Martial law (50)

Apr 3, 2022 12:08 PM CST Martial law
Is Martial law better than democracy?
Positive and negative points plz?
Apr 3, 2022 12:11 PM CST Martial law
Jaavisst
JaavisstJaavisstLjusdal, Gavleborg Sweden141 Threads 27 Polls 1,474 Posts
ali110: Is Martial law better than democracy?
Positive and negative points plz?
No because then your walkabouts are limited.
Apr 3, 2022 12:13 PM CST Martial law
Jaavisst: No because then your walkabouts are limited.
what about human rights, Good governance?
Apr 3, 2022 12:17 PM CST Martial law
ali110: Is Martial law better than democracy?
Positive and negative points plz?
Democracy stinks, martial law is the lowest way to live.

The movie rocks!

Apr 3, 2022 12:22 PM CST Martial law
Governments are like parents and they love you.

Daddy government knows best
Mommy government will take care of you.

Anything out of that is a conspiracy theory

popcorn
Apr 3, 2022 12:35 PM CST Martial law
martial law? no. government should not be allowed to take that kind of control over citizens. they can't guarantee safety by suppressing freedom. it's only purpose is to exact control.


the 2nd amendment rights in the u.s. exists to help prevent the government from abusing it's powers. it ensures a way for the people to fight back when they've had enough. another u.s. revolution may not be a bad idea in the long run. it would of course lead to a 2nd civil war as well.
Apr 3, 2022 12:44 PM CST Martial law
Draegoneer: martial law? no. government should not be allowed to take that kind of control over citizens. they can't guarantee safety by suppressing freedom. it's only purpose is to exact control.


the 2nd amendment rights in the u.s. exists to help prevent the government from abusing it's powers. it ensures a way for the for so,e time now.people to fight back when they've had enough. another u.s. revolution may not be a bad idea in the long run. it would of course lead to a 2nd civil war as well.
Agree but we've had a cultural and psychological civil war going on here for some time now.
Apr 3, 2022 12:48 PM CST Martial law
galrads: Agree but we've had a cultural and psychological civil war going on here for some time now.
agreed there too. it comes back to government creating crisis. we know the rest from there.

more reason as to why government should be very limited and not allowed such things a martial law.
Apr 3, 2022 12:53 PM CST Martial law
Name_Taken_Two
Name_Taken_TwoName_Taken_TwoBelfast, Antrim Ireland55 Threads 2,634 Posts
ali110: Is Martial law better than democracy?
Positive and negative points plz?
America still funds Israel and her illegal occupation..sigh

This article is 2 years old, although it still carries on..

Israeli military law stifles Palestinian rights, watchdog says

“Israeli military law in place for 52 years bars Palestinians in the West Bank from such basic freedoms as waving flags, peacefully protesting the occupation, joining all major political movements and publishing political material,”

Apr 3, 2022 1:05 PM CST Martial law
Name_Taken_Two
Name_Taken_TwoName_Taken_TwoBelfast, Antrim Ireland55 Threads 2,634 Posts
Name_Taken_Two: America still funds Israel and her illegal occupation..

This article is 2 years old, although it still carries on..

Israeli military law stifles Palestinian rights, watchdog says

“Israeli military law in place for 52 years bars Palestinians in the West Bank from such basic freedoms as waving flags, peacefully protesting the occupation, joining all major political movements and publishing political material,”

Israel also use "Administrative Detention" (Administrative detention is a procedure that allows the Israeli military to hold prisoners indefinitely on secret information without charging them or allowing them to stand trial.)
Yankee dollars help to keep this alive in 2022..sigh

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Apr 3, 2022 1:11 PM CST Martial law
Name_Taken_Two: America still funds Israel and her illegal occupation..

This article is 2 years old, although it still carries on..

Israeli military law stifles Palestinian rights, watchdog says

“Israeli military law in place for 52 years bars Palestinians in the West Bank from such basic freedoms as waving flags, peacefully protesting the occupation, joining all major political movements and publishing political material,”

british ruled that region then gave territory to israel.

israel has been under attack since it became an independent state in 1947. the six day war is where they gained more territory. they gave up territory, the gaza strip, in 2005 as part of a peace agreement.

it's a war and from what i see, israel is still having to defend itself from threats constantly. peace talks haven't gained much ground and i could care less about palestine as both sides might be guilty. it's like one of those never ending wars.

