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Oct 25, 2008 12:55 AM CST Frustrations...?
BarrenPneuma
BarrenPneumaBarrenPneumaGolden Staircase, Ontario Canada87 Threads 3 Polls 1,561 Posts
Do the inherent obstacles of distance keep you separated from the one to whom you know your heart would indelibly be drawn had circumstances of distance not intervened to create seemingly inseparable gulfs?
Are there persons here to whom you would divulge your desires if their profiles were more accepting of contact?
Are there persons on this site who are not seeking to whom you wish you could have the chance to press a case for possibilities of enduring Love?
Do some people cause you to feel less than worthy through no actions of their own other than their presence?

How do you overcome such barriers?
Do you even consider the attempt to overcome these barriers?

I am just curious as to how those of us who are here for the forums and friends only could be negatively impacting the search for Love that is the ultimate purpose of this site.
Personally I see those who are happily engaged in relations, fulfilling enough to allow them to maintain some sembance of presence here, as an educational experience and testament to the grace of Love which most seek. Do others see committed people as a deterent or hindrance much like a single's club filled with married couples?

Just curious, and hopefully not offensive in any way as I value all contributions to these forums from all person's single, looking, married or just taking a break from the rigors of Love's complicated game.hug bouquet
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Oct 25, 2008 12:58 AM CST Frustrations...?
gypsykisses
gypsykissesgypsykissesPort Huron, Michigan USA7 Threads 1 Polls 2,405 Posts
patience is a virtue....however some do not have the patience for the long haul-which makes me wonder

if they even had the patience for the real life long haul.
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Oct 25, 2008 5:53 AM CST Frustrations...?
jbibiza
jbibizajbibizaCasinos, Valencia Spain94 Threads 4 Polls 4,914 Posts
BarrenPneuma: Do the inherent obstacles of distance keep you separated from the one to whom you know your heart would indelibly be drawn had circumstances of distance not intervened to create seemingly inseparable gulfs?
Are there persons here to whom you would divulge your desires if their profiles were more accepting of contact?
Are there persons on this site who are not seeking to whom you wish you could have the chance to press a case for possibilities of enduring Love?
Do some people cause you to feel less than worthy through no actions of their own other than their presence?

How do you overcome such barriers?
Do you even consider the attempt to overcome these barriers?

I am just curious as to how those of us who are here for the forums and friends only could be negatively impacting the search for Love that is the ultimate purpose of this site.
Personally I see those who are happily engaged in relations, fulfilling enough to allow them to maintain some sembance of presence here, as an educational experience and testament to the grace of Love which most seek. Do others see committed people as a deterent or hindrance much like a single's club filled with married couples?

Just curious, and hopefully not offensive in any way as I value all contributions to these forums from all person's single, looking, married or just taking a break from the rigors of Love's complicated game.



While I can be intellectual and wax poetic... at the core of me is a very physical being... I purr under the right caress and arch my back for more... so yes, distance is a huge obstacle for me. There are a couple of men who I find intriguing and would love the opportunity to meet but the reality is that while I enjoy the passionate words and mental intrigue... without the physical act of touching and being held... it soon loses the magic it may have started with.

If someone has a barrier it is for them to lower, not for me.... and I love the input that people in a happy relationship give to this site... it gives us all a bit of hope.
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Oct 25, 2008 6:16 AM CST Frustrations...?
dillinger
dillingerdillingersexxay town, Fife, Scotland UK14 Threads 522 Posts
I don't really understand how those of us who only use the forums to chat can be preventing others from finding what they're looking for. i've seen a few threads about game players and I would imagine they'd be the biggest causes of frustrations. i'm often surprised that people have actually met up and have relationships. that's quite a nice thing and I expect it gives others encouragement. I don't know how those long distance relationships work, it must be tough. expensive too. personally I can barely afford the taxi to work, never mind a plane ticket. poor as a church mouse I am.
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Oct 25, 2008 6:43 AM CST Frustrations...?
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
Sommerauer71: Well, Tony, you put us straight there...

Why do you not care what profiles say? I am confused by your statement...

You see, for me distance is no object, and nor would be entering a long distance relationship, I would make sure that every damn weekend we had plans, that is is easy for me in Europe... Further afield, then I would be reluctant to consider. Simply because I need to have my guy with me, during the week I am ok, I can be apart because of work, but of course, doing the job that I do, I can move anywhere, after my contract has finished of course... I would not have a problem with a weekend only relationship at all, because once May is here, I am free for the summer, as I have the summer off..

