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Aug 12, 2008 7:01 AM CST Can smoking be "social"?
simpleparadox
simpleparadoxsimpleparadoxDubai, United Arab Emirates37 Threads 119 Posts
Many a profiles on dating sites say that the person whose profile u r visting smokes socially!

Smoking indeed is an adult choice. Yet, I wonder whether there can be such a thing as "smoking socially"? Can smoking really be social, even if it is to socialize with those who smoke?
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Aug 12, 2008 7:05 AM CST Can smoking be "social"?
shipoker55
shipoker55shipoker55St. Petersburg, Florida USA211 Threads 2 Polls 9,362 Posts
simpleparadox: Many a profiles on dating sites say that the person whose profile u r visting smokes socially!

Smoking indeed is an adult choice. Yet, I wonder whether there can be such a thing as "smoking socially"? Can smoking really be social, even if it is to socialize with those who smoke?






In a word......YES
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Aug 12, 2008 7:05 AM CST Can smoking be "social"?
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
simpleparadox: Many a profiles on dating sites say that the person whose profile u r visting smokes socially!

Smoking indeed is an adult choice. Yet, I wonder whether there can be such a thing as "smoking socially"? Can smoking really be social, even if it is to socialize with those who smoke?



There are two elements to this.

In profiles, I believe that smoking socially means exactly that. In a social environment.

Is smoking social?

Depends on who you are with?

In the UK it is banned from public places.

Where I live in Austria, it is not.

If I am with people who smoke then I will, if I am in a group with people who do not smoke then I will not.

I do not smoke in my house, car, I go outside.

So the smoking ban has not troubled me, because I do it at home.
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Aug 12, 2008 7:15 AM CST Can smoking be "social"?
In a word....NO

Nicotine is a powerful addictive narcotic....Period!

Sorry but claiming to smoke "socially" is a cop out. It proves the smoker is in denial about being addicted to nicotine.
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Aug 12, 2008 7:19 AM CST Can smoking be "social"?
HondoLaneNJ
HondoLaneNJHondoLaneNJtoms river, New Jersey USA4 Threads 694 Posts
ooby_dooby: In a word....NO

Nicotine is a powerful addictive narcotic....Period!

Sorry but claiming to smoke "socially" is a cop out. It proves the smoker is in denial about being addicted to nicotine.


Hmmm..I dunno: I do know someone who only smokes when she is out with other smokers...never smokes at home, in the car or whatever...so I guess that is, technically, "social" smoking...?

Me, I'm trying to quit....it's hard because I never quit anything in my life...not sure I want to start now...rolling on the floor laughing
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Aug 12, 2008 7:23 AM CST Can smoking be "social"?
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
ooby_dooby: In a word....NO

Nicotine is a powerful addictive narcotic....Period!

Sorry but claiming to smoke "socially" is a cop out. It proves the smoker is in denial about being addicted to nicotine.



No apology necessary.

But the question is there.

In our profiles.

A person who smokes three a day is addicted, same as a person who smokes 20 a day.

But a smoker who is respectful of those around them is a different matter.

It does not prove that a person is in denial about being addicted at all.

Like saying that a person who has a glass of wine each night, is in denial about being addicted.

An addiction is when the choice is taken away.

I do not smoke for days on end, usually when I have a drink and am with certain people.

Does that make me addicted to both?

Or am I in denial?
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Aug 12, 2008 7:28 AM CST Can smoking be "social"?
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
You have to have someone to pass the spliff to.



peace
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Aug 12, 2008 8:33 AM CST Can smoking be "social"?
Sommerauer71: No apology necessary.

But the question is there.

In our profiles.

A person who smokes three a day is addicted, same as a person who smokes 20 a day.

But a smoker who is respectful of those around them is a different matter.

It does not prove that a person is in denial about being addicted at all.

Like saying that a person who has a glass of wine each night, is in denial about being addicted.

An addiction is when the choice is taken away.

I do not smoke for days on end, usually when I have a drink and am with certain people.

Does that make me addicted to both?

Or am I in denial?


I'm throwing stones from inside a glass house being addicted to caffeine (coffee) but I drank coffee since childhood. It use to be considered very bad for you but that didn't stop me. Fortunately the latest studies show coffee isn't nearly as bad as it was once thought so now I don't worry about it anymore.
Unlike you, if I was with a group of smokers I would be forced to leave which I have done more than once. Either go to another room or leave altogether. I've actually walked out of a concert that I paid $25.00 for tickets for because virtually everybody in the place was smoking.
I don't take issue with people who smoke, I take issue with the insidious tobacco plant itself. It has taken a lot of wonderful friends and people well before their time.
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Aug 12, 2008 8:39 AM CST Can smoking be "social"?
shipoker55
shipoker55shipoker55St. Petersburg, Florida USA211 Threads 2 Polls 9,362 Posts
ooby_dooby: In a word....NO

Nicotine is a powerful addictive narcotic....Period!

