Hiroshima, seventy five years on. (92)
Miss_CellaneousWyre, Lancashire, England UK1 Threads 2,444 Postsblathin: Seem you don't know much by the looks of..including how to read properly
Why are you saying that to Jac? , Maybe you should read up on things blathin and get your facts correct.
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Miss_Cellaneous: The quote button has gone for some reason. Jac, you're not on your own............
I know you meant that as a comfort MissC and I really appreciate it, but it's just so wrong that so many people suffer the affects of war.And for what purpose?
I really don't know how to answer Bodie's question because none of it should have happened in the first place to get to the point where the end was Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
The only way it could be justifiable is through self-defence, but to annihilate so many civilians seems totally indefensible to me.
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Miss_Cellaneous: Why are you saying that to Jac? , Maybe you should read up on things blathin and get your facts correct.
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jac_the_gripper: I know you meant that as a comfort MissC and I really appreciate it, but it's just so wrong that so many people suffer the affects of war.
And for what purpose?
I really don't know how to answer Bodie's question because none of it should have happened in the first place to get to the point where the end was Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
The only way it could be justifiable is through self-defence, but to annihilate so many civilians seems totally indefensible to me.
I hear what you are saying Jac. However, how many more hundreds of thousands of Americans would have died before the war was over if the a-bomb was not used And how many more hundreds of thousands if not millions of Japanese would have died had Russia really engaged Japan as they threatened to after the European theater of war ended. And Japan would have been occupied by Russia had Stalin gotten his way thus squashing the more humane way the USA worked with Japan post wwii. My two-cents Jac. And for what purpose?
I really don't know how to answer Bodie's question because none of it should have happened in the first place to get to the point where the end was Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
The only way it could be justifiable is through self-defence, but to annihilate so many civilians seems totally indefensible to me.
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Why drop a second bomb on Nagasaki? I can think of 2 reasons. First, The US didn't want the Japanese to assume we only had 1 bomb and they could just lick their wounds and keep on fighting. Dropping a second bomb blew that idea right out the window. Next, America hated the Japanese so much for the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor, that the average American would have been happy to wipe the whole country of Japan off the planet.
Instead of launching an attack on our ships at Pearl Harbor, the Japanese Emperor would have been smarter to send us a boatload of these bad boys.
Instead of launching an attack on our ships at Pearl Harbor, the Japanese Emperor would have been smarter to send us a boatload of these bad boys.
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Miss_Cellaneous: I don't live in the Uk at the moment but I can see how much hatred is spread amongst the people of the Uk and I just don't understand why? I always thought that it was the Uk. United We Stand. Rule Britannia? I guess not and that's a shame
I find it hard to believe you could be totally oblivious of your own country's history and the damage it has done in any country it colonised...Rule Britannia is an insult to the millions of people who's lives the British just swept aside whilst plundering their lands, their resources and even their people...
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blathin: I find it hard to believe you could be totally oblivious of your own country's history and the damage it has done in any country it colonised...
Rule Britannia is an insult to the millions of people who's lives the British just swept aside whilst plundering their lands, their resources and even their people...
Aye, the British were especially brutal in South Africa in 1899 once they adopted using the Maxim .303 machine gun firing about 650 rounds per minute.Rule Britannia is an insult to the millions of people who's lives the British just swept aside whilst plundering their lands, their resources and even their people...
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galrads: I hear what you are saying Jac. However, how many more hundreds of thousands of Americans would have died before the war was over if the a-bomb was not used And how many more hundreds of thousands if not millions of Japanese would have died had Russia really engaged Japan as they threatened to after the European theater of war ended. And Japan would have been occupied by Russia had Stalin gotten his way thus squashing the more humane way the USA worked with Japan post wwii. My two-cents Jac.
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jac_the_gripper: I know you meant that as a comfort MissC and I really appreciate it, but it's just so wrong that so many people suffer the affects of war.
And for what purpose?
I really don't know how to answer Bodie's question because none of it should have happened in the first place to get to the point where the end was Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
The only way it could be justifiable is through self-defence, but to annihilate so many civilians seems totally indefensible to me.
I think the question I was asking, or pondering over is contained in the lyrics of the song I posted in my op.And for what purpose?
I really don't know how to answer Bodie's question because none of it should have happened in the first place to get to the point where the end was Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
The only way it could be justifiable is through self-defence, but to annihilate so many civilians seems totally indefensible to me.
"Since that day it's been stalemate
Everyone's scared to obliterate
So it seems for peace we can thank the bomb
So I say thank Christ for the bomb."
I posted another Groundhogs track earlier in the week, Soldier. That led me to listening to the title track, Thank Christ for the Bomb. I just wondered, regardless of the rights or wrongs, did the use of the bomb prevent another world war from happening, or has world war just been replaced by many world conflicts.?
