Conrad73: Well I am sure you Support helps a lot!!!
Maybe....just Maybe Conrad and thats fine with me !
Whom Am I when it counts you see?
I am just a simple dude having my own simple ideas a bout a better world for all of us and becuase of that I participate!
Your never ending nagging does not help any one any way either, but still you keep nagging both in here but also other places when I write some thing...but You have the right to keep Nagging Conrad you see?
I know Swiss being a neutral country might not have been affected that much becuase of the Bushneys and actually your country has gained a lot because more criminals has stealed the wealth of the other countries and have hided the money in Swiss banks but still......you could care for others whom say they have been hurt at least?
Find a dictionary and look up the word 'proportion' or 'proportionality'.
In the political primary deligate assignment...it means the 1 Republican deligate represents so many voted Republican voters. That each diligate represent that same number of voters. It is tricky. But following this?
Same for the Dems. Both use proporitonality to determine the number of deligiates a state gets for thier convention.
Because of the size of the country and number of voters, proportionality is the only way for the major parties to have a convention with a sizeable number of deligates representing the primary voters. End result...no big deal whether you have 4049 deligates or 2700 deligates.
Various states have different rules....some will split the diligate by the percentage of the votes. Others will give all to the winner.
The difference in the floor diligiate number, effects only two things.
1) Number need for a majority for a nomination 2) The difference in actually number of voter represented by a single diligate
By the way....purely for info....not for controversey....Florida Dem said no redo for Florida. Michigan is still a possibility for re do vote.
Trust me on this Dude.....proportionality is fair. It has been tested in our courts several times. Passes the test.
Hot_Single_Dude: Maybe....just Maybe Conrad and thats fine with me !
Whom Am I when it counts you see?
I am just a simple dude having my own simple ideas a bout a better world for all of us and becuase of that I participate!
Your never ending nagging does not help any one any way either, but still you keep nagging both in here but also other places when I write some thing...but You have the right to keep Nagging Conrad you see?
I know Swiss being a neutral country might not have been affected that much becuase of the Bushneys and actually your country has gained a lot because more criminals has stealed the wealth of the other countries and have hided the money in Swiss banks but still......you could care for others whom say they have been hurt at least?
So you finally think you ought to take the Gloves off. Let me give YOU some Advice,Sunshine. Better put them back on,unless you want mine to come of. You don't even have the Guts to say which Country you're originally from,but keep on attacking everyone else. Makes you a Hypocrite in my eyes!!
spiceygamble: ...just another voter in America who will NOT be voting for Obama strolling through. Seen enough BS to know better than to vote it into office.
Find a dictionary and look up the word 'proportion' or 'proportionality'.
In the political primary deligate assignment...it means the 1 Republican deligate represents so many voted Republican voters. That each diligate represent that same number of voters. It is tricky. But following this?
Same for the Dems. Both use proporitonality to determine the number of deligiates a state gets for thier convention.
Because of the size of the country and number of voters, proportionality is the only way for the major parties to have a convention with a sizeable number of deligates representing the primary voters. End result...no big deal whether you have 4049 deligates or 2700 deligates.
Various states have different rules....some will split the diligate by the percentage of the votes. Others will give all to the winner.
The difference in the floor diligiate number, effects only two things.
1) Number need for a majority for a nomination 2) The difference in actually number of voter represented by a single diligate
By the way....purely for info....not for controversey....Florida Dem said no redo for Florida. Michigan is still a possibility for re do vote.
Trust me on this Dude.....proportionality is fair. It has been tested in our courts several times. Passes the test.
TY for the info TT....
Any way the nomination of McCain is certain and if he is going to be ellected that will happen based on the results of the primaries! Pepole will have to vote any way you know?
And there are only two major politchal parties in America..and I beleive those whom vote for McCain will do it because of fear......so a whole world are going to pay the price a "small" group of americans made while they decided to choose McCain as the main republican nominy!
Thats all I say and if you try to think simple as I do then you maybe will see my point?
Of course I dont know enough a bout american voting system but this is what I think a bout and I am sure many others thinking exactly the same.
