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May 28, 2019 5:30 PM CST The National Anthem
Friskyone
FriskyoneFriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA271 Threads 26 Polls 4,631 Posts
Is refusing to stand for the National Anthem an appropriate way to protest?
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May 28, 2019 5:37 PM CST The National Anthem
rohaan
rohaanrohaanCoos Bay, Oregon USA229 Threads 10,523 Posts
Friskyone: Is refusing to stand for the National Anthem an appropriate way to protest?
I am all for the redressing of grievances in The United States of America. I do believe that if a person just cannot be part of the solution, and is forever complaining, etc...then he/she may leave. There are no holds on anyone here, and if someone doesn't love America and have a willingness to try and live here peacefully and participate in what many of us still see as wonderful, then I will gladly volunteer my time and help them pack. We are still the best deal in town, hands down. rose
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May 28, 2019 5:38 PM CST The National Anthem
Friskyone
FriskyoneFriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA271 Threads 26 Polls 4,631 Posts
rohaan: I am all for the redressing of grievances in The United States of America. I do believe that if a person just cannot be part of the solution, and is forever complaining, etc...then he/she may leave. There are no holds on anyone here, and if someone doesn't love America and have a willingness to try and live here peacefully and participate in what many of us still see as wonderful, then I will gladly volunteer my time and help them pack. We are still the best deal in town, hands down.
Well saidthumbs up
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May 28, 2019 5:41 PM CST The National Anthem
No..
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May 28, 2019 9:19 PM CST The National Anthem
mikey4691
mikey4691mikey4691Knoxville, Tennessee USA8 Threads 6,868 Posts
I haven't watched a single NFL game since, nor do I buy anymore of their crap.. Nike will never see another penny of my money either..

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May 28, 2019 9:21 PM CST The National Anthem
Stan_147
Stan_147Stan_147Roseburg, Oregon USA1 Threads 1,018 Posts
Bladewound: No..
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May 28, 2019 9:26 PM CST The National Anthem
M4_Mischief
M4_MischiefM4_MischiefBelleville, Ontario Canada6,250 Posts
to each their own....not everyone has the same affinity for the flag nor does it represent the same thing....either way I don't care...its not a law its actually a choice...wave
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May 28, 2019 9:30 PM CST The National Anthem
MustangWriter
MustangWriterMustangWriterBoerne, Texas USA242 Threads 3 Polls 1,762 Posts
Actually...……. yes.
:: ducking ::

The Supreme Court in 1972 concluded that it was.

I'm not saying it's right... I am saying it is your RIGHT too.
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May 28, 2019 9:33 PM CST The National Anthem
M4_Mischief
M4_MischiefM4_MischiefBelleville, Ontario Canada6,250 Posts
then its a dumb law and I wouldn't go any place where it is enforced....I would stay home in my living room instead where I get to make that choice.....wave
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May 28, 2019 9:40 PM CST The National Anthem
MustangWriter
MustangWriterMustangWriterBoerne, Texas USA242 Threads 3 Polls 1,762 Posts
Wha? 11 minutes ago you said you didn't care.

Its not a law. Its a RIGHT.
One has the right to protest however they see fit.
You and I may not agree with it, but I must respect their right to be able to do so, as long as they allow me the right to wave it proudly.

How you been? You seem cranky lately?
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May 28, 2019 9:45 PM CST The National Anthem
M4_Mischief
M4_MischiefM4_MischiefBelleville, Ontario Canada6,250 Posts
MustangWriter: Wha? 11 minutes ago you said you didn't care.

Its not a law. Its a RIGHT.
One has the right to protest however they see fit.
You and I may not agree with it, but I must respect their right to be able to do so, as long as they allow me the right to wave it proudly.

How you been? You seem cranky lately?
gotcha I misunderstood...I thought you meant they declared it a law that you have to stand and I don't care and I totally agree that a right has two sides....and im ok but I haven't been feelin 100% lately....how have you been?.....wave
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May 28, 2019 9:50 PM CST The National Anthem
Sethan
SethanSethanPort Of Spain, Tunapuna/Piarco Trinidad and Tobago4 Threads 1,080 Posts
As long as they're acknowledging it respectfully and it''s to bring light to a worthy cause, then yes. Kneeling for example is an appropriate way to protest.
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May 28, 2019 11:07 PM CST The National Anthem
Lookin4missright
Lookin4missrightLookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts


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May 28, 2019 11:32 PM CST The National Anthem
Biagra
BiagraBiagraApple Valley, Utah USA1 Threads 23 Posts
Friskyone: Is refusing to stand for the National Anthem an appropriate way to protest?
Jane Fonda is still alive and made fortune.
It is a kind of exploitation of freedom.
But it is allowed and taken advantage of it.

It is the strength of America as well as weakness.
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May 29, 2019 2:40 PM CST The National Anthem
rohaan
rohaanrohaanCoos Bay, Oregon USA229 Threads 10,523 Posts
M4_Mischief: gotcha I misunderstood...I thought you meant they declared it a law that you have to stand and I don't care and I totally agree that a right has two sides....and im ok but I haven't been feelin 100% lately....how have you been?.....
classy--rose
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May 29, 2019 2:52 PM CST The National Anthem
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Friskyone: Is refusing to stand for the National Anthem an appropriate way to protest?
I don't see a problem with refusing to stand or taking a knee to protest something.

However, if my employer said that I get paid to play football not protest something, especially something totally unrelated to respecting the US flag on my employers time.... well I shouldn't complain if I get fired, especially If I have millions in the bank and invested in my home elsewhere already.
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May 29, 2019 3:01 PM CST The National Anthem
Sethan: As long as they're acknowledging it respectfully and it''s to bring light to a worthy cause, then yes. Kneeling for example is an appropriate way to protest.
No. If you want to protest for a cause, do it on your own time, not when it's time to stand united for your country under said country's banner, and certainly not when you're on somebody else's clock. If you're kneeling, you'd best damn well be kneeling for the fallen.
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May 29, 2019 3:03 PM CST The National Anthem
Sethan
SethanSethanPort Of Spain, Tunapuna/Piarco Trinidad and Tobago4 Threads 1,080 Posts
galrads: I don't see a problem with refusing to stand or taking a knee to protest something.

However, if my employer said that I get paid to play football not protest something, especially something totally unrelated to respecting the US flag on my employers time.... well I shouldn't complain if I get fired, especially If I have millions in the bank and invested in my home elsewhere already.
Why should having "millions in the bank" make a difference to bringing attention to an important issue that affects thousands if not millions of lives? Does getting lots of money mean you no longer have a conscience, or voice?

It's also funny and ironic that the US touts itself on being "the land of the free" yet the most "patriotic" are the ones wanting to deport, insult and demonize a person for exercising their freedom? I don't get it? It's political correctness in it's purest form, if you ask me.
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May 29, 2019 3:07 PM CST The National Anthem
Sethan
SethanSethanPort Of Spain, Tunapuna/Piarco Trinidad and Tobago4 Threads 1,080 Posts
Bladewound: No. If you want to protest for a cause, do it on your own time, not when it's time to stand united for your country under said country's banner, and certainly not when you're on somebody else's clock. If you're kneeling, you'd best damn well be kneeling for the fallen.
Political correctness, from the same people that claim to be against it. Look, we don't have to agree with what he's doing, or understand it, but it's his choice. Also, how effective would an attempt to highlight a problem be, if he couldn't use the platform where millions have an opportunity to see and hear it? Get over yourselves people. Just ignore him, if it bothers you? It's very simple.
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May 29, 2019 3:11 PM CST The National Anthem
Sethan: Political correctness, from the same people that claim to be against it. Look, we don't have to agree with what he's doing, or understand it, but it's his choice. Also, how effective would an attempt to highlight a problem be, if he couldn't use the platform where millions have an opportunity to see and hear it? Get over yourselves people. Just ignore him, if it bothers you? It's very simple.
You miss the point, AGAIN! The gridiron is not his personal platform on which to hold court. He's there essentially as an employee of a team. If he wants to kneel in his own front yard on his own time, by all means, have at it, but while he's in a company uniform on company time, no.
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