I have worked away alot and I had a weekend only situation, with a partner, but we still lived together and he was away all the time too...

So even if you live together there are going to be times that we will be apart...


If a woman's profile says she is looking for men between 25- 30 or 38-50, I'll still drop a line.

I've had nothing but long distance relationships my who life it seems like. When I was first with my kids mother when she was pregnant, I was coming to Sweden every three months until I decided to move.

Anyways, I see the merits with your point Tracey. It totally makes sense and if someone is willing, then distance will never be a factor. Things can change over time and I am always open to change. That is all....
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Oct 25, 2008 6:48 AM CST Frustrations...?
Darkhorseman
DarkhorsemanDarkhorsemanGladstonia ... it's a strange, Queensland Australia40 Threads 3 Polls 1,304 Posts
If I may quote Spock ... The Vulcan, not the psychiatrist.

"Having is not always as pleasurable as wanting. It is not logical but it is often true."

Old Spock was worth listening to.
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Oct 25, 2008 6:57 AM CST Frustrations...?
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
Very interesting thread.

My profile clearly states my reasons for being here. Now, if a man living on the other end of the globe wants to believe that by flirting with me, he's going to have my heart, then i really can't be blamed for that. Some men have stopped talking to me, when i've gently reminded them that i am not looking for anything long distance, after recieving friendly emails ( no strings attached) from them. I feel it is my duty, to always warn someone before they get 'too close' and start blaming me. Let's face it, i'm not going to quit uni., then pack up and leave Finland for something long distance!!!! I always insist, that when i do move ( when i'm done doing what i'm here for), i won't blindly move to any country of the world for love *alone*, how would i support myself if finding a job there would be impossible?? No, i don't want a man to take care of me ( financially), even though i find financial security important in a man. Imagine if i left here and moved to Germany.....i'm not originally from here, and i'm probably not interested in learning another language to survive. I don't have grown up kids, i'm still at the 'want to have a family' phase, so yes, we both have to be living in the same country and working, WHEN i do decide i can enter into a 'serious' relationship.


Meanwhile, i have no problem making friends with men here.

Most of the men who contact me from Finland ( not many, believe me), have either been uninteresting, or not capable of speaking in english...sorry, my finnish sucks and won't rely on gestures for communication. It's a major turn off for me. If i do hear from one that i feel i could connect with, then yes, i will probably consider developing something.....though i'm not into the idea of living here for eternity ( language and weather).......i'm ok with it, for now. I almost met one, he bragged too much and i called it off an hour or so, before we met. I wasn't surprised at his response, he said he was not hurt by the move, because he was extremely rich at my age ( didn't understand why i'm not....hahaha), and would probably get along better, with a rich white woman......see why i want to stand on my own two feet? I think independent women know what i'm saying!



Still, i won't decieve myself in the long distance nonsense....been there, done that.


Any one from around here interested? grin

Forget that, off to take a shower. joy cartwheel
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Oct 25, 2008 7:04 AM CST Frustrations...?
jbibiza
jbibizajbibizaCasinos, Valencia Spain94 Threads 4 Polls 4,914 Posts
Sommerauer71: Well, Tony, you put us straight there...

Why do you not care what profiles say? I am confused by your statement...

You see, for me distance is no object, and nor would be entering a long distance relationship, I would make sure that every damn weekend we had plans, that is is easy for me in Europe... Further afield, then I would be reluctant to consider. Simply because I need to have my guy with me, during the week I am ok, I can be apart because of work, but of course, doing the job that I do, I can move anywhere, after my contract has finished of course... I would not have a problem with a weekend only relationship at all, because once May is here, I am free for the summer, as I have the summer off..

I have worked away alot and I had a weekend only situation, with a partner, but we still lived together and he was away all the time too...

So even if you live together there are going to be times that we will be apart...



I understand what you say about distance and overcoming it... my question is how do you get to that point if you meet online and the distance is already there? I know myself well enough to know... no matter how perfect things may seem in a written relationship, you know nothing until you meet in person and after that it can take months before you know if that person is the one for you.

To get a true perspective of a relationship it means spending time with each other, seeing each others bad habits, and annoying little quirks, it´s easy to be romantic and perfect if you only see each other a couple of times a month.... I know this because it´s how I wound up marrying my ex husband. If we had just spent a month living day to day with each other we never would have married.