I am totaly sure even America is this huge it is possible to make another kind of voting system where the popular votes only deciding the out come But when i say so it is not because I tell the system is totaly unfair. I have just noticed a simple Inconvenient "fact" thats all!
Conrad73: So you finally think you ought to take the Gloves off. Let me give YOU some Advice,Sunshine. Better put them back on,unless you want mine to come of. You don't even have the Guts to say which Country you're originally from,but keep on attacking everyone else. Makes you a Hypocrite in my eyes!!
Actually Conrad my participation in here is definately not to socialising with you and I would never socialise with your type at all you see? In CS I am Hot Single Dude and thats it! Any thing I write if you are not agree try your best and write some thing else?
you have been taking your gloves off long time a go Conrad so mine was also taken off When i saw your endless naggings any way possible a bout what I write and you answer for every body as well....Really truely I have guts but I never show all of it to an old tired proffesor you know?
Hypocrite...sure I might be! Live with it Conrad or tell some thing reasonable for gud sake! You just nag ang nag and nag!!!!!
Go heil your McCain and Bush and all those in your own treat will you not?
Any way the nomination of McCain is certain and if he is going to be ellected that will happen based on the results of the primaries! Pepole will have to vote any way you know?
And there are only two major politchal parties in America..and I beleive those whom vote for McCain will do it because of fear......so a whole world are going to pay the price a "small" group of americans made while they decided to choose McCain as the main republican nominy!
Thats all I say and if you try to think simple as I do then you maybe will see my point?
Of course I dont know enough a bout american voting system but this is what I think a bout and I am sure many others thinking exactly the same.
I am totaly sure even America is this huge it is possible to make another kind of voting system where the popular votes only deciding the out come But when i say so it is not because I tell the system is totaly unfair. I have just noticed a simple Inconvenient "fact" thats all!
I don't know why TT tries to make something simple seem complicated. Maybe to confuse you. Yes, each state is assigned delegates based on the number of people in the state. But as long as you know the # of delegates needed, I think you know much more than many Americans.
Hot_Single_Dude: Thank you for your support my dear. I am not wonder why you called your profile Opalbeauty at all! You are truely beutiful
And beside there are millions of other beautiful and wonderful people in America whom really are treated unfair because of a "handfull" of politicians whom has done wrong and their mistakes has made all the country paying a huge price!
I am totaly honored being a part of a movement whom really truely think that the whole matter of being a gainst America as a nation is totaly unfair and as told before....there are no where else on earth where so many wonderful people living as it is the case in America!
Me and bilions of others have been raised with America as the country whom we admire and we have all been raised with Disney in our childhoods and wonderful american movies and wonderful american personalities as our idols and then Bush came along and made many people loosing their faith a bout the country unfortunatily! I have not lost my faith a bout America and thats why I Care!
Bush and his Dynasty is not America! He and his people on power are just a bunch of folks whom are truely terrible taking care of their jobs and they have made the whole country and the rest of us well paying because of their horrible way of thinking!
Enough is enough and thats why I care!
Thank you for this very nice compliment. And thanks for being you, an intelligent, wise and caring human being.
opalbeauty: I don't know why TT tries to make something simple seem complicated. Maybe to confuse you. Yes, each state is assigned delegates based on the number of people in the state. But as long as you know the # of delegates needed, I think you know much more than many Americans.
Ty beauty dear This is what I call really simple but truely complete kind of exchanging informations!
It is not a bout wanting at all my friend! It is all a bout the way we feel and a bout the way we think world can becoming a better place for all of us!
spiceygamble: ...just another voter in America who will NOT be voting for Obama strolling through. Seen enough BS to know better than to vote it into office.
Find a dictionary and look up the word 'proportion' or 'proportionality'.
In the political primary deligate assignment...it means the 1 Republican deligate represents so many voted Republican voters. That each diligate represent that same number of voters. It is tricky. But following this?
Same for the Dems. Both use proporitonality to determine the number of deligiates a state gets for thier convention.
