laura225: Ah, Hugzy, being your usual self BLACK & WHITE! Didn't you read ppl's posts?
Some 5'somethin" 3rd parties stalk their 6'somethin" 'victims' untill those can't take it no more
some finally do give in, others are taken by force
No actually I didn't read others post because to me it is black and white....and well...those taken by force might be an exception to my black and white rule...especially if they were subject to torture and mind altering drugs....I guess there is an exception to every rule...I just forget to look for them sometimes in my close minded black and white way of thinking...
Thank you g/f for bringing me back to reality.....
Hugz_n_Kissez: No actually I didn't read others post because to me it is black and white....and well...those taken by force might be an exception to my black and white rule...especially if they were subject to torture and mind altering drugs....I guess there is an exception to every rule...I just forget to look for them sometimes in my close minded black and white way of thinking... Thank you g/f for bringing me back to reality.....
I blame the cheating part but it's doesn't make me the biggest fan of the person they cheated with.
If you know that someone is in a relationship you also know that being with that person will hurt someone really bad. How anyone can decide that's a super cool thing to be part of I simply can't understand. Maybe their level of empathy just doesn't reach that far, what do I know.
All I know is that a person who gives a crap if their actions or participation in them hurt others is not a person I feel strongly about socializing with on a deeper level than “Hello”.
(This said people make mistakes all the time, we're only human and that's okay. But the people who don't have any regrets about hurting others as long as it benefits themselves are not people I have very high regards about)
constanza: I would not blame the third party either; your spouse is making the choice to betray.....the third party is simply someone who has no morals or integrity..but in reality they owe you nothing.
i would blame both as it has happeed to mme fistly my husband knew he was marrid and secondly the third party knew he was married as far as i'm concerned neither had no morals being separated i.ve had married men come on to me and it's just a no-no i tell el to sort out their marriage as an adul i can handle the cheating and separtion speaking for my daughter she finds it diffcult so come in all fairness if som-one cheated on his wife with you three's nothing there to stop him chating on you as you have already given the go ahead that cheating is exceptible so girls stick together give anyone the rope they'll hang themselves
I'd say something wasn't going right in the marriage, relationship, in the first place. More then likely the blame is there, but, damn does it feel good face to face with the third party with a, "but, but ,but" coming out of his mouth, has you tell him, "she's all yours. See ya!"
As far as i know this is still a free country we all live in....still a country where some choices is still entirely our own to make...
I am bombarded by telemarketers....sales clerks...car salesmen....all the time...I DO NOT buy what they are offering unless I WANT it!....note: If you as a man is being pursued relentlessly by a woman even though she knows you are married....let your wife know...i guarantee she'll take care of it!
Not so, when I was married, her best friend was one that flirted the most, made it clear that she wanted tp play around. made me mad as hell, I told my then wife and she wouldn't believe me... go figure
you seem to be stretching the meaning to get a different story here... I did not say that the cheater isn't guilty, I am saying that in most cases the third party is just as guilty, many even moreso because they intentionally target married people.
rasgumby: Not so, when I was married, her best friend was one that flirted the most, made it clear that she wanted tp play around. made me mad as hell, I told my then wife and she wouldn't believe me... go figure you seem to be stretching the meaning to get a different story here... I did not say that the cheater isn't guilty, I am saying that in most cases the third party is just as guilty, many even moreso because they intentionally target married people.
And i am saying that it should not matter how aggressive the third party is, or how immoral, or how "driven"....the person they have "targeted" still has a choice!
I apologize if you think i'm "stretching the meaning"...i don't believe i am...merely responding to what i'm reading....
It appears that you would like the third party to share the blame of the "cheater" (and no matter what caused him/her to do it...they are still cheaters...), I think that the married person who has - for whatever excuse they would like to present - stepped outside of their marital bounds is entirely the one to shoulder the blame...
I believe someone else said it...."If you want out...get out"...but don't lay the blame at someone else feet that they "made" you do it...
wikked: Why do you say "separated is still married" ship? If a man and woman have gone their separate ways and have been so for years...do you really believe a piece of paper still validates a marriage that is long dead?
wikked: Why do you say "separated is still married" ship? If a man and woman have gone their separate ways and have been so for years...do you really believe a piece of paper still validates a marriage that is long dead?
yes, I do.
This is why i don't believe in marriage! marriage is a legal contract. if a person will break that contract without the benefit of a contract that overrides the first one(a divorce). what makes you think this person will commit to a non-binding (verbal) contract?
Will this person honor credit contracts? will this person honor committment?
As a carpenter...I had a code of conduct...never start one project till you finish the one you have already started.
A marriage isn't over...till the divorce is final!
shipoker58: yes, I do.This is why i don't believe in marriage! marriage is a legal contract. if a person will break that contract without the benefit of a contract that overrides the first one(a divorce). what makes you think this person will commit to a non-binding (verbal) contract?
Will this person honor credit contracts? will this person honor committment?
As a carpenter...I had a code of conduct...never start one project till you finish the one you have already started.
A marriage isn't over...till the divorce is final!
If the person thought it was an option to even break a binding (legal contractual marriage), what makes you think that they will hold true to another marriage...legal or verbal?
Not that I disagree with you Ship...but "codes of conduct" are a personal thing...they are the standards by which each individual lives by...holds themselves accountable for and by...
I guess I'm not convinced that a piece of paper will make someone good bad or better...
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Precisely !