3 hostages killed by IDF (116)

Dec 16, 2023 7:55 PM CST 3 hostages killed by IDF
Grandsiozzie: I see it.
I have seen that too.conversing gotta go hole
Dec 17, 2023 1:46 AM CST 3 hostages killed by IDF
salamuna
salamunasalamunaDeventer, Overijssel Netherlands5 Threads 225 Posts
Grandsiozzie: I know... hehe
so now she knows I was just putting on a show
I hope I managed to fit into your show, Grandsy. because in reality I never drink wine. I can sometimes drink whiskey or brandy in good company. drinking
Dec 17, 2023 1:49 AM CST 3 hostages killed by IDF
salamuna
salamunasalamunaDeventer, Overijssel Netherlands5 Threads 225 Posts
Grandsiozzie: Thanks John.
I just saw on the map by the way, Cyprus is a stone throw away from Israel where Sala is right now.
If you'd been visiting back home now you two could almost reach hands, lol.

Night Sala, sweeto dreamo
I have never been to Cyprus and I am unlikely visit it, at least not in this life. so we can't reach out our hands ever I guess
Dec 17, 2023 2:59 AM CST 3 hostages killed by IDF
salamuna: I have never been to Cyprus and I am unlikely visit it, at least not in this life. so we can't reach out our hands ever I guess
But you and me can hug
..or as he say: you can now heart1
Dec 17, 2023 3:00 AM CST 3 hostages killed by IDF
salamuna: I hope I managed to fit into your show, Grandsy. because in reality I never drink wine. I can sometimes drink whiskey or brandy in good company.
Don't worry about it. I actually drink too seldom.
Dec 17, 2023 3:01 AM CST 3 hostages killed by IDF
Grandsiozzie: I know... hehe
so now she knows I was just putting on a show
As was my response. It takes one to know one.

I guess it also came with free pizzagrin
Dec 17, 2023 3:40 AM CST 3 hostages killed by IDF
Youcannow: When you see the sufferings on both sides , it makes you think how politicians sleep at night.
Just read this article and I'm wondering what your opinion would be.


"Netanyahu is openly defying the US - and they want him gone"
Dec 17, 2023 6:27 AM CST 3 hostages killed by IDF
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
germanspitz: Just read this article and I'm wondering what your opinion would be.


"Netanyahu is openly defying the US - and they want him gone"
Netanyahu is out of control. Biden has realised it & so have the rest of the world .
Let me explain why Biden said he’s concerned about the indiscriminate bombing .
50% of the bombs dropped in Gaza have been “dumb bombs” . Dumb bombs were used in the Vietnam war & have an accuracy of about 30 meters from the intended target . So any intended target could land on a residential building & kill families of civilians & cause what the IDF call collateral damage. That has been the case , which is why we’re seeing so many civilian casualties.
Whereas every missile fired from Ukraine has been a precision guided missile & has the accuracy of 2 metres , not to mention every missile fired by Ukraine is registered by the US military.
Dec 17, 2023 7:24 AM CST 3 hostages killed by IDF
Youcannow: Netanyahu is out of control. Biden has realised it & so have the rest of the world .
Let me explain why Biden said he’s concerned about the indiscriminate bombing .
50% of the bombs dropped in Gaza have been “dumb bombs” . Dumb bombs were used in the Vietnam war & have an accuracy of about 30 meters from the intended target . So any intended target could land on a residential building & kill families of civilians & cause what the IDF call collateral damage. That has been the case , which is why we’re seeing so many civilian casualties.
Whereas every missile fired from Ukraine has been a precision guided missile & has the accuracy of 2 metres , not to mention every missile fired by Ukraine is registered by the US military.
The U.K is of the same opinion

"Israel-Hamas war: David Cameron calls for lasting peace piling more pressure on Netanyahu"

It is widely accepted that the most likely solution to the conflict is a "two-state solution": in other words, the creation of a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza. Do you think this would resolve the ongoing conflict.?
Dec 17, 2023 7:54 AM CST 3 hostages killed by IDF
salamuna
salamunasalamunaDeventer, Overijssel Netherlands5 Threads 225 Posts
Youcannow: Netanyahu is out of control. Biden has realised it & so have the rest of the world .
Let me explain why Biden said he’s concerned about the indiscriminate bombing .
50% of the bombs dropped in Gaza have been “dumb bombs” . Dumb bombs were used in the Vietnam war & have an accuracy of about 30 meters from the intended target . So any intended target could land on a residential building & kill families of civilians & cause what the IDF call collateral damage. That has been the case , which is why we’re seeing so many civilian casualties.
Whereas every missile fired from Ukraine has been a precision guided missile & has the accuracy of 2 metres , not to mention every missile fired by Ukraine is registered by the US military.
and as usual you are wrong. the information is incorrect. but I won’t give the correct information, because neither you, love, nor, especially the GermanSpitz, need it... time will put everything on its place... a little bit later.
good luck to you, I'm leaving
Dec 17, 2023 7:55 AM CST 3 hostages killed by IDF
germanspitz: As was my response. It takes one to know one.

I guess it also came with free pizza
Best pizza I ever tasted was in gran canaria downstars in a hotel next to the pool.
By some italians, flat and open flame.