Because of the size of the country and number of voters, proportionality is the only way for the major parties to have a convention with a sizeable number of deligates representing the primary voters. Various states have different rules....some will split the diligate by the percentage of the votes. Others will give all to the winner.
The difference in the floor diligiate number, effects only two things.
1) Number need for a majority for a nomination 2) The difference in actually number of voter represented by a single diligate
By the way....purely for info....not for controversey....Florida Dem said no redo for Florida. Michigan is still a possibility for re do vote.
Trust me on this Dude.....proportionality is fair. It has been tested in our courts several times. Passes the test.
I'm sorry TT, this is hard for me to follow. I 'm not trying to insult you. I just don't know what you mean by "End result...no big deal whether you have 4049 deligates or 2700 deligates."
I understand it better from reading this... To become the Democratic nominee for president, a candidate has to be nominated by a majority of delegates attending the Democratic National Convention in Denver, Colorado, in August 2008...
What types of Democratic delegates are there?
"The Democratic Party has two types of delegates: Pledged and superdelegates.
Out of the total number of delegates, 3,253 are pledged. A pledged delegate is elected or chosen on the state and local level with the understanding that they will support a particular candidate at the convention.
However, pledged delegates are not actually bound to vote for the candidate. Consequently, candidates are allowed on a state-by-state basis to review lists of delegates who have pledged their support and can delete anyone whose support they consider unreliable.
Superdelegates [created in 1982] comprise 796 out of the total 4,049 delegates. Superdelegates are usually Democratic members of Congress, governors, national committee members or party leaders (such as former presidents and vice presidents). They are not required to indicate a preference for a candidate, nor do they compete for the privilege like pledged delegates..."
[Read a complete list of the 2008 Superdelegates]
How are Democratic delegates awarded after a primary or caucus is held?
"The Democratic Party uses proportional representation to decide how many pledged delegates are awarded to each candidate.
For instance, a candidate who wins 40 percent of the vote in a state's primary would essentially win 40 percent of that state's pledged delegates. A second-place finisher in that primary who wins 30 percent of the vote essentially gets 30 percent of the pledged delegates.
However, a candidate has to receive at least 15 percent of the vote to get any pledged delegates... There is no official process to win superdelegates because they can vote for whomever they please. But a candidate can use whatever powers of persuasion they have at their disposal to win the support of a superdelegate."
opalbeauty: I'm sorry TT, this is hard for me to follow. I 'm not trying to insult you. I just don't know what you mean by "End result...no big deal whether you have 4049 deligates or 2700 deligates."
I understand it better from reading this... To become the Democratic nominee for president, a candidate has to be nominated by a majority of delegates attending the Democratic National Convention in Denver, Colorado, in August 2008...
What types of Democratic delegates are there?
"The Democratic Party has two types of delegates: Pledged and superdelegates.
Out of the total number of delegates, 3,253 are pledged. A pledged delegate is elected or chosen on the state and local level with the understanding that they will support a particular candidate at the convention.
However, pledged delegates are not actually bound to vote for the candidate. Consequently, candidates are allowed on a state-by-state basis to review lists of delegates who have pledged their support and can delete anyone whose support they consider unreliable.
Superdelegates [created in 1982] comprise 796 out of the total 4,049 delegates. Superdelegates are usually Democratic members of Congress, governors, national committee members or party leaders (such as former presidents and vice presidents). They are not required to indicate a preference for a candidate, nor do they compete for the privilege like pledged delegates..."
[Read a complete list of the 2008 Superdelegates]
How are Democratic delegates awarded after a primary or caucus is held?
"The Democratic Party uses proportional representation to decide how many pledged delegates are awarded to each candidate.
For instance, a candidate who wins 40 percent of the vote in a state's primary would essentially win 40 percent of that state's pledged delegates. A second-place finisher in that primary who wins 30 percent of the vote essentially gets 30 percent of the pledged delegates.
However, a candidate has to receive at least 15 percent of the vote to get any pledged delegates... There is no official process to win superdelegates because they can vote for whomever they please. But a candidate can use whatever powers of persuasion they have at their disposal to win the support of a superdelegate."
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