israel still suffered attacks and so feel no ties between what's going on now in that region still, and any thing to do with martial law.
Apr 3, 2022 1:19 PM CST Martial law
Name_Taken_Two
Name_Taken_TwoName_Taken_TwoBelfast, Antrim Ireland55 Threads 2,634 Posts
Draegoneer: british ruled that region then gave territory to israel.

israel has been under attack since it became an independent state in 1947. the six day war is where they gained more territory. they gave up territory, the gaza strip, in 2005 as part of a peace agreement.

it's a war and from what i see, israel is still having to defend itself from threats constantly. peace talks haven't gained much ground and i could care less about palestine as both sides might be guilty. it's like one of those never ending wars.

israel still suffered attacks and so feel no ties between what's going on now in that region still, and any thing to do with martial law.
I don't see it a s war, the Palestinians have No Air force Navy or heavy weapons, Gaza is under siege and illegal settlements are being built as we speak, it settler colonialism.. And America fund the Israeli war machine to the tune of 4 billion dollars a year..

Israel's building of settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territories is illegal under international law

Settlements are Jewish communities in historic Palestine built by the Zionist movement pre-1948 and thereafter by the state of Israel. These communities can range in size from single-person outposts to entire cities. One of the first settlements built by Zionists was Tel Aviv in the early 20th century. Eventually, as Jewish immigration from Europe increased, Zionists began acquiring more plots of land for settlement. After the military assaults of 1948-’50, Zionist armed forces, subsequently transformed into the Israeli army, constructed Jewish settlements over the ruins of Palestinian towns and villages throughout the 78 percent of historic Palestine they controlled. After launching another war in 1967 in which Israel captured the remaining 22 percent of historical Palestine – the West Bank including East Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip – Israel immediately began constructing Jewish-only settlements in the newly-occupied territories. The UN has condemned settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territories in multiple resolutions and votes, declaring them to be illegal under international law. The number of settlers living in occupied East Jerusalem and the West Bank has grown to nearly 600,000. Settlements in occupied East Jerusalem and the West Bank are connected to each other and to Israel through bypass roads that circumvent Palestinian areas. Israeli settlers in the occupied West Bank are allowed to carry weapons, and often attack Palestinians and their buildings and farmland. Israel continues to expand existing settlements, as well as annexing more Palestinian land to build new settlements. The cumulative effect has been to deny Palestinians the ability to create a viable state in even a small part of historic Palestine.
Apr 3, 2022 1:25 PM CST Martial law
Name_Taken_Two: I don't see it a s war, the Palestinians have No Air force Navy or heavy weapons, Gaza is under siege and illegal settlements are being built as we speak, it settler colonialism.. And America fund the Israeli war machine to the tune of 4 billion dollars a year..

Israel's building of settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territories is illegal under international law

Settlements are Jewish communities in historic Palestine built by the Zionist movement pre-1948 and thereafter by the state of Israel. These communities can range in size from single-person outposts to entire cities. One of the first settlements built by Zionists was Tel Aviv in the early 20th century. Eventually, as Jewish immigration from Europe increased, Zionists began acquiring more plots of land for settlement. After the military assaults of 1948-’50, Zionist armed forces, subsequently transformed into the Israeli army, constructed Jewish settlements over the ruins of Palestinian towns and villages throughout the 78 percent of historic Palestine they controlled. After launching another war in 1967 in which Israel captured the remaining 22 percent of historical Palestine – the West Bank including East Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip – Israel immediately began constructing Jewish-only settlements in the newly-occupied territories. The UN has condemned settlements in the Occupied Palestinian Territories in multiple resolutions and votes, declaring them to be illegal under international law. The number of settlers living in occupied East Jerusalem and the West Bank has grown to nearly 600,000. Settlements in occupied East Jerusalem and the West Bank are connected to each other and to Israel through bypass roads that circumvent Palestinian areas. Israeli settlers in the occupied West Bank are allowed to carry weapons, and often attack Palestinians and their buildings and farmland. Israel continues to expand existing settlements, as well as annexing more Palestinian land to build new settlements. The cumulative effect has been to deny Palestinians the ability to create a viable state in even a small part of historic Palestine.
guess there should have been more thought before attacking them in 1967 when they gained much of that terrirtory.

i feel no remorse since israel did try giving some territory back. as long as threats and attacks persist, israel has a right to defend.
Apr 3, 2022 1:32 PM CST Martial law
Name_Taken_Two
Name_Taken_TwoName_Taken_TwoBelfast, Antrim Ireland55 Threads 2,634 Posts
Draegoneer: guess there should have been more thought before attacking them in 1967 when they gained much of that terrirtory.

