Prince Andrew demands (154)
tomcattyCoral Bay, Paphos, Paphos Cyprus368 Threads 6 Polls 6,885 Postsrohaan: Do they all want him back, or are you being facetious?
No they want him, it's only on CS he's guilty till proven innocent, amongst the ball breakers
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Me I trust the Queens judgement. She seen some things in her life.
She smart.
She smart.
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rohaan: Sorry— doesn’t hold water. When one has a position of privilege and security passes, and civil responsibility, the atmosphere and geography regarding honesty, integrity, and decorum go UP. At 21 I had the keys to the highest level of locked controlled substances in Oregon. I was EXPECTED, and rightfully so, to be 100% trustworthy. A 22 year-old woman working for the Federal Government at The White House knows which way the wind blows.
We ARE talking about emotions Ro not work ethics ,and what started out as a crush turned into something elseDo you consider your ex President to be totally without blame? As a 50 year old married man in charge of America one would have thought that he would have more self control.
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tomcatty: He was kind to all the servants, why else would they all want him back
Catch up with the news will you.
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tomcatty: In my opinion, this woman was a perpetrator, and will godown in the annals with Lewinski
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tomcatty: You make a lot of noise for an empty red drum
Yet you rattle around on here with your opinions knowing absolutely nothing about the threads you post and insult others who's opinion differs from yours .Do yourself a favour and grow up.
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Tiger_Moth: We ARE talking about emotions Ro not work ethics ,and what started out as a crush turned into something else
Do you consider your ex President to be totally without blame? As a 50 year old married man in charge of America one would have thought that he would have more self control.
I do not find our ex-president blameless AT ALL. Yes, I agree he should have had self-control. I AM talking about work ethics, by the way. It’s integral to topic.Do you consider your ex President to be totally without blame? As a 50 year old married man in charge of America one would have thought that he would have more self control.
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rohaan: I do not find our ex-president blameless AT ALL. Yes, I agree he should have had self-control. I AM talking about work ethics, by the way. It’s integral to topic.
Andrew never worked with Virginia Guiffre so actually not relevant. It's only the O.P. that dragged Monica Lewinsky into the discussion who has nothing to do with Andrew.
P.S hugs to the cat
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Tiger_Moth: Andrew never worked with Virginia Guiffre so actually not relevant. It's only the O.P. that dragged Monica Lewinsky into the discussion who has nothing to do with Andrew.
P.S hugs to the cat
Look, it all ties in as pertinent.P.S hugs to the cat
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rohaan: Look, it all ties in as pertinent.
Monica Lewinsky wasn't trafficked, as were all the other girls relating to the Epstein case .------ This thread is Archived ------
rohaan: I agree that name-calling is uncalled for. Blessings, darls
Back at you .
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rohaan: Do you think if he were not a member of the royals he would not be so vilified? Just asking…you know, I had always kind of liked him, but am reading about how unkind he was to staff and peers. A little disappointing. BTW, years ago a biographer for Lady Bird Johnson hinted that she was cruel to assistants, even slapping a housekeeper was rumored. This was panned, but leaked to a few free-lancers.
(Excuse me if I sound condescending in asking— do you know what I mean by “free-lance”?)
That's a bit of an open question and I'm not quite sure what you're asking, Rohaan.(Excuse me if I sound condescending in asking— do you know what I mean by “free-lance”?)
If he were unknown there likely would be no public denigration, so his fame does have an impact.
Any wealthy, or otherwise powerful person is likely to be perceived as thinking themselves above the law and untouchable in these circumstances, but I suppose being a British royal compounds that. The royal family had to cut him loose (at least in part) to demonstrate he wasn't protected by their particular brand of privilege.
Having been ousted by the monarchy, it creates a perception that he's guilty, or more is going on behind the scenes than in public. That will amplify public criticism.
Anyone in an ambassadorial role will be expected to be squeaky clean, but maybe not quite as much as the Chief of Police would be as an ambassador for the legal system, for example. There would be higher level of hypocrisy associated with the latter.
Had a judge been caught associating with Epstein and Maxwell, or been photographed with Guiffre, I think perhaps the public outrage would have been greater, not only in terms of hypocrisy, but because of the particular power a judge wields over other people's lives.
I'm sure Andrew has copped a lot of flack because of his position, but not necessarily without reason, or unfairly so.
'Freelancer' is used to describe a certain type of journalist on this side of the pond, too. Thanks for checking.
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jac_the_gripper: It had crossed my mind that a British jury is perhaps more lkely to be irrational and biased in Andrew's favour than a judge.
The jury not doing their job properly is perhaps his only hope.
If and only if there is a trial by jury,as no decision has been made as suchThe jury not doing their job properly is perhaps his only hope.
This case will be heard in an American Court and jury selection is quite rigorous . They are vetted and selected or rejected by both attorneys and even the Judge before the case is heard.
Can't imagine David Boise allowing any bias in this case .
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Tiger_Moth: If and only if there is a trial by jury,as no decision has been made as such
This case will be heard in an American Court and jury selection is quite rigorous . They are vetted and selected or rejected by both attorneys and even the Judge before the case is heard.
Can't imagine David Boise allowing any bias in this case .
I forgot it will be an American court. Thanks for remindng me.This case will be heard in an American Court and jury selection is quite rigorous . They are vetted and selected or rejected by both attorneys and even the Judge before the case is heard.
Can't imagine David Boise allowing any bias in this case .
You can't disallow bias. Whatever you put in front of somene they wll interpret from their own value framework, however much you try and steer them.
The rigorous jury selection in itself is based upon creating optimum bias.
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We live in a culture where men are encouraged to be like women and vice versa. Women earn more than men and the law is on their side but for all of that, it can't really succeed. Because women drop out and have kids. Social engineering breaks down at that point of great biological difference.
And that's one thing I like about the pandemic. This emphasis on essential workers has hit women hard. Superfluous nonsense has taken a hit. They might earn more before they have kids, but in jobs that are an extortion racket jobs we are manipulated into financing.
And that's one thing I like about the pandemic. This emphasis on essential workers has hit women hard. Superfluous nonsense has taken a hit. They might earn more before they have kids, but in jobs that are an extortion racket jobs we are manipulated into financing.
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It's an irony of the pandemic. Lockdown supporters are not the essential workers. There's a reason they've quickly turned on those they once clapped for and it's because they'll be disproportionately leave voting men. It absolutely despises the culture of the working class that it claps. And that does feed into how old is a 17 year old? Woke kids are immature for their age not getting a job until they're in their mid-twenties. In the working class you grow up relatively quick.
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And lockdown raises another point because it's damaged the young at an industrial scale. The youth is going to grow up really warped. And I do think that Andrews head on a spike is desired as some sort of consolation for a worse life for your kids in general.
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Pronoun offences are another example. Actioning the things that don't matter whilst posterity is led seamlessly into a Chinese concentration camp. Civilisations play very strange games before the final collapse. Insanity becomes usual before the end.
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Does the settlement with Epstein implicate Andrew?
Will Maxwell look to make a deal?
Will Andrew be present at the trial?
I'd imagine he is a very nervous man.
Will Maxwell look to make a deal?
Will Andrew be present at the trial?
I'd imagine he is a very nervous man.
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But a 17 year old is 70 when it comes to vaccines. An infantilised world with an aging population finds itself saying one thing and then the other. Is a teenager 7 or are they 70? Neither, both. The ends always justify the means.
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