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blathin: Seems?
Maybe you'd explain what you mean by "seems"
Ok so. Scrub the "seems". I was only being polite.Maybe you'd explain what you mean by "seems"
It's apparent that you were only giving an opinion & not a proven fact.
The link,if you read it,contradicts what you wrote.
Hope thats cleared up the confusion
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ooby_dooby: The pilot of the Enola Gay, Paul Tibbets lived in a town called Old Tappan. " Old Tappan is a borough in Bergen County, New Jersey " I used to go swimming at a lake near there called Lake Idlewild when I lived in NJ.
It's strange but every time I went there my thoughts drifted to the dropping of the atomic bomb and how different my life was to the people who happened to be living in Hiroshima on that day. Well, for one thing, I was alive and enjoying my life.
1 bomb wasn't enough....people are still suffering till this day. This is from 1945. Ok I'm going to say it as I feel that it needs to said. The 7/11 bombings where maybe 3000 people lost their lives in one day. Does that overtake the 1000's that are still losing their lives each day in Japan continuously?It's strange but every time I went there my thoughts drifted to the dropping of the atomic bomb and how different my life was to the people who happened to be living in Hiroshima on that day. Well, for one thing, I was alive and enjoying my life.
America needs to wake up and realise that there are many millions of people around the world that have the right to live, just the same as you do
Heartbreaking............
Just take a moment to think............
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ooby_dooby: The pilot of the Enola Gay, Paul Tibbets lived in a town called Old Tappan. " Old Tappan is a borough in Bergen County, New Jersey " I used to go swimming at a lake near there called Lake Idlewild when I lived in NJ.
It's strange but every time I went there my thoughts drifted to the dropping of the atomic bomb and how different my life was to the people who happened to be living in Hiroshima on that day. Well, for one thing, I was alive and enjoying my life.
That’s interesting ooby. Tibbets spent a great part of his life in Ohio and Tibbets died in his Columbus, Ohio, home on 1 November 2007, at the age of 92. It's strange but every time I went there my thoughts drifted to the dropping of the atomic bomb and how different my life was to the people who happened to be living in Hiroshima on that day. Well, for one thing, I was alive and enjoying my life.
He enjoyed anyone he crossed paths with just like colonel John Glenn did here.
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jac_the_gripper: I know you meant that as a comfort MissC and I really appreciate it, but it's just so wrong that so many people suffer the affects of war.
And for what purpose?
I really don't know how to answer Bodie's question because none of it should have happened in the first place to get to the point where the end was Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
The only way it could be justifiable is through self-defence, but to annihilate so many civilians seems totally indefensible to me.
I will never understand the effect of the war because my Father would never talk about it. I picked up a few things from my Mum but even my Mum wouldn't talk about anything. I know that my sister died aged 18 months I questioned my Mum in later years.She lost her twins, again before I was born. The twins were born in the hospital. Joe and John. The only 2 that were born in Hospital and they died.And for what purpose?
I really don't know how to answer Bodie's question because none of it should have happened in the first place to get to the point where the end was Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
The only way it could be justifiable is through self-defence, but to annihilate so many civilians seems totally indefensible to me.
I just can't understand why some people are just so hell bent on justifying their so called beliefs. My best friends family live in Tredgar. He's Welsh but his wife is English. They have 5 kids, all Welsh. and good on them ............
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Come to Spain blathin. Just for 4 weeks. You may learn a lot of how we love each other. No N Ireland, No S Ireland . People just loving each other as we do......
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pedro27: as far as i heard Japan declared surrender after the nuclear bomb....
The bomb didn't make them surrender. It was the Soviets who had entered the war that made them surrender. Surrender was being contemplated by the Japanese already. Some say the bombs were not even necessary. Details are sketchy and controversial. Interesting tho, reading about it.------ This thread is Archived ------
Tsubie52: The bomb didn't make them surrender. It was the Soviets who had entered the war that made them surrender. Surrender was being contemplated by the Japanese already. Some say the bombs were not even necessary. Details are sketchy and controversial. Interesting tho, reading about it.
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Miss_Cellaneous: Come to Spain blathin. Just for 4 weeks. You may learn a lot of how we love each other. No N Ireland, No S Ireland . People just loving each other as we do......
Thanks but I'll pass... I'm not really a fan of cheap town bikes 
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blathin: Thanks but I'll pass... I'm not really a fan of cheap town bikes
I thought you would 
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Miss_Cellaneous: Yes you are blathin. People here like to disagree or agree on the topic but you spout off and bring in bloody Irish religions.
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Proud and grateful for what you achieve for us Great Brits................
Nothing but the best 
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