i feel no remorse since israel did try giving some territory back. as long as threats and attacks persist, israel has a right to defend.
I wouldn't expect you to have remorse.. But the reality is that it's an illegal occupation, and funded by you and your fellow country men/women's tax dollars.. A right to defend you say, yet you have no problem with Palestinians being denied basic human rights..sigh

"Although the issue of Israeli settlements is old news to followers of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, new realities that have quickly emerged on the ground have made the situation only more dangerous. Recently, the issue has taken on unprecedented dimensions, determining the course of the conflict on a daily basis as the new plans for the expansion of the settlement and outpost are systematically announced. Additionally, violent attacks by settlers against Palestinians and their property are exponentially increasing."

Apr 3, 2022 1:45 PM CST Martial law
Name_Taken_Two: I wouldn't expect you to have remorse.. But the reality is that it's an illegal occupation, and funded by you and your fellow country men/women's tax dollars.. A right to defend you say, yet you have no problem with Palestinians being denied basic human rights..

"Although the issue of Israeli settlements is old news to followers of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, new realities that have quickly emerged on the ground have made the situation only more dangerous. Recently, the issue has taken on unprecedented dimensions, determining the course of the conflict on a daily basis as the new plans for the expansion of the settlement and outpost are systematically announced. Additionally, violent attacks by settlers against Palestinians and their property are exponentially increasing."

when a region is constantly pushed to defend itself, there is no such thing as illegal occupation. only the politics being pushed trying to make self defense illegal.

what bearing does this have with martial law? i think in the context of the topic, is whether or not government should in extreme charge over the citizenry.
Apr 3, 2022 1:53 PM CST Martial law
Name_Taken_Two
Name_Taken_TwoName_Taken_TwoBelfast, Antrim Ireland55 Threads 2,634 Posts
Draegoneer: when a region is constantly pushed to defend itself, there is no such thing as illegal occupation. only the politics being pushed trying to make self defense illegal.

what bearing does this have with martial law? i think in the context of the topic, is whether or not government should in extreme charge over the citizenry.
You are just using the old Zionist spiel with this defending itself line.. The martial law I'm getting at is prevalent today with the use "Administrative Detention" (Administrative detention is a procedure that allows the Israeli military to hold prisoners indefinitely on secret information without charging them or allowing them to stand trial.) or do you consider this to be normal?
Apr 3, 2022 1:53 PM CST Martial law
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Condor009online today!Condor009Victoria, British Columbia Canada304 Posts
ali110: Is Martial law better than democracy?
Positive and negative points plz?
Depends entirely on which end of the gun you are pointing or having pointed at you...Join a guerrilla group or a fascist type army today and find out! laugh
Apr 3, 2022 1:54 PM CST Martial law
Name_Taken_Two
Name_Taken_TwoName_Taken_TwoBelfast, Antrim Ireland55 Threads 2,634 Posts
Condor009: Depends entirely on which end of the gun you are pointing or having pointed at you...Join a guerrilla group or a fascist type army today and find out!
thumbs up laugh
Apr 3, 2022 2:25 PM CST Martial law
Name_Taken_Two: You are just using the old Zionist spiel with this defending itself line.. The martial law I'm getting at is prevalent today with the use "Administrative Detention" (Administrative detention is a procedure that allows the Israeli military to hold prisoners indefinitely on secret information without charging them or allowing them to stand trial.) or do you consider this to be normal?
much like the u.s., british, and russian politics that helped to keep it all alive, as well as neighboring countries still threatening with the extinction of israel, you spread hatred and try forcing people to choose sides with labels.

good luck with your endeavors. as long as israel stands and has to keep defending, it has nothing to do with labels. any country that has to keep defending itself from others, i wish them the best.

should ukraine be under matial law? no. they did the opposite. they armed their citizens to help defend it.
Apr 3, 2022 2:25 PM CST Martial law
Draegoneer: much like the u.s., british, and russian politics that helped to keep it all alive, as well as neighboring countries still threatening with the extinction of israel, you spread hatred and try forcing people to choose sides with labels.

good luck with your endeavors. as long as israel stands and has to keep defending, it has nothing to do with labels. any country that has to keep defending itself from others, i wish them the best.

should ukraine be under martial law? no. they did the opposite. they armed their citizens to help defend it.
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