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Oct 4, 2018 7:37 AM CST Fight for love.
deedee123xo
deedee123xodeedee123xoLimerick, Ireland15 Threads 3,538 Posts
In a relationship how do you make the distinction between what you consider fighting for love or to simply walk away.


Getting to know someone and all their sides is quite difficult and can take a lifetime.

Do you stick with someone through thick and thin or do you run when the going gets tough and how do you decide when enough is enough.
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Oct 4, 2018 7:45 AM CST Fight for love.
When the damage is irreparable, then I leave.
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Oct 4, 2018 7:49 AM CST Fight for love.
Arthur_Sixpence
Arthur_SixpenceArthur_SixpenceEnnis, Clare Ireland51 Threads 4 Polls 1,001 Posts
deedee123xo: In a relationship how do you make the distinction between what you consider fighting for love or to simply walk away.


Getting to know someone and all their sides is quite difficult and can take a lifetime.

Do you stick with someone through thick and thin or do you run when the going gets tough and how do you decide when enough is enough.
This will sort the men from the boys...
You'll be doing well to get open replies, but fair feks to you for getting it going...
My stories (yes, there's more than one) would paint me as a downright failure in relationships, but circumstances are as particular as the people in who's orbits they occur... I've remained sane by a combination of putting myself first and being dumped... Relationships that truly last are a rare thing in this plastic age... My present status has mellowed me, made me come to expect less and offer more...and my work has drastically changed my mental outlook and appreciation of the lives of others... Whether that means I'd be of stronger moral fibre going forward would remain to be seen, but it couldn't be worse than my past....
Good luck with this topic, definitely a subject with real meat on the bones...
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Oct 4, 2018 7:50 AM CST Fight for love.
deedee123xo
deedee123xodeedee123xoLimerick, Ireland15 Threads 3,538 Posts
Track16: When the damage is irreparable, then I leave.
What do you consider to be irreparable.....I get trust and cheating are the main ones and they are deal breakers for me.

But when someone has slight difficulties with relationships and communication isn't the best with them...do you try to show them compassion and stick with them.
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Oct 4, 2018 7:52 AM CST Fight for love.
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
deedee123xo: In a relationship how do you make the distinction between what you consider fighting for love or to simply walk away.


Getting to know someone and all their sides is quite difficult and can take a lifetime.

Do you stick with someone through thick and thin or do you run when the going gets tough and how do you decide when enough is enough.
Falling in love can happen in the blink of an eye, getting to know the person you have fallen in love with, and getting to love them can take time and perseverance.

The English , on the whole , fall in love and are devoted to their women.


The most famous for example is the king who gave up his kingdom for love.heart beating
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Oct 4, 2018 7:56 AM CST Fight for love.
deedee123xo: What do you consider to be irreparable.....I get trust and cheating are the main ones and they are deal breakers for me.

But when someone has slight difficulties with relationships and communication isn't the best with them...do you try to show them compassion and stick with them.
You can work through the difficulties if both is willing to work on them. As long as there is even a little effort from the other side, I'll stay.

Irreparable is the point where it could be something like cheating but it can also be the result of a long time with no relationship to speak of, yes you may be together but it becomes an arrangement more than a relationship. If you leave yourself so long in a relationship like that, it becomes toxic.
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Oct 4, 2018 8:01 AM CST Fight for love.
deedee123xo
deedee123xodeedee123xoLimerick, Ireland15 Threads 3,538 Posts
aries1234: Falling in love can happen in the blink of an eye, getting to know the person you have fallen in love with, and getting to love them can take time and perseverance.

The English , on the whole , fall in love and are devoted to their women.


The most famous for example is the king who gave up his kingdom for love.
Yes especially in his era it would have been a even bigger deal than it would be nowadays....to imagine you can't marry a divorcee is madness...glad he chose her over his country...it was possibly the turning point of changing the behaviours in that family.
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Oct 4, 2018 8:04 AM CST Fight for love.
deedee123xo
deedee123xodeedee123xoLimerick, Ireland15 Threads 3,538 Posts
Track16: You can work through the difficulties if both is willing to work on them. As long as there is even a little effort from the other side, I'll stay.

Irreparable is the point where it could be something like cheating but it can also be the result of a long time with no relationship to speak of, yes you may be together but it becomes an arrangement more than a relationship. If you leave yourself so long in a relationship like that, it becomes toxic.
Let's say it's an alcoholic....love isn't the question...but the addiction has taken over and stopped them from having the ability to maintain an semblence of a relationship....how long is long enough to stick with them through that addiction.

How can you put a time frame on helping someone.
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Oct 4, 2018 8:09 AM CST Fight for love.
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
deedee123xo: Yes especially in his era it would have been a even bigger deal than it would be nowadays....to imagine you can't marry a divorcee is madness...glad he chose her over his country...it was possibly the turning point of changing the behaviours in that family.
Yes they are survivors, divorcées get a better press now. And what about young Harry, marrying a girl of black heritage once again for love. you can see he is devoted , and the English people accept her , because she is Harry's choice.

They sat love is the most powerful emotion in the universe, as you know i am an incurable romantic,I hope you have a successful thread with this one DEE.wine hug teddybear
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Oct 4, 2018 8:11 AM CST Fight for love.
deedee123xo: Let's say it's an alcoholic....love isn't the question...but the addiction has taken over and stopped them from having the ability to maintain an semblence of a relationship....how long is long enough to stick with them through that addiction.

