Some advice please..... (40)
Didi7: Is anyone familiar with the use of Botox treatments for jaw-clenching/teeth-grinding issues? I'd like some advice please, preferably from persons who may have had the treatment themselves or know of persons who did.
Whilst I know 'some' things about it, the insights drawn from actual experience is very valuable to me. Thanks much.
I doubt it's a good idea. Botox render muscles inert. So then you couldn't chew and eat any! And you would have to take a shot every day before sleep! I think that can build up toxic levels and Botox is very dangerous. And costly. Whilst I know 'some' things about it, the insights drawn from actual experience is very valuable to me. Thanks much.
If you can't solve the issues that make you tense, then I recommend a bite rail.
Also get used to sleep on your stomach. I think that will help.
Best is to get a snoring man, then you will get so little sleep that you will be to tired to do it.
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Didi7: Is anyone familiar with the use of Botox treatments for jaw-clenching/teeth-grinding issues? I'd like some advice please, preferably from persons who may have had the treatment themselves or know of persons who did.
Whilst I know 'some' things about it, the insights drawn from actual experience is very valuable to me. Thanks much.
I've never used it and never would, but I do know it's made from Botulism..and botulism is the reason why nitrates/nitrites are in all pork-meat products because it (botulism) can make you seriously seriously ill.....so make of that what you will...Whilst I know 'some' things about it, the insights drawn from actual experience is very valuable to me. Thanks much.
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blathin: I've never used it and never would, but I do know it's made from Botulism..and botulism is the reason why nitrates/nitrites are in all pork-meat products because it (botulism) can make you seriously seriously ill.....so make of that what you will...
Never use it either. I heard its a very expensive maintenance if you ever start it.------ This thread is Archived ------
blathin: I've never used it and never would, but I do know it's made from Botulism..and botulism is the reason why nitrates/nitrites are in all pork-meat products because it (botulism) can make you seriously seriously ill.....so make of that what you will...
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lindsyjones: Never use it either. I heard its a very expensive maintenance if you ever start it.
Thanks LJ, I've heard that too...
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Jaavisst: I doubt it's a good idea. Botox render muscles inert. So then you couldn't chew and eat any! And you would have to take a shot every day before sleep! I think that can build up toxic levels and Botox is very dangerous. And costly.
If you can't solve the issues that make you tense, then I recommend a bite rail.
Also get used to sleep on your stomach. I think that will help.
Best is to get a snoring man, then you will get so little sleep that you will be to tired to do it.
Thanks Jaavisst, I'll certainly check on the bite rail. As for the "snoring man", that's a hard "pass".If you can't solve the issues that make you tense, then I recommend a bite rail.
Also get used to sleep on your stomach. I think that will help.
Best is to get a snoring man, then you will get so little sleep that you will be to tired to do it.
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Didi7: Thanks Jaavisst, I'll certainly check on the bite rail. As for the "snoring man", that's a hard "pass".
You're so cheeky Jaavisst! A bite rail is for a baby, and whilst I'm young (compared with you), I'm way past that------ This thread is Archived ------
Didi7: You're so cheeky Jaavisst! A bite rail is for a baby, and whilst I'm young (compared with you), I'm way past that
If however, you really meant to say "Bite Guard", then you're forgiven.:)------ This thread is Archived ------
Didi7: Is anyone familiar with the use of Botox treatments for jaw-clenching/teeth-grinding issues? I'd like some advice please, preferably from persons who may have had the treatment themselves or know of persons who did.
Whilst I know 'some' things about it, the insights drawn from actual experience is very valuable to me. Thanks much.
Apart from the cost, the health risks and the dangers etc...personally I'd suggest try other safer and probably cheaper more natural solutions first...Whilst I know 'some' things about it, the insights drawn from actual experience is very valuable to me. Thanks much.
If I were in your shoes I'd go to the dentist first, because you could be doing damage and( as Javisst suggested) they might give you a guard to wear at night, it might not stop the grinding etc but it will protect your teeth and gums....
Are you worryiung about anythng or carrying some sort of pent up anger/frustration/worry ? That may be at the root of the problem?
I'm no doctor but personally I'd try to get to the root of the problem first...botox is a bit extreme when you don't know what's causing it
Hope you get it sorted Didi
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Bid64: wicked man Pete have you teeth
. Yes like Dracula. Fangs. 
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truheart1941: . Yes like Dracula. Fangs.
do you take em out at night 
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Bid64: do you take em out at night
there's only one thing I'll out at night. ------ This thread is Archived ------
truheart1941: there's only one thing I'll out at night.
....pull------ This thread is Archived ------
truheart1941: there's only one thing I'll out at night.
only at night now must go do that shopping ------ This thread is Archived ------
Sound like you or whomever is suffering from worry or nervousness, anxiety.
Nature of mind is clear light, so don't worry nothing wrong with you, so please don't take pills.
Anxiety occurs because we are not living in the here and now, thoughts can be bit like news feeds, little constant cycling news items.
We often grasp onto a thought comprehend meaning or try to resolve some problem or other, however before anything is resolved we grasp onto the next thought over and over grasping onto thought after thought. ,
We often hope for something to occur soon, turn up, change like tomorrow or whenever. That sought of thought process probably we've engaged in throughout our whole life, our whole life we have not been living in the here and now.
