Obama Is Just Like Bush! (36)
I read this article and recalled a point I had tried to make on a thread I posted a couple of months back. It was regarding the Council on Foreign Relations or CFR. The Think Tank, in particular...
They already have plans for foreign policy drawn up and ready to put into the hands of the next President.
This War in Iraq... the Think Tank establishes policy and what and when things will occur. Not the President!!!!
It is very obvious to see this now.
Obama will be NO DIFFERENT than any of the other creeps!
I just think of the song by the "Who"... Meet the New Boss...
Same as the Old Boss! Don't Get Fooled Again!
Some are so ignorant!
They already have plans for foreign policy drawn up and ready to put into the hands of the next President.
This War in Iraq... the Think Tank establishes policy and what and when things will occur. Not the President!!!!
It is very obvious to see this now.
Obama will be NO DIFFERENT than any of the other creeps!
I just think of the song by the "Who"... Meet the New Boss...
Same as the Old Boss! Don't Get Fooled Again!
Some are so ignorant!
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Yep,same Horse,Different Rider!
It's the Nature Of The Beast.
Political Heads Come and go.
Civil Service stays,and they tend to do Things as usual.
It's the Nature Of The Beast.
Political Heads Come and go.
Civil Service stays,and they tend to do Things as usual.
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HealthyLiving: I read this article and recalled a point I had tried to make on a thread I posted a couple of months back. It was regarding the Council on Foreign Relations or CFR. The Think Tank, in particular...
They already have plans for foreign policy drawn up and ready to put into the hands of the next President.
This War in Iraq... the Think Tank establishes policy and what and when things will occur. Not the President!!!!
It is very obvious to see this now.
Obama will be NO DIFFERENT than any of the other creeps!
I just think of the song by the "Who"... Meet the New Boss...
Same as the Old Boss! Don't Get Fooled Again!Some are so ignorant!
They already have plans for foreign policy drawn up and ready to put into the hands of the next President.
This War in Iraq... the Think Tank establishes policy and what and when things will occur. Not the President!!!!
It is very obvious to see this now.
Obama will be NO DIFFERENT than any of the other creeps!
I just think of the song by the "Who"... Meet the New Boss...
Same as the Old Boss! Don't Get Fooled Again!Some are so ignorant!
OH, I just knew that you would be SO Thrilled hearing and seeing those 2 clown puppets at the AIPAC meeting, falling all over themselves in proclaiming american subservience to the Zionists...(so what else is new...) %D
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Read my lips, no new agendas.
Or was it taxes?
My memory sucks.
Or was it taxes?
My memory sucks.
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Has anyone else noticed that since the beginning, we have been waiting to hear something positive about Obama, especially what he specifically means when he keeps throwing around the word "change", but all we ever get is MORE negative information? And the democrats actually gave him the nomination? Amazing.
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It really isent gpoing to matter what we say or do now, I really dont believe we can do anything about it. What will be will be. Even if some people dont like it, it is going to happen...
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allready: It really isent gpoing to matter what we say or do now, I really dont believe we can do anything about it. What will be will be. Even if some people dont like it, it is going to happen...
Apathetic and Complacent!
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HealthyLiving: I read this article and recalled a point I had tried to make on a thread I posted a couple of months back. It was regarding the Council on Foreign Relations or CFR. The Think Tank, in particular...
They already have plans for foreign policy drawn up and ready to put into the hands of the next President.
This War in Iraq... the Think Tank establishes policy and what and when things will occur. Not the President!!!!
It is very obvious to see this now.
Obama will be NO DIFFERENT than any of the other creeps!
I just think of the song by the "Who"... Meet the New Boss...
Same as the Old Boss! Don't Get Fooled Again!Some are so ignorant!
They already have plans for foreign policy drawn up and ready to put into the hands of the next President.
This War in Iraq... the Think Tank establishes policy and what and when things will occur. Not the President!!!!
It is very obvious to see this now.
Obama will be NO DIFFERENT than any of the other creeps!
I just think of the song by the "Who"... Meet the New Boss...
Same as the Old Boss! Don't Get Fooled Again!Some are so ignorant!
Oh man....the nature of politics....
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StressFree: Oh man....the nature of politics....
It's so sad, isn't it!? It just aint even right!!!
They won't even allow an honest person who is for the people, to gain a fair chance at getting elected cos they control the media too!
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allready: It really isent gpoing to matter what we say or do now, I really dont believe we can do anything about it. What will be will be. Even if some people dont like it, it is going to happen...
you are soooo right. There is nothing we can do. As the OP pointed out, the plans and schemes are already in place, to be handed to the next president!. We are all pawns of the super elite!
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Where is dude when we need him! 
What happened to him anyway? I noticed the Obama quadrangle thread were missing. Did they nuke each other in there?
What happened to him anyway? I noticed the Obama quadrangle thread were missing. Did they nuke each other in there?
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WTF? Nothing we can do? What happened to voting against him?????????????????????????????????????
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trublu: WTF? Nothing we can do? What happened to voting against him?????????????????????????????????????
To paraphrase the Diebolt Corporation (they make the voting machines that any idiot can hack into and change your votes or be preprogrammed to alter your vote if you vote for "the wrong candidate"): 'Go ahead and vote, the election has already been decided, whether you vote or not...so go ahead exercise your right to vote.'
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Come mid January, you'll find there is no difference between any of the candidates.
Now they say whatever it takes to get elcted! President of the United States of America, looks good on a resume!
Whoever gets elected, will continue the same policies that are in place now!! Except maybe the troop withdrawal will go faster with O'Bama.
JMO, of course
Now they say whatever it takes to get elcted! President of the United States of America, looks good on a resume!
Whoever gets elected, will continue the same policies that are in place now!! Except maybe the troop withdrawal will go faster with O'Bama.