How can you put a time frame on helping someone.
You can't put a time frame on it. Its when the feeling is gone whether it happens sooner or later. If I was a alcoholic who was willing to at least try, I wouldn't care if she got off it or not, I would stay simply because she was at least aware of it.

If however I was with someone who was abusive and unwilling to even admit they had a problem, there is no way you can forge a relationship out of that. Even if I still had feeling, I would still leave once I was 100% sure that she had no intention of trying.
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Oct 4, 2018 8:12 AM CST Fight for love.
Track16: You can't put a time frame on it. Its when the feeling is gone whether it happens sooner or later. If I was a alcoholic who was willing to at least try, I wouldn't care if she got off it or not, I would stay simply because she was at least aware of it.

If however I was with someone who was abusive and unwilling to even admit they had a problem, there is no way you can forge a relationship out of that. Even if I still had feeling, I would still leave once I was 100% sure that she had no intention of trying.
If I was WITH an alcoholic
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Oct 4, 2018 8:14 AM CST Fight for love.
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
deedee123xo: In a relationship how do you make the distinction between what you consider fighting for love or to simply walk away.


Getting to know someone and all their sides is quite difficult and can take a lifetime.

Do you stick with someone through thick and thin or do you run when the going gets tough and how do you decide when enough is enough.
le

First you "stick",thinking the going is manageable,then you "tolerate" when the going gets tough,
Then comes the BIG decision,"enough is enough",to hell with you,as NO-ONE is going
to make my life miserable.-
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Oct 4, 2018 8:19 AM CST Fight for love.
deedee123xo
deedee123xodeedee123xoLimerick, Ireland15 Threads 3,538 Posts
Track16: You can't put a time frame on it. Its when the feeling is gone whether it happens sooner or later. If I was a alcoholic who was willing to at least try, I wouldn't care if she got off it or not, I would stay simply because she was at least aware of it.

If however I was with someone who was abusive and unwilling to even admit they had a problem, there is no way you can forge a relationship out of that. Even if I still had feeling, I would still leave once I was 100% sure that she had no intention of trying.
I agree with that....but what if they don't see it....do you simply give up on a person because they lack a bit of insight....we all ignore parts of ourselves in the hopes someone will love us regardless...no one is perfect....do you give up on someone because they don't see they are an alcoholic ..when the other person may not see that they are, let's say a bit of a control freak but all along expected to be loved regardless.

Hope that made sense.
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Oct 4, 2018 8:22 AM CST Fight for love.
deedee123xo
deedee123xodeedee123xoLimerick, Ireland15 Threads 3,538 Posts
chris27292729: le

First you "stick",thinking the going is manageable,then you "tolerate" when the going gets tough,
Then comes the BIG decision,"enough is enough",to hell with you,as NO-ONE is going
to make my life miserable.-
We all make ourselves miserable though, in some degree, even if it isn't self evident...take for instance we are all here making ourselves miserable in the hopes of finding someone...in the hopes of trying to get through to someone an opinion without an argument..yet we don't give up on this place....is it considered a good trait to stick with someone to the very end even though they may have a major flaw...or is it better to walk away.
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Oct 4, 2018 8:32 AM CST Fight for love.
deedee123xo: I agree with that....but what if they don't see it....do you simply give up on a person because they lack a bit of insight....we all ignore parts of ourselves in the hopes someone will love us regardless...no one is perfect....do you give up on someone because they don't see they are an alcoholic ..when the other person may not see that they are, let's say a bit of a control freak but all along expected to be loved regardless.

Hope that made sense.
I am not sure if I can give a definitive answer because I think it would all depend on you, the other person, and the situation. If its someone you really fell hard for, you will probably have more tolerance than sayif its someone who no doubt you love, but not as strongly as you have others.
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Oct 4, 2018 8:33 AM CST Fight for love.
Bearwoman
BearwomanBearwomanNorthgate, Ohio USA9 Threads 3,267 Posts
I stuck by my late husband for about 27 years up until he passed from lung cancer.He passed back in 2007.
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Oct 4, 2018 8:39 AM CST Fight for love.
deedee123xo
deedee123xodeedee123xoLimerick, Ireland15 Threads 3,538 Posts
Track16: I am not sure if I can give a definitive answer because I think it would all depend on you, the other person, and the situation. If its someone you really fell hard for, you will probably have more tolerance than sayif its someone who no doubt you love, but not as strongly as you have others.
So love really is the answer to the question...it's the amount of love you feel that gets you through...when it's not necessarily what makes a relationship all on its own.
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Oct 4, 2018 8:39 AM CST Fight for love.
deedee123xo
deedee123xodeedee123xoLimerick, Ireland15 Threads 3,538 Posts
Bearwoman: I stuck by my late husband for about 27 years up until he passed from lung cancer.He passed back in 2007.
You are one of the good ones Bear hug
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Oct 4, 2018 8:41 AM CST Fight for love.
Liers and cheats I would and have walked away from, addiction I think it would depend on many things, have they become abusive are they actively seeking help, are they impacting on the family. I know love is blind but I think eventually it would kill the love.
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Oct 4, 2018 8:50 AM CST Fight for love.
If the bad times outweigh the good times, and the pain and tears are more prevalent than the happy times, then for me, it is time to give myself peace, take the lessons learned with me, and move forward.
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