You Care So Much For Him, But He Asks for Money (62)
SwissCookie: It is a huge amount for him, a lesser amount for me, If he stops worrying, I stop worrying, and we can go on with life. Right now we are stymied. Help.
Old people get ill and they die.
It's the natural order and it's going to happen anyway, whether you pour your savings into it or not.
To be honest, if the guy really loves you he shouldn't even ask you for the money or even play upon your sympathy.
I have personal experience and insight into this subject that I can't discuss here.
I can only say that I know real love would not burden you with any feelings of guilt or responsability in such a case.
From what you have said, I think you are being scammed, even if his father is really ill.
SwissCookie: ok, checked the link out, it means marriageschwindler. and yes, he told me he loved me last night. damn, i used to be a rational business person, what does intimacy do to us, how did it change me..
Emotions distort our rational ability.
Thank God for friends to help us think clearly.
Dump the bum.
Conrad73: There is a word in the German Language for this behaviour:Heirats-Schwindler!
don't even go so far,as to propose Marriage.
Confidence-Tricksters.
don't even go so far,as to propose Marriage.
Confidence-Tricksters.
oder Hochstapler
SwissCookie: sending money home to his family afar.
Uh, oh.
Say no more. Not unless you have met and know this 'far away ' family well. And even then, it doesn't seem you have known each other long. It is his family. His problem.
Somehow, I think you have probably sized up the situation already and know what to do.
SwissCookie: Good idea to pay the hospital direct, it is in another country, of course.
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dying to know if that's let's say, East of where you are now?! E.g. Ukraine, Russia, E. Europe?
To the Swiss cookie....don't go crackers...or cookie...this is a serious matter....
...you have a choice...let compassion rule the day, or be cautious...
...sorry, I am the last one to ask...seen it all, heard it all....classic scam, get a local chick, shack up with her, give her a sad tale, and then start siphoning the money back home...I've heard of worse ones...
...but maybe he's for real??...I'd ask for proof...
...go take a weekend out for yourself...fly down to the Balkans/Thailand/Turkey and go visit his ailing old man before you cough up...
...that's my 5 cents worth..
...you have a choice...let compassion rule the day, or be cautious...
...sorry, I am the last one to ask...seen it all, heard it all....classic scam, get a local chick, shack up with her, give her a sad tale, and then start siphoning the money back home...I've heard of worse ones...
...but maybe he's for real??...I'd ask for proof...
...go take a weekend out for yourself...fly down to the Balkans/Thailand/Turkey and go visit his ailing old man before you cough up...
...that's my 5 cents worth..
gussi: oder Hochstapler
oder Gauner.
My guess is that you are going to be emotionally hurt SwissCookie. Think with your head and not with your heart.
I believe the following old saying:
"The quickest way to lose a friend is to lend him money...."
....same goes for lovers, probably...
"The quickest way to lose a friend is to lend him money...."
....same goes for lovers, probably...
In response to: You are generous with love and emotion and gifts, and he has a father who needs a heart operation requiring many thousands. Do you give all possibly save a life, or, do you feel like a potential fool? Help, your opinions are respected. Thanks.
Lagoona22: To the Swiss cookie....don't go crackers...or cookie...this is a serious matter....
...you have a choice...let compassion rule the day, or be cautious...
...sorry, I am the last one to ask...seen it all, heard it all....classic scam, get a local chick, shack up with her, give her a sad tale, and then start siphoning the money back home...I've heard of worse ones...
...but maybe he's for real??...I'd ask for proof...
...go take a weekend out for yourself...fly down to the Balkans/Thailand/Turkey and go visit his ailing old man before you cough up...
...that's my 5 cents worth..
...you have a choice...let compassion rule the day, or be cautious...
...sorry, I am the last one to ask...seen it all, heard it all....classic scam, get a local chick, shack up with her, give her a sad tale, and then start siphoning the money back home...I've heard of worse ones...
...but maybe he's for real??...I'd ask for proof...
...go take a weekend out for yourself...fly down to the Balkans/Thailand/Turkey and go visit his ailing old man before you cough up...
...that's my 5 cents worth..
Could be Iraq?...or Iran? ...... Always there begins a SAD story in the love affair!
These guys are just so classic - they`re beginning to form a definite pattern.
I have also seen these characters come and go in my friends lives here ...... they begin by being SO wonderful, but the bottom line is they are either looking for Swiss Passport (freedom of movement), or money (to send back home) from these "wealthy" women in Switzerland.
I once "got to know" a "swiss" guy, "living in Switzerland" according to his profile .... and then one day I got a frantic email that he was in HUGE trouble in another country where he`d gone to have an "Art exhibition" (fellow artist, ya know? - to match MY profile!).... and in Dire need of a lot of money ........ The country he was in trouble in? ..... NIGERIA! (of course)
Gee.. was he relieved when I asked how much would he be needing? Sfr20,000, or would Sfr200,000...? ha ha ha!
Good idea to pay the hospital direct, it is in another country, of course.
All the comments here are making me see this in a new light..here. is my pennys worth and you may hurt a little ... just walk away if you cant do that ask for his fathers medical records the hospital he is being treated at then ask a local heart doc where you live his opinion but this i think is a scam so walk away and ignore all contact .
All the comments here are making me see this in a new light..here. is my pennys worth and you may hurt a little ... just walk away if you cant do that ask for his fathers medical records the hospital he is being treated at then ask a local heart doc where you live his opinion but this i think is a scam so walk away and ignore all contact .
SwissCookie: You are generous with love and emotion and gifts, and he has a father who needs a heart operation requiring many thousands. Do you give all possibly save a life, or, do you feel like a potential fool? Help, your opinions are respected. Thanks.
scary, scary.....
so many new scams going round....
honest i m liveing now in egypt and i would love to help your boyfriend if he is honest !!! and close to where i m now !!why not to help and if you are togather why not to know his family and to be intouch with them , white energy
SwissCookie: You are generous with love and emotion and gifts, and he has a father who needs a heart operation requiring many thousands. Do you give all possibly save a life, or, do you feel like a potential fool? Help, your opinions are respected. Thanks.
The best advice you have been given is to pay the hospital direct, if you want to go the help route.
If he objects, then you know that it is a scam.
Of course the worst part of the story is that you are going to get hurt, because he has played with your sentiments.
I hope that this will not be the case!!
I wonder what the outcome was?
Are you around SwissCookie?
Are you around SwissCookie?
SwissCookie: You are generous with love and emotion and gifts, and he has a father who needs a heart operation requiring many