Brilliant or Underhanded?? ( Archived) (17)

Nov 24, 2007 10:51 AM CST Brilliant or Underhanded??
wikked
wikkedwikkedAjax, Ontario Canada655 Threads 4 Polls 6,091 Posts
I have just been recruited and hired by a large company here in Ontario (owned by the Disney Corp., so not a fly by night establishment)...
I was brought on board with several other new managers (some i have worked with in the past) to "clean house" at their largest store in North America....

The General Manager was brought from another one of their own branches in which she apparently made successful...but after working with her for a few weeks now...what i have noticed is that she doesn't actually "do" anything that i would consider "management", but rather surrounds herself with people she knows can "get the job done"....and at the end of the day she "shines"....

My question to you is....is what she is doing underhanded or a brilliant strategy on her part?
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Nov 24, 2007 10:53 AM CST Brilliant or Underhanded??
Roguecop
RoguecopRoguecopElko, Nevada USA218 Threads 3,885 Posts
Sounds like she knows who and what to have around her, a ot of executives do this.
I understand how it could make you wonder though.
And I haven't been to Disneyland in years .


Chaz
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Nov 24, 2007 10:58 AM CST Brilliant or Underhanded??
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Smart people hire smarter people.....
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Nov 24, 2007 11:00 AM CST Brilliant or Underhanded??
wikked
wikkedwikkedAjax, Ontario Canada655 Threads 4 Polls 6,091 Posts
I myself have not been to disneyland in a couple of years....but i'm sure i'm tall enough to get on "the" ride....laugh devil


We are split down the middle at the store as to who is unhappy with this and who sees this as an "executive" move...

Some want to be acknowledged personally for their hard work, some are happy to be part of the "dream team"...
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Nov 24, 2007 11:01 AM CST Brilliant or Underhanded??
wikked
wikkedwikkedAjax, Ontario Canada655 Threads 4 Polls 6,091 Posts
Absolutely brilliant...i'll have to remember that one to tell them when i go in today....handshake cheers
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Nov 24, 2007 11:02 AM CST Brilliant or Underhanded??
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
My advise is free........


Hiring a dummy makes ya look dumb....thumbs up
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Nov 24, 2007 11:03 AM CST Brilliant or Underhanded??
The_NuttyTart
The_NuttyTartThe_NuttyTartexeter, Devon, England UK2 Threads 127 Posts
I'd say she is good at getting a team together to get things done but by the same token she should be acknowledging members of her team and giving praise where it's due.
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Nov 24, 2007 11:09 AM CST Brilliant or Underhanded??
The job of a general manager is to focus on the big picture and to manage the managers so to speak. The worst thing a GM can do is to "do things" rather he/she should have a talent for acquiring the people who can get the job done and if she shines, I would say she is doing the job she was hired to do.
A good GM should have excellent interpersonal skills and inate leadership qualities.
The worst kind of GM is one who micro manages a dept by getting involved in every nit picking task because she can't trust her subordinates to do it right.
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Nov 24, 2007 11:09 AM CST Brilliant or Underhanded??
wikked
wikkedwikkedAjax, Ontario Canada655 Threads 4 Polls 6,091 Posts
I don't think management team thinks she is "acknowleding" their contribution...and its unfortunate....
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Nov 24, 2007 11:14 AM CST Brilliant or Underhanded??
wikked
wikkedwikkedAjax, Ontario Canada655 Threads 4 Polls 6,091 Posts
I have to agree with you...that is the way i see it...that she was being a brilliant manager....

The interpersonal skill and inate leadership qualities is questionable...to a degree i feel that the respect one gets as a manager she felt came with the title rather than her "earning" it...

You're right...i would not have cared to be "micro-managed"...I was hired to do a job...i'm doing it...and as long as we are seeing favourable results i want to be left to do my job....
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Nov 24, 2007 11:14 AM CST Brilliant or Underhanded??
bajanblue
bajanbluebajanblueSpeightstown, Saint Peter Barbados344 Threads 1 Polls 3,724 Posts
It is not a walk in the park surrounding oneself with people of that calibre, and people who don't give credit to the team once it is assembled and working are heading for a crash.

A really good manager lets the higher-ups know that the shine is reflected from the stars working for her.

Of course higher ups worth their salt already know that.

It is good strategy IMO.
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Nov 24, 2007 11:19 AM CST Brilliant or Underhanded??
catwm
catwmcatwmSomewhere in the middle, Florida USA48 Threads 6,683 Posts
A good General manager would surround themselves with " brilliant " workers so that he/she would look good.

This manager sounds like they have provided the means to make themselves appear efficient while others " do the work ".




ps: you are beautiful.
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Nov 24, 2007 11:22 AM CST Brilliant or Underhanded??
wikked
wikkedwikkedAjax, Ontario Canada655 Threads 4 Polls 6,091 Posts
Perhaps that is the reason for the "unrest" right now...as you so well put it being surrounded by people of that "calibre"...we are not followers..we are all leaders...but there can only be one "chief"....sigh

It just seems that the more we seem to get the store up and running to its full potential...the more the resentment is building....
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Nov 24, 2007 11:23 AM CST Brilliant or Underhanded??
catwm
catwmcatwmSomewhere in the middle, Florida USA48 Threads 6,683 Posts
A good General manager would surround themselves with " brilliant " workers so that he/she would look good.

This manager sounds like they have provided the means to make themselves appear efficient while others " do the work ".




ps: you are beautiful.
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Nov 24, 2007 11:25 AM CST Brilliant or Underhanded??
catwm
catwmcatwmSomewhere in the middle, Florida USA48 Threads 6,683 Posts
A good General manager would surround themselves with " brilliant " workers so that he/she would look good.

This manager sounds like they have provided the means to make themselves appear efficient while others " do the work ".




ps: you are beautiful.
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Nov 24, 2007 1:48 PM CST Brilliant or Underhanded??
mbcasey
mbcaseymbcaseyNorth Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA68 Threads 7 Polls 16,449 Posts
Like others have said, the GM is doing what she should be.

Sounds like she has given you motivation to become GM yourself.....another great service she provided!
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Nov 24, 2007 1:55 PM CST Brilliant or Underhanded??
constanza
constanzaconstanzaLA, California USA28 Threads 1 Polls 5,159 Posts
At that level it's not about micro managing or getting her own hands dirty. It's about producing, bottom line, and she is getting the job done by delegating well and overseeing the larger picture. wine
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