So reality tells me that to try to start something with someone halfway around the world is just setting myself up for a disappointment, why spend months months on a slight maybe cutting yourself off from possibilities much closer.
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Oct 25, 2008 9:19 AM CST Frustrations...?
BarrenPneuma
BarrenPneumaBarrenPneumaGolden Staircase, Ontario Canada87 Threads 3 Polls 1,561 Posts
From a personal perspective I have written this in some sort of attempt to alleviate concerns that I have begun to have. As my profile states I am here for nothing more than friends and the forums (which allow me to dump to carnage of an overly active mind free of charge and with the small hope that occasionally some simple sentence that manages to fall out in a lucid form could possibly be coherent and in line with the OP of whichever thread grows unlucky enough to captivate my imagination and curiosity). I have indeed made a few very dear friends and opened the door to many acqauintances who in time may well consider me a friend as well. This is the fulfillment I seek here, and nothing more.
On occasion I do receive mail that begins in such a modest manner, respectful of my clearly stated goals here, and sometimes it comes to a head where the person mailing me believes that I am merely wounded and withholding myself from some grand eloquence that they themselves have to offer. At times like these I am forced to become very blunt and reiterate my stance as nothing more than what I believe. It hurts me to seem so callous in my own defense, as I am in truth much better at defending others than myself. I try to be very cautious in any position where my words can be misunderstood for flirtation and ponder endlessly before I actually post where any thing I may have written could be seen in any way shape or form as any sort of invitation. Fortunately most who have written me in this manner have gracefully left well enough alone but on accoasion there are a few thus far who have become cold or bitter. I realize that I cannot please all of them, nor do I in truth wish to, but I do wish to remain at worst neutral and leave as slight a trail in their lives as possible.
For clarity's sake my heart is spoken for and will remain so until I draw my last breath. I apologize in advance for any possibility that my involvement here can be misconstrued as any sort of relationship seeking.
I know that the heart and mind can do things to our being that we are not very much in control of, and I do not seek to admonish anyone for thinking anything of me in that way. It is just that when I have been prompted to make my position clear I do hate the sour connotation that might arise. I would like to know if anyone has any meas by which they have successfully dissuaded (in the most altruistic manner only please!) someone from attempting to be more than they could ever be.
Again I have met a few wonderful friends here and I do realize that their has to be some sort of connection for this to occur. But in these cases I must point out that they are the ones to whom my utmost respect goes out unfettered as that is exactly what they have shown me. My life would be much darker than it has to be withouth their light to share with me. I am truly blessed by their friendship and wouldn't trade any of the for the world.
I just can't help but feel like a sore thumb at times. I am just a regular guy who tends to post in a long winded sort of way and I truly am sorry if this invokes any sort of curiosity that does not ultimately have friendship as its goal. I cannot offer more and at times it makes me feel more of a hindrance to these lovely women who would do best to be my friend or seek elsewhere for someone who can Love them in the way that they truly deserve.
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Oct 25, 2008 11:17 AM CST Frustrations...?
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Mark if you have stated your intent on your profile...and you kindly remind people of why you're actually here, yet they persist because they want to save you...that's on their shoulders not yours....that has nothing to do with you at all but their willingness to listen to what you're really saying....so no people here who are taken...married whatever present no hindrance whatsoever...I see them as people...the same people they were before they were committed to someone....and like I say...if it's clearly stated on someone's profile that they are taken...and someone misconstrues something...then it's on that persons shoulders and their problem....I have been in a few situations where I have clearly laid it out to certain people that I only want to be friends...which they agree to...yet eventually persisted to try to turn it into something it wasn't...well as far as I am concerned they never wanted to be friends in the first place if they couldn't even listen to and respect what I was saying...so yes more than once someone has got pissed at me for what was their own fault for not listening and I just ended up cutting off communication with them.....for the simple reason...I don't want people or friends in my life who don't listen and hear what I have to say...I don't want people in my life who think they can manipulate me into doing something I clearly don't want to do...I don't want a friend with an agenda....so when I cut off communication with these people...I don't feel as if I have lost anything including friendship...because obviously they never really were friends to begin with...so like I said...the fact that others don't listen and hear what you are actually saying...and persist...has nothing to do with you or your actions..but their inability to hear and respect what you're saying.....hug teddybear hug bouquet


