero, Order of Michael the Brave, Order of Pahlavi, Order of Sukhbaatar, Order of Suvorov, Order of the Liberator, Order of the October Revolution, Order of the Queen of Sheba, Order of the White Rose of Finland, Partisan Cross, Royal Order of Cambodia and Star of People's Friendship and Thiri Thudhamma Thingaha.

Who gave this fake monster so much medals ?
what I missed to say if the western allies had tried to take him out they would have lost .
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rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts

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Canadian citizen fake name Spiridona Mekasa



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May 14, 2018 2:06 AM CST Never forgive a traitor, she really was a traitor, "Hanoi Jane"
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
epirb: what I missed to say if the western allies had tried to take him out they would have lost .
: Was that monster too clever for all ? dunno
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May 14, 2018 2:11 AM CST Never forgive a traitor, she really was a traitor, "Hanoi Jane"
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
rainbowdream2017: : Was that monster too clever for all ?
Dangerous barstool with a lot of dangerous barstools around him who knew what they were doing .
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