Ever tried Renault xo Cognac?
Two of those taxfree ones went around the bus from the airport on a chartertrip to Bulgaria once.
Yes it was a rather funny bunny holiday.

party hat
Dec 17, 2023 7:56 AM CST 3 hostages killed by IDF
Wait,... eh what was this thread about again?... ehmm...

gotta go
Dec 17, 2023 8:19 AM CST 3 hostages killed by IDF
salamuna: and as usual you are wrong. the information is incorrect. but I won’t give the correct information, because neither you, love, nor, especially the GermanSpitz, need it... time will put everything on its place... a little bit later.
good luck to you, I'm leaving
Why would you not bother to correct us if your information is the true version.confused Please don't assume that you know what I need either.I thought you stated that you don't judge others in another post.

Not much point entering a discussion if you just argue the toss to be honest.I'm always willing to learn from others even as an" old lady " as you once labelled me.

scold
Dec 17, 2023 8:21 AM CST 3 hostages killed by IDF
Grandsiozzie: Best pizza I ever tasted was in gran canaria downstars in a hotel next to the pool.
By some italians, flat and open flame.

Ever tried Renault xo Cognac?
Two of those taxfree ones went around the bus from the airport on a chartertrip to Bulgaria once.
Yes it was a rather funny bunny holiday.
I actually abstain from alcohol except maybe a naughty Bailey's in my coffeewink
Dec 17, 2023 8:31 AM CST 3 hostages killed by IDF
Len05
Len05Len05Antwerp, Antwerpen Belgium33 Threads 11 Polls 972 Posts
Youcannow: First of all , my condolences to the families of those poor boys who were taken against their will & had to endure the horrific ordeal of kidnapping.
What was the the excuse for the cold blooded murder ?
We made a mistake !
Mistake !! These poor boys were bare chested , waving a white flag & posed no threat , thinking they had escaped their captives only to be hit by friendly fire !
Now under the Geneva convention, anyone who waves a white flag in surrender must be treated as a prisoner .,instead they were shot in cold blood , which begs the question.
Are the tactics to shoot anyone, fighter , or civilian?
AHA, but you see they were wearing jeans and Hamas also wears jeans sometimes.

I fear they were to busy with ethnic cleansing of the area to check the ID's.
Dec 17, 2023 8:45 AM CST 3 hostages killed by IDF
Len05: AHA, but you see they were wearing jeans and Hamas also wears jeans sometimes.

I fear they were to busy with ethnic cleansing of the area to check the ID's.
That is weak, to put it nicely.
Ethnic cleansing of Gaza?
That would be very easy. 8th of october and til today.
You know why that would be easy?
Cos there are now Jews in Gaza. It's ethnic clean aleready. Juden-rein.
So you could just carpet bomb the whole area without chosing targets even.
And about 2.2 out of 2.3 million would be dead now.
That is what the Palestinians would have done if the situation was reversed by the way
be sure of that.

Israel is not ethnic cleansing nothing, unless if you claim Hamas is a race.
Dec 17, 2023 10:07 AM CST 3 hostages killed by IDF
Len05
Len05Len05Antwerp, Antwerpen Belgium33 Threads 11 Polls 972 Posts
It is still ethnic cleansing of an area.

Who said you need to kill everyone to get that definition?

They are bombing their houses, schools, hospitals, reporters, boats, ....
Stopping the fuel, power, water, food, medicines, ...
They are making the area unliveable at the moment.
And trying to push as many people out.

It is a bit the same as the decennia before just with more bombs and less basic necessities now.
For years people leaving Gaza weren't allowed back in.

Israel wants the people out and the territory under their ownership.
Dec 17, 2023 10:19 AM CST 3 hostages killed by IDF
Len05: It is still ethnic cleansing of an area.

Who said you need to kill everyone to get that definition?
Many call it a genocide. You on the genocide train then maybe,
as in my book ethnic cleansing is a bout making a group homogenious,
at least more so.

But don't worry I get it. You just used that word cos it's loaded.
I understand.
Dec 17, 2023 10:19 AM CST 3 hostages killed by IDF
Len05
Len05Len05Antwerp, Antwerpen Belgium33 Threads 11 Polls 972 Posts
The article is in dutch.
Hamas wears "jeans and sneakers" so did these hostages surrendering.



New information from the Israeli army shows that the three men in question were carrying white homemade flags and were not wearing a T-shirt. They emerged from a building a few dozen meters from the Israeli troops. A soldier “felt threatened” and opened fire. Two died immediately, a third was able to flee back into the building. But he was also killed afterwards - despite the commander's requests to stop shooting.

agari made it clear that the area is an active combat zone. The troops were reportedly already ambushed. Moreover, attackers are often said to be out and about in “jeans and sneakers”. It is being investigated whether there is a connection with a nearby house on which the letters SOS were placed. It is also unclear whether the men were able to escape their captors or were deliberately left behind.
Dec 17, 2023 10:31 AM CST 3 hostages killed by IDF
Len05: AHA, but you see they were wearing jeans and Hamas also wears jeans sometimes.

I fear they were to busy with ethnic cleansing of the area to check the ID's.
Ethnic Cleansing?
Better look up the meaning of that term again,instead of accepting the UN's and EU's garbage-interpretation of it.comfort
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