As far as distance...I don't really see it as a hindrance...I am pretty open and sure that if things are meant to be then they will be and two people who love and are committed to each other for the long haul will always find a way that is best for them and their relationship!!!!!


teddybear
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Oct 25, 2008 11:21 AM CST Frustrations...?
Dknew
DknewDknewBarrington, New Hampshire USA262 Threads 10 Polls 7,077 Posts
BarrenPneuma: Do the inherent obstacles of distance keep you separated from the one to whom you know your heart would indelibly be drawn had circumstances of distance not intervened to create seemingly inseparable gulfs?
Are there persons here to whom you would divulge your desires if their profiles were more accepting of contact?
Are there persons on this site who are not seeking to whom you wish you could have the chance to press a case for possibilities of enduring Love?
Do some people cause you to feel less than worthy through no actions of their own other than their presence?

How do you overcome such barriers?
Do you even consider the attempt to overcome these barriers?

I am just curious as to how those of us who are here for the forums and friends only could be negatively impacting the search for Love that is the ultimate purpose of this site.
Personally I see those who are happily engaged in relations, fulfilling enough to allow them to maintain some sembance of presence here, as an educational experience and testament to the grace of Love which most seek. Do others see committed people as a deterent or hindrance much like a single's club filled with married couples?

Just curious, and hopefully not offensive in any way as I value all contributions to these forums from all person's single, looking, married or just taking a break from the rigors of Love's complicated game.



Sometimes you find What you were looking for when not searching for it.
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Oct 25, 2008 11:39 AM CST Frustrations...?
BarrenPneuma: Do the inherent obstacles of distance keep you separated from the one to whom you know your heart would indelibly be drawn had circumstances of distance not intervened to create seemingly inseparable gulfs?
Are there persons here to whom you would divulge your desires if their profiles were more accepting of contact?
Are there persons on this site who are not seeking to whom you wish you could have the chance to press a case for possibilities of enduring Love?
Do some people cause you to feel less than worthy through no actions of their own other than their presence?

How do you overcome such barriers?
Do you even consider the attempt to overcome these barriers?

I am just curious as to how those of us who are here for the forums and friends only could be negatively impacting the search for Love that is the ultimate purpose of this site.
Personally I see those who are happily engaged in relations, fulfilling enough to allow them to maintain some sembance of presence here, as an educational experience and testament to the grace of Love which most seek. Do others see committed people as a deterent or hindrance much like a single's club filled with married couples?

Just curious, and hopefully not offensive in any way as I value all contributions to these forums from all person's single, looking, married or just taking a break from the rigors of Love's complicated game.



Sometimes that special person can be right under our noses when we least expect them to be cause we're not really looking.
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Oct 25, 2008 11:50 AM CST Frustrations...?
Kevint
KevintKevintWorcester, Home of the sauce, West Midlands, England UK6 Threads 433 Posts
gypsykisses: patience is a virtue....however some do not have the patience for the long haul-which makes me wonder

if they even had the patience for the real life long haul.



Wow there, run that by me again LONG HAUL !!!!! whats that about, the expression Long Haul usually

refers to being in a confined space for longer than you really want to be, creating misery and distress.



Is that how you see being in a loving relationship is going to be, what happened to the joy, passion, affection the growing old together in a harmony that was built on friendship and joint knowledge

No wonder there so much .............Oh whats the point frustrated frustrated frustrated

