On the Streets ( Archived) (20)

Dec 18, 2019 6:11 AM CST On the Streets
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
I was in conflict again, The park police or whatever you call them, not proper police officers but with some aurhourity, were moving on a homeless person who was just sitting on the inner edge of the pavement, she was peaceful and obviously hoping for some loose change,

So being an idiot , i asked him why she was being moved on.

We don't like beggers he said. , anyway she might be a drug adict,

And she might be a person down on their luck, sleeping on the streets. I retorted in my best anti social voice

He looked daggers at me.

During the year i usually buy a coffee for them one at a time in rota,

The buskers are easier, they give you some entertainment, and more people give.

It's Christmas , would you give some change to some one on the streets, or a coffee , maybe a mince pie.

Or not??

santa waving
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Dec 18, 2019 6:19 AM CST On the Streets
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Why don't you become a island missionary ao you can give to more. Better idea, come to this continent and see all the lonely wwii grave monuments and then pay us back.
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Dec 18, 2019 6:23 AM CST On the Streets
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
galrads: Why don't you become a island missionary ao you can give to more. Better idea, come to this continent and see all the lonely wwii grave monuments and then pay us back.
We havea few of our own in England, in fact they are all over Europe, but you didn't answer my question Ga'
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Dec 18, 2019 6:36 AM CST On the Streets
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
I give to street people if i we can walk to a nearby mcdonalds to put some food in their belly. I dont habd out just money. If a beggar stands by the same intersection wanting money every day.
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Dec 18, 2019 6:50 AM CST On the Streets
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
galrads: I give to street people if i we can walk to a nearby mcdonalds to put some food in their belly. I dont habd out just money. If a beggar stands by the same intersection wanting money every day.
That's reasonable thumbs up beer
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Dec 18, 2019 7:44 AM CST On the Streets
I gave 200 euro away to different homeless people 20 euro each.........
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Dec 18, 2019 8:23 AM CST On the Streets
Bnaughty: The waitress was correct, you should be fired
rolling on the floor laughing They can't fire meprofessor I feed the tables that pay the bills.grin
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Dec 18, 2019 8:25 AM CST On the Streets
lets start a cs collection for me
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Dec 18, 2019 8:31 AM CST On the Streets
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
Bnaughty: The waitress was correct, you should be fired
Weren't you that drunk and disorderly child, whose parents sold to the rag and bone manrolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing cheers
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Dec 18, 2019 9:47 AM CST On the Streets
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
NAKEDMUDPEOPLE: They can't fire me I feed the tables that pay the bills.
Buskers are better, here are some from my home twn Plymouth, yes the one the Mayflower sailed from


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Dec 18, 2019 11:07 AM CST On the Streets
Bnaughty
BnaughtyBnaughtyMálaga, Andalusia Spain43 Threads 2 Polls 4,685 Posts
tomcatty: Buskers are better, here are some from my home twn Plymouth, yes the one the Mayflower sailed from
Which one of those dossers is you?
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Dec 18, 2019 11:34 AM CST On the Streets
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
Bnaughty: Which one of those dossers is you?
That's rich coming from a Bnaughty ragamuffin


laugh laugh
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Dec 18, 2019 11:42 AM CST On the Streets
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
Mark Mummery, a homeless man living in Grimsby, died last week. According to reports, his body lay on the street for three hours before anyone noticed.

"Nobody seemed to be taking any notice of him at all, even though there was clearly something wrong. He was just lying there lifeless," a local resident told Grimsby Live.

Homelessness is on the rise in England - 280,000 people are living on the streets, up 23,000 since 2016, according to the charity Shelter.

Last year, at least 726 homeless people died in England and Wales.

So what should you do if you see a rough sleeper who appears unwell?

Two in three British people want to help when they see a homeless person, but aren't always sure how to, research by charity Crisis shows.

"British people care about homelessness and they want to help but uncertainty and nervousness are stopping them," says Jon Sparkes, Chief Executive of Crisis.

If you see a homeless person, Crisis advises:

Call 999 if you have immediate concerns about their welfare

Ask if there is anything they need such as a hot drink or food, warm clothing and blankets

Say hello or stop for a chat

"Many people we work with tell us that not being acknowledged or treated as a fellow human being can be just as painful as the physical hardships," adds Mr Sparkes.
'Difficult or scary prospect'

Andrew Mcleay, a support worker at Ealing soup kitchen in London, says striking up a conversation with a homeless person can be a "difficult or scary" prospect.

But he believes that "taking that risk - for the most part - is better than walking by."
Image copyright Andrew Mcleay
Image caption The Ealing Soup Kitchen in west London provides hot food for rough sleepers and runs street patrols

If you see a homeless person who is ill, approach them and ask what you can do to help, Mr Mcleay advises.

