Why do people try to discredit others - knowing it's made up - stirring trouble? ( Archived) (108)

Mar 7, 2019 3:05 AM CST Why do people try to discredit others - knowing it's made up - stirring trouble?
smiley963
smiley963smiley963Johannesburg, Gauteng South Africa254 Threads 5 Polls 3,651 Posts
Trouble makers should not be allowed on a public website, as they are the same as scammers.

For some or other reason they feel that it will make the thread more interesting / funny / intelligent / enjoyable!!!! Insulting people in real life, is not allowed, why is it then allowed on a public website, which is world wide?

Most people just shrug it off, as stupidity, but some people actually will start believing it over a period of time. It is called defamation of character, disregarding that it might have been said as a joke, which most of the time it isn't.

Should this type of scamming be allowed?
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Mar 7, 2019 3:26 AM CST Why do people try to discredit others - knowing it's made up - stirring trouble?
HexagonKeySet
HexagonKeySetHexagonKeySetCentral, Waikato New Zealand150 Threads 7 Polls 3,829 Posts
It all depends - some people have anti-social personalities types and some people are too sensitive and need to acquire some resilience.

Who sets the standards?

Usually it's the weak minded, excessively PC individuals who have the most time to squeal and shout ( as theyhave nothing better to do? ) ... the devil makes works for idle hands scenario ?
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Mar 7, 2019 3:34 AM CST Why do people try to discredit others - knowing it's made up - stirring trouble?
Limun
LimunLimunAbidos, Central Serbia Serbia6 Threads 1 Polls 1,923 Posts
oh goody, Snooky created a thread ...after a long long break ...from the forums ,,,maybe she needs a break from being herself ...
find a hobby
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Mar 7, 2019 3:47 AM CST Why do people try to discredit others - knowing it's made up - stirring trouble?
smiley963
smiley963smiley963Johannesburg, Gauteng South Africa254 Threads 5 Polls 3,651 Posts
HexagonKeySet: It all depends - some people have anti-social personalities types and some people are too sensitive and need to acquire some resilience.

Who sets the standards?

Usually it's the weak minded, excessively PC individuals who have the most time to squeal and shout ( as theyhave nothing better to do? ) ... the devil makes works for idle hands scenario ?
You think you set the standards, from this answer. Men like you want all women to be weak-minded, cannot comply to your ridiculous requirements.
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Mar 7, 2019 4:29 AM CST Why do people try to discredit others - knowing it's made up - stirring trouble?
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
smiley963: You think you set the standards, from this answer. Men like you want all women to be weak-minded, cannot comply to your ridiculous requirements.
yawn sleep sleep
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Mar 7, 2019 8:18 AM CST Why do people try to discredit others - knowing it's made up - stirring trouble?
smiley963
smiley963smiley963Johannesburg, Gauteng South Africa254 Threads 5 Polls 3,651 Posts
The chauvinistic person putting all the "thumbs up" on the comments, for all the male participants in this thread:

Please come forward, and show yourself?
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Mar 7, 2019 8:32 AM CST Why do people try to discredit others - knowing it's made up - stirring trouble?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
for all those responding negatively in this thread ... eat my shorts and heed the advice...

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rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 7, 2019 8:37 AM CST Why do people try to discredit others - knowing it's made up - stirring trouble?
smiley963
smiley963smiley963Johannesburg, Gauteng South Africa254 Threads 5 Polls 3,651 Posts
galrads: for all those responding negatively in this thread ... eat my shorts and heed the advice...
Lol. Very funny.

Those who identify with this previous comment, please make you absence known!!!!!!
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Mar 7, 2019 8:39 AM CST Why do people try to discredit others - knowing it's made up - stirring trouble?
HonestlyLoving
HonestlyLovingHonestlyLovingSierra Vista, Arizona USA20 Posts
I don't see this comment as directed towards women, but more explaining why there are some individuals who like to just be mean to others, by putting them down, spreading bad & false rumors, etc.

I agree with the subject of this post, I think it is deplorable that people criticize others and are just plain mean. Usually these types of people, (men, women & some children), have low self esteem and need to do these things just to feel better about themselves. Make them look good to others, when in fact all they are doing is bringing themselves down lower.

If someone does this to you, just ignore the person, who's doing this to you. Don't give them any attention, for that is another thing they want. Just consider the source and move on. Surround yourself with positive, friendly people. In the end you will be the winner... Always! applause
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Mar 7, 2019 8:44 AM CST Why do people try to discredit others - knowing it's made up - stirring trouble?
HonestlyLoving
HonestlyLovingHonestlyLovingSierra Vista, Arizona USA20 Posts
I was referring to Hexagon's comment, (I thought I hit the "Quote" bullet, sorry). But, also agree with Smiley's post about offensive people. Just clarifying my previous reply. wave
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Mar 7, 2019 8:54 AM CST Why do people try to discredit others - knowing it's made up - stirring trouble?
smiley963
smiley963smiley963Johannesburg, Gauteng South Africa254 Threads 5 Polls 3,651 Posts
HonestlyLoving: I was referring to Hexagon's comment, (I thought I hit the "Quote" bullet, sorry). But, also agree with Smiley's post about offensive people. Just clarifying my previous reply.
If you ignore these people, they just get worse, and after a while people will comment:

It must be true, else why is nobody negating it!!!!!!
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Mar 7, 2019 9:53 AM CST Why do people try to discredit others - knowing it's made up - stirring trouble?
Kaylana04
Kaylana04Kaylana04Kekava, Riga Latvia16 Threads 635 Posts
This is an International Public Forum.
Just want to establish that fact before I continue.