I read a book called "The Way of Zen" meditation. Also read quite a lot about Nehru Gandhi he used his mind carefully. Nehru chucked the British out of India, he actually did lots things and I found the booked called "Life and Times of Nehru Gandhi helpful.
I made a study of Tibetan Mahayana (Dalai Lamas teachings) Buddhism, and that includes meditation, in the first instance type of meditation directed towards still the mind. My mind, many benefits, helps us the live in the here and now. Stop us from grasping thoughts with constant expectations that create worry, nervousness anxiety.
So meditation, I found very hard, took number of years before i was able to actually park mind. My mind was like a raging bull in a china shop.
There meditation classes support even in christian churches, most hospitals make meditation available as pretty much all forms of Ism...
Myself spent over two years trying using this method:
Sit comfortably, use one finger gently block right nostril and just naturally breathe in through left nostril and then breath out through the right x 11
Breathe in through right nostril and out through the left x 11
Breathe in through both nostrils and out through the both x 11
x 3
Whenever you find yourself following or grasping onto a thought, start the count again from beginning.
Boss your mind (ego) command mind, and level contentment will change...
Nature of mind is clear light, so don't worry nothing wrong with you, so please don't take pills.
Anxiety occurs because we are not living in the here and now, thoughts can be bit like news feeds, little constant cycling news items.
We often grasp onto a thought comprehend meaning or try to resolve some problem or other, however before anything is resolved we grasp onto the next thought over and over grasping onto thought after thought. ,
We often hope for something to occur soon, turn up, change like tomorrow or whenever. That sought of thought process probably we've engaged in throughout our whole life, our whole life we have not been living in the here and now.
I read a book called "The Way of Zen" meditation. Also read quite a lot about Nehru Gandhi he used his mind carefully. Nehru chucked the British out of India, he actually did lots things and I found the booked called "Life and Times of Nehru Gandhi helpful.
I made a study of Tibetan Mahayana (Dalai Lamas teachings) Buddhism, and that includes meditation, in the first instance type of meditation directed towards still the mind. My mind, many benefits, helps us the live in the here and now. Stop us from grasping thoughts with constant expectations that create worry, nervousness anxiety.
So meditation, I found very hard, took number of years before i was able to actually park mind. My mind was like a raging bull in a china shop.
There meditation classes support even in christian churches, most hospitals make meditation available as pretty much all forms of Ism...
Myself spent over two years trying using this method:
Sit comfortably, use one finger gently block right nostril and just naturally breathe in through left nostril and then breath out through the right x 11
Breathe in through right nostril and out through the left x 11
Breathe in through both nostrils and out through the both x 11
x 3
Whenever you find yourself following or grasping onto a thought, start the count again from beginning.
Boss your mind (ego) command mind, and level contentment will change...
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Didi7: Is anyone familiar with the use of Botox treatments for jaw-clenching/teeth-grinding issues? I'd like some advice please, preferably from persons who may have had the treatment themselves or know of persons who did.
Whilst I know 'some' things about it, the insights drawn from actual experience is very valuable to me. Thanks much.
Forget the botox. Get a mouthpiece that American football players use. (Sporting goods). You heat it in hot water, and bite it to the shape of your mouth. And sleep with it. Much cheaper, safer, no side effects, and you have control over it.Whilst I know 'some' things about it, the insights drawn from actual experience is very valuable to me. Thanks much.
Good luck, have a nice day
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blathin: Apart from the cost, the health risks and the dangers etc...personally I'd suggest try other safer and probably cheaper more natural solutions first...
If I were in your shoes I'd go to the dentist first, because you could be doing damage and( as Javisst suggested) they might give you a guard to wear at night, it might not stop the grinding etc but it will protect your teeth and gums....
Are you worryiung about anythng or carrying some sort of pent up anger/frustration/worry ? That may be at the root of the problem?
I'm no doctor but personally I'd try to get to the root of the problem first...botox is a bit extreme when you don't know what's causing it
Hope you get it sorted Didi
Such good advice...Thanks much blathin. I do use a guard, but I do have an idea of what may be causing my current stress, so I guess I should just work on those aspects for now:)If I were in your shoes I'd go to the dentist first, because you could be doing damage and( as Javisst suggested) they might give you a guard to wear at night, it might not stop the grinding etc but it will protect your teeth and gums....
Are you worryiung about anythng or carrying some sort of pent up anger/frustration/worry ? That may be at the root of the problem?
I'm no doctor but personally I'd try to get to the root of the problem first...botox is a bit extreme when you don't know what's causing it
Hope you get it sorted Didi
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Hi Didi,
I believe you need aligners...
They are great for this problem and even if your teeth grinding is due to an incorrect bite it will align the teeth and solve the problem.
I believe you need aligners...
They are great for this problem and even if your teeth grinding is due to an incorrect bite it will align the teeth and solve the problem.
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Didi7: Thanks LJ, I've heard that too...
Welcome Didi, now the other alternative is even worse. The likes of Goldie Hawn, very scary. 
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Whilst I know 'some' things about it, the insights drawn from actual experience is very valuable to me. Thanks much.