moping doh doh doh
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Oct 25, 2008 11:54 AM CST Frustrations...?
BarrenPneuma
BarrenPneumaBarrenPneumaGolden Staircase, Ontario Canada87 Threads 3 Polls 1,561 Posts
I turned on my television to occupy my mind and attempt to restore my composure. The futility of this soon became apparent with my fidgeting and complete lack of focus. I soon found myself settling back into my computer chair and looking for the first time at someone else’s profile besides my own. I drank in every word, my mind rationalizing that no matter how long I looked at your profile, there was no way you could ever know, and that hours or minutes it would be the same. Further justification to remain on your profile was the obvious- my profile being tagged on your Who’s Viewed Me list would most assuredly be drowned by the multitudes of other men drawn to your perfection of form. Every time my mind decided that I was crossing the lines of decency, my heart drove these worries away. I cycled through your picture seemingly a hundred times, stunned by your innate beauty, passion and visible soul. I could not believe what I was looking at. Never in my life had a picture of anything sang out so loud and clear to me. I could literally hear you clear as day. Reading your profile and looking at each picture in turn captivated me and impressed too deeply to refuse an instant and ever growing desire to know more and more. I added you then as my first (and what turned out to be my only) favourite. I went to bed and dreamed solely of you. I went to work and thought about you with every spare moment I had. When I came home I faced one of the most difficult tasks of my life. I knew I had to reach out to you, and having never done so with anyone in my life, I was at a complete loss as just how to do this. I sat at my computer for hours before I wrote what later became one of my proudest moments. A simple (rather unheard of from me) and straightforward letter of introduction. I went to bed emotionally drained from this tiny little missive, hoping that sleep would wrap her arms about me and draw me into restful peace or at least keep me from opening your profile again. I had decided that I could not look at your profile again without making myself known and having some form of acceptance from you. I felt I owed you at least that for my hours long intrusion of the night before. Sleep was refused to me and my repose was unnaturally fitful. I have grown rather accustomed to broken sleep for most of my life, so for me to recognize this sleep as anything but the norm it truly was disturbed. I went to work and anticipated with every breath coming home to check my mail. I came through the door after work and raced to my computer, not even taking my coat or shoes off, loaded my home page, entered my name and password to see the most desired red light encapsulating the mailbox tab. I took off my coat and shoes, poured myself a glass of water and settled in to see who could possibly have mailed me. Wishing desperately that some letter from you was in there but believing more realistically that it was merely some new eastern world marriage proposal, I hesitantly opened my mailbox. My heart leapt into my throat and my breathing became extremely irregular when I saw your angelic picture beside the only mail in my inbox. I rationalized quickly that you were just being polite and nothing more. Tentatively I opened the mail to find my wildest dreams come true. Sure I didn’t know what a Skype was, but your were there and if not open armed, surely not closed arms either. Instantly any and all thoughts of leaving CS vanished.
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Oct 25, 2008 11:55 AM CST Frustrations...?
BarrenPneuma
BarrenPneumaBarrenPneumaGolden Staircase, Ontario Canada87 Threads 3 Polls 1,561 Posts
Each black and white word from you reached into my heart and dashed themselves off the carefully constructed walls I had installed for protection. Eroding my defences like waves crashing upon the shore. Worse even than this was the simple fact that each word, after tearing at the stone shielding my heart, slid up and over the walls to imbed itself deep inside me. Each word or letter that struck my heart created resonating harmonies like a triangle and iron, pick and string, or drum and stick. Once I finally relented in my foolishness with Skype, I saw you again as if for the first time, and then the absolute pure magic of your angelic voice. Millions of questions hammered into my brain, even though we had already spoken on the telephone a few times before.

And that was how I lost my soul in a way that for the first time in my humble life allowed me to know that in truth I had finally found it.
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Oct 25, 2008 11:55 AM CST Frustrations...?
LACali
LACaliLACaliSouthern California, California USA3 Threads 936 Posts
jbibiza: While I can be intellectual and wax poetic... at the core of me is a very physical being... I purr under the right caress and arch my back for more... so yes, distance is a huge obstacle for me. There are a couple of men who I find intriguing and would love the opportunity to meet but the reality is that while I enjoy the passionate words and mental intrigue... without the physical act of touching and being held... it soon loses the magic it may have started with.

If someone has a barrier it is for them to lower, not for me.... and I love the input that people in a happy relationship give to this site... it gives us all a bit of hope.


thumbs up
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Oct 25, 2008 12:23 PM CST Frustrations...?
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
lusciousmile: Are you two talking to the same person (Sommer)? If so, one of you is in trouble and is going to be here a long time.



Luscious...

rolling on the floor laughing


They are, talking to me, and one of them got my name mixed up...

Tsk, tsk...
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Oct 25, 2008 12:25 PM CST Frustrations...?
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
Sommerauer71: Luscious...

They are, talking to me, and one of them got my name mixed up...

Tsk, tsk...



I knew it!idea


I just want to know who got it wrong, but i can still guess who.


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing


wave
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Oct 25, 2008 12:26 PM CST Frustrations...?
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
Barren;;;

She knows...

hug
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Oct 25, 2008 12:28 PM CST Frustrations...?
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
lusciousmile: I knew it!I just want to know who got it wrong, but i can still guess who.




I know it too...

You are just too quick for them Luscious...

rolling on the floor laughing
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