Before any proper discussion begins, definitions need to be equally shared and agreed upon.

Please define:
"Trouble maker" and
"Scammer"

My dictionary shows that they are quite different.
Therefore, the following statement is incorrect.
smiley963: Trouble makers should not be allowed on a public website, as they are the same as scammers.
And consequently, the directive: "not be allowed on a public website" does not have to be followed.

smiley963: For some or other reason they feel that it will make the thread more interesting / funny / intelligent / enjoyable!!!! Insulting people in real life, is not allowed, why is it then allowed on a public website, which is world wide?

Most people just shrug it off, as stupidity, but some people actually will start believing it over a period of time. It is called defamation of character, disregarding that it might have been said as a joke, which most of the time it isn't.

Should this type of scamming be allowed?

1. The title is about trying to "discredit people" which is a strategy often employed on a forum. The fallacy often used is called "ad hominem". (Which is a technique frequently seen in your threads.)
2. Then you write about trouble makers and scammers, equating them as the same.
3. Then you go back to how discrediting people is "stupidity" and people "believing it".
4. Then you claim that discrediting a person is equal to defamation of character.

Discrediting people is not defamation of character.

This is an International Public Forum. I have just shown that your argument does not stand.

And my comment does not contain any defamation of character as I have not made any personal attacks on you. I have dissected your argument and shown the errors in your logic.

This is an International Public Forum.
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Mar 7, 2019 10:04 AM CST Why do people try to discredit others - knowing it's made up - stirring trouble?
methuzelah
methuzelahmethuzelahTampa, Florida USA296 Threads 1,633 Posts
sorry smiley, is the world we live in

nothing to do, especially on the internet

which there's no controlgift
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Mar 7, 2019 10:06 AM CST Why do people try to discredit others - knowing it's made up - stirring trouble?
smiley963
smiley963smiley963Johannesburg, Gauteng South Africa254 Threads 5 Polls 3,651 Posts
methuzelah: sorry smiley, is the world we live in

nothing to do, especially on the internet

which there's no control
All websites has some control, just the level differs!!!!!
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Mar 7, 2019 10:08 AM CST Why do people try to discredit others - knowing it's made up - stirring trouble?
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
Kaylana04: This is an International Public Forum.
Just want to establish that fact before I continue.

Before any proper discussion begins, definitions need to be equally shared and agreed upon.

Please define:
"Trouble maker" and
"Scammer"

My dictionary shows that they are quite different.
Therefore, the following statement is incorrect.
And consequently, the directive: "not be allowed on a public website" does not have to be followed.


1. The title is about trying to "discredit people" which is a strategy often employed on a forum. The fallacy often used is called "ad hominem". (Which is a technique frequently seen in your threads.)
2. Then you write about trouble makers and scammers, equating them as the same.
3. Then you go back to how discrediting people is "stupidity" and people "believing it".
4. Then you claim that discrediting a person is equal to defamation of character.

Discrediting people is not defamation of character.

This is an International Public Forum. I have just shown that your argument does not stand.

And my comment does not contain any defamation of character as I have not made any personal attacks on you. I have dissected your argument and shown the errors in your logic.

This is an International Public Forum.
Some people are beyond reasoning with Kaylana. They find any kind of self examination to be an alien concept.

sigh
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Mar 7, 2019 10:08 AM CST Why do people try to discredit others - knowing it's made up - stirring trouble?
methuzelah
methuzelahmethuzelahTampa, Florida USA296 Threads 1,633 Posts
smiley963: All websites has some control, just the level differs!!!!!
yes is true, the control comes when someone

threats another one, I think.
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Mar 7, 2019 10:09 AM CST Why do people try to discredit others - knowing it's made up - stirring trouble?
Liberal1
Liberal1Liberal1Summerfield, Florida USA3 Threads 373 Posts
Discrediting people is not defamation of character.


Finally, a statement I can agree with! Add Defining people to that and we are getting somewhere!

Conclusions come to on my own by the way! Without an Overlord or a Puppet Master!
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Mar 7, 2019 10:09 AM CST Why do people try to discredit others - knowing it's made up - stirring trouble?
smiley963
smiley963smiley963Johannesburg, Gauteng South Africa254 Threads 5 Polls 3,651 Posts
methuzelah: yes is true, the control comes when someone

threats another one, I think.
What happened to you, I haven't seen you around for days now?
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Mar 7, 2019 10:16 AM CST Why do people try to discredit others - knowing it's made up - stirring trouble?
Liberal1: Discrediting people is not defamation of character.


Finally, a statement I can agree with! Add Defining people to that and we are getting somewhere!

Conclusions come to on my own by the way! Without an Overlord or a Puppet Master!
Hijacking another one,Sunshine?
How quaint!laugh
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Mar 7, 2019 10:18 AM CST Why do people try to discredit others - knowing it's made up - stirring trouble?
methuzelah
methuzelahmethuzelahTampa, Florida USA296 Threads 1,633 Posts
smiley963: What happened to you, I haven't seen you around for days now?
I'm just dreaming my life away,
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