JMO, of course
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HealthyLiving: It's so sad, isn't it!? It just aint even right!!!
They won't even allow an honest person who is for the people, to gain a fair chance at getting elected cos they control the media too!
They won't even allow an honest person who is for the people, to gain a fair chance at getting elected cos they control the media too!
You mean, like Ron Paul (someone the powers the be couldn't control)?
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Well, I suppose we always have one remedy left, assasination is always an option for those who think the election has already been decided.
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I'll be the first to admit I do not know all the secrets facts of all the conflicts we are involved in.
multinational corporations having more and more power within all types of government rule... this one fact is obvious to me, my needs and wants are not an issue or a concern with the political machine that is greased, fueled, and ran by these numerous multi-national corporations, regardless of what party affiliation these "elected" types claim.
multinational corporations having more and more power within all types of government rule... this one fact is obvious to me, my needs and wants are not an issue or a concern with the political machine that is greased, fueled, and ran by these numerous multi-national corporations, regardless of what party affiliation these "elected" types claim.
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alabamabebe: Where is dude when we need him!
What happened to him anyway? I noticed the Obama quadrangle thread were missing. Did they nuke each other in there?
What happened to him anyway? I noticed the Obama quadrangle thread were missing. Did they nuke each other in there?
In defense of the Obama thread...
OK I admit it. The Obama thread is pretty rough and sometimes gets very heated...but you know what? There IS a sense of respect amongst the participants. Hell, Dude was genuinely trying to set me up with someone yesterday! So everyone is welcome, IMO. You will need a coat of armour and some boxing gloves - but I don't think there's nearly as many "hateful" posts in there as I've seen elsewhere. Just a rough sport, that's all.
JMHO...Back to my sandbox
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Follow the money.
If the US fathers of the constitution had spent time building a value based financial system into the constituion, it is unlikely the world would be where it is today. To bad too because those guys were pretty smart about all the rest.
As it is, in this debt feeds the rich system, bush and any other moron with ideas of power need only borrow a few gazillion bucks for their war machine (which the financiers encourage, and sometimes instigate, by the way)
As long as people can write IOU's they'll use it for whatever pleasures or heinoius acts they can contrive. Money coming from thin air is a powerbrokers dream.
I doubt john hancock would ever have signed his name to such an inequitable and destructive system.
If the US fathers of the constitution had spent time building a value based financial system into the constituion, it is unlikely the world would be where it is today. To bad too because those guys were pretty smart about all the rest.
As it is, in this debt feeds the rich system, bush and any other moron with ideas of power need only borrow a few gazillion bucks for their war machine (which the financiers encourage, and sometimes instigate, by the way)
As long as people can write IOU's they'll use it for whatever pleasures or heinoius acts they can contrive. Money coming from thin air is a powerbrokers dream.
I doubt john hancock would ever have signed his name to such an inequitable and destructive system.
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After all, he doesn't see the region much differently than President Bush does.
Saturday, June 7, 2008; Page A14
The Washington Post
IN THE HEAT of the Democratic primary campaign, some on the left were inspired to believe that Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) offered a far-reaching transformation of U.S. foreign policy, "the most sweeping liberal foreign-policy critique we've heard from a serious presidential contender in decades," as one particularly breathless article in the American Prospect put it. Yet, when Mr. Obama opened his general election campaign this week with a major speech on Middle East policy, the substantive strategy he outlined was, in many respects, not very much different from that of the Bush administration -- or that of Republican Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.). That's not a bad thing; rather, it's a demonstration that there is a strong bipartisan consensus about America's vital interests in the Middle East and that the sensible options for defending them are relatively limited.
Liberal notions of a foreign policy shakeup sometimes begin -- and end -- with a cooling of U.S. support for Israel. But in his speech to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), a lobbying group, delivered hours after he clinched the Democratic nomination, Mr. Obama was so forceful in backing the military, economic and territorial interests of the Jewish state that he later had to offer a clarification, pointing out that his endorsement of an "undivided" Jerusalem did not mean he ruled out Israeli-Palestinian negotiations over the final status of the city.
Mr. Obama was equally hawkish about Iran. Hedging his much-discussed offer to meet personally with President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad -- now the encounter would be with "the appropriate Iranian leader at a time and place of my choosing, if and only if, it can advance the interests of the United States" -- Mr. Obama fully embraced the Bush administration's view that "the danger from Iran is grave." He said "we will use all elements of American power to pressure Iran," and he pledged, "I will do everything in my power to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon -- everything."
What would he do? In essence, Mr. Obama promises an improved version of the Bush administration's three-year-old strategy of offering, in conjunction with European allies and Russia, economic and political favors to Iran in exchange for an end to its nuclear program and threatening it with sanctions if it refuses. Mr. Obama would have the United States join the Europeans in having direct discussions with Tehran, and perhaps he would agree to bigger incentives. In exchange, he would seek European and U.N. Security Council support for far tougher sanctions than the Bush administration has obtained -- such as a ban on Iranian gasoline imports, which is probably the strongest measure available short of war.
The gap in Mr. Obama's Middle East policy remains Iraq. Mr. Obama has used his opposition to the war to distinguish himself politically from Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) and now from Mr. McCain. Yet, in doing so, he has become unreasonably wedded to a year-old proposal to rapidly withdraw all U.S. combat forces from the country -- a plan offered when he wrongly believed that the situation would only worsen as long as American troops remained. Remarkably, only a sentence or two about Iraq appeared in Mr. Obama's AIPAC speech, and advisers say he may visit the country in coming months. That would offer him the opportunity to outline a strategy based on sustaining the dramatic reduction in violence recorded this year. No, the left wouldn't like it, but it would be in keeping with Mr. Obama's pragmatic approach to the rest of the region.