Sorry but claiming to smoke "socially" is a cop out. It proves the smoker is in denial about being addicted to nicotine.




so that is to say you can't be a social drinker, too??


Nicotine alchohol is a powerful addictive narcotic....Period!
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Aug 12, 2008 8:44 AM CST Can smoking be "social"?
shipoker55
shipoker55shipoker55St. Petersburg, Florida USA211 Threads 2 Polls 9,362 Posts
shipoker55: In a word......YES





I am a total social smoker and drinker. I live alone and do not smoke or drink at home. I do, however, drink and smoke a cigar when I am at karaoke. This being my only social event. Sometimes I only drink soda ans still smoke a cigar. Sometimes I drink gin and tonic and don't smoke at all. You can, indeed be a social smoker
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Aug 12, 2008 8:52 AM CST Can smoking be "social"?
stefonline
stefonlinestefonlineDublin, Ireland136 Threads 9,702 Posts
simpleparadox: Many a profiles on dating sites say that the person whose profile u r visting smokes socially!

Smoking indeed is an adult choice. Yet, I wonder whether there can be such a thing as "smoking socially"? Can smoking really be social, even if it is to socialize with those who smoke?








No Smoking allowed on my turf or time........head banger
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Aug 12, 2008 8:56 AM CST Can smoking be "social"?
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
Whilst it is imo one of the most disgusting of habits it can be considered sociable depending on your social group however keep in mind that this does not make it suddenly any better or worse a habit it just means that you are among likeminded people
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Aug 12, 2008 8:59 AM CST Can smoking be "social"?
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
Sommerauer71:
Where is acceptable that many of our working men's clubs in Britain have been closed down, because of the smoking ban? .



In Ireland a few places have closed down not because of the ban but because people are getting sick and tired of paying extortionate amounts for a night out very mad
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Aug 12, 2008 9:04 AM CST Can smoking be "social"?
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
crotalus_p: In Ireland a few places have closed down not because of the ban but because people are getting sick and tired of paying extortionate amounts for a night out



Yes, here too, but I could not give a toss about pubs, I do however, care what happens to our old hard working class boys, who enjoyed a couple of pints with their pals and a ciggie and now they have nowhere to go.

Here is some information for you, it you sell specialist cigars, you are exempt from the smoking ban.

Prison you can smoke, Houses of Parliament or in an institiution.

So, you can become a government official, break the law or claim that you are having a nervous breakdown, but you can still smoke, only in Britain.
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Aug 12, 2008 9:05 AM CST Can smoking be "social"?
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
simpleparadox: Many a profiles on dating sites say that the person whose profile u r visting smokes socially!

Smoking indeed is an adult choice. Yet, I wonder whether there can be such a thing as "smoking socially"? Can smoking really be social, even if it is to socialize with those who smoke?


Maybe they mean smoking a joint when they socialize..dunno


devil
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Aug 12, 2008 9:09 AM CST Can smoking be "social"?
crotalus_p
crotalus_pcrotalus_pRush, Dublin Ireland43 Threads 6 Polls 2,789 Posts
In Ireland you have to be in a prison or a secure unit , they used to have smoking rooms in the hospitals but now every one has to go outside you can see a stack of patients outside the main door’s still in their dressing gowns with their drips and catheter bags roll eyes
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Aug 12, 2008 9:11 AM CST Can smoking be "social"?
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
Quite often the very act of smoking whilst in company
is preceeded by a social gesture.
Most smokers would offer others one of their cigarettes
before lighting up.
This seems pretty social to me.


dunno
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Aug 12, 2008 9:15 AM CST Can smoking be "social"?
stefonline
stefonlinestefonlineDublin, Ireland136 Threads 9,702 Posts
crotalus_p: In Ireland you have to be in a prison or a secure unit , they used to have smoking rooms in the hospitals but now every one has to go outside you can see a stack of patients outside the main door’s still in their dressing gowns with their drips and catheter bags



And rightly so................yay yay yay
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Aug 12, 2008 10:53 AM CST Can smoking be "social"?
gongman
gongmangongmanCarcassone, Occitanie France28 Threads 2 Polls 515 Posts
I was in France when the smoking ban was imposed.Apparently being forced to go outside to smoke has actually engineered the circumstances where people strike up a conversation,and this has led to relationships being formed.

Gauloises have a certain "je ne sais quoi" over Woodbines anyway .
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Aug 12, 2008 10:55 AM CST Can smoking be "social"?
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
gongman: I was in France when the smoking ban was imposed.Apparently being forced to go outside to smoke has actually engineered the circumstances where people strike up a conversation,and this has led to relationships being formed.

Gauloises have a certain "je ne sais quoi" over Woodbines anyway .


Nothing wrong with 'Willy Woodbines' my friend.

I cut my smoking teeth on those little devils.grin


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