'I was beaten up while I was asleep'
The city with no homeless on its streets
'I was once homeless. Now, I sell homes'

"Don't worry about saying the wrong thing. More often than not they are just grateful someone spoke to them, because that could be their only conversation that day."

If you're urgently concerned for someone's welfare, call 999 immediately.

"No one should be left on the streets for hours - that is a horrible thought, and quite a sad and lonely end to a story. Think - maybe that person has a family. Wouldn't you want your family to know?", says Mr Mcleay.
'We got him the help he needed'

His teams on patrol frequently seek medical attention for homeless people, and they have driven people with broken bones and other injuries to A&E.

"One older gentleman we encountered on the street just looked horrendous," Mr Mcleay recalls.

"He was quite weak and I asked him what had happened. He said he hadn't eaten so we gave him some food, but he looked terrible so I asked if I could phone the ambulance, and he agreed.

"The ambulance look him away, and at least we felt he was going to get the help he needed."
Contacting professionals

If you want to find professional help for a homeless person, you can contact government-funded StreetLink, which alerts local authorities in England and Wales about rough sleepers.

StreetLink will contact professionals who will try to find the rough sleepers and help them access shelter and food.

You can call StreetLink or use their website or app to enter details of the location, time and date you saw the person, and any other information you have.
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Dec 18, 2019 11:58 AM CST On the Streets
Friskyone
FriskyoneFriskyoneSanta Fe, New Mexico USA271 Threads 26 Polls 4,631 Posts
Here in my state we have what I think is an unfortunate epidemic of homelessness. Thankfully, the state is now getting aggressive and proactive to help with the problem.

I don't give money but I have often bought them a hot meal, even if it's just McDonalds and if they have a dog, I will buy a bag of dog food too. I donate clothes and blankets to the shelters. I don't mention these things for a pat on the back but I agree with the op, we have no idea what their story is and how did they end up like this. My heart pours out to the homeless, if I were in their position or if I had a friend or family member homeless, I would hope that someone would have the heart to do what is the right thing to do and that is to humanize them have have empathy.

Dont look down at someone unless you are reaching to help them up.

peace
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Dec 18, 2019 12:06 PM CST On the Streets
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
Friskyone: Here in my state we have what I think is an unfortunate epidemic of homelessness. Thankfully, the state is now getting aggressive and proactive to help with the problem.

I don't give money but I have often bought them a hot meal, even if it's just McDonalds and if they have a dog, I will buy a bag of dog food too. I donate clothes and blankets to the shelters. I don't mention these things for a pat on the back but I agree with the op, we have no idea what their story is and how did they end up like this. My heart pours out to the homeless, if I were in their position or if I had a friend or family member homeless, I would hope that someone would have the heart to do what is the right thing to do and that is to humanize them have have empathy.

Dont look down at someone unless you are reaching to help them up.
Well said by a person with compassionhandshake
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Dec 18, 2019 2:20 PM CST On the Streets
HarbalEsquire
HarbalEsquireHarbalEsquireDoncaster, South Yorkshire, England UK14 Threads 1 Polls 601 Posts
tomcatty:
It's Christmas , would you give some change to some one on the streets, or a coffee , maybe a mince pie.
I can spare a fiver, tom, but if I hear you've spent it on cider it will be the last you ever get from me. scold
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Dec 18, 2019 2:35 PM CST On the Streets
tomcatty
tomcattytomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Posts
HarbalEsquire: I can spare a fiver, tom, but if I hear you've spent it on cider it will be the last you ever get from me.
Ah ok , I guess it's smack thenrolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Dec 18, 2019 6:11 PM CST On the Streets
Bnaughty
BnaughtyBnaughtyMálaga, Andalusia Spain43 Threads 2 Polls 4,685 Posts
If everyone in Britain gave just £1 they could solve the homeless problem forever, by putting steel shutters around all the shop doorways
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Dec 19, 2019 7:24 AM CST On the Streets
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
Bnaughty: If everyone in Britain gave just £1 they could solve the homeless problem forever, by putting steel shutters around all the shop doorways
If 'they' spent all the money invested in fake wars into the NHS including mental health, education, pensioners, housint, already existing war veterans, police force and further education, there would be nobody living in the streets purple heart
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Dec 19, 2019 10:34 AM CST On the Streets
tomcatty: I agree. the poor are always with us, but the unfortunate who fall through the net, do deserve to be helped and are helped, the innate goodness of people shines though in this thread, as does the innate cruelty of the unsympathetic who would make a cheap joke at their expense.
I hope they don't end up homeless although it may sharpen their empathy.
It reminds me of the Victorian concept of the 'deserving poor' and the 'undeserving poor'. Such a distinction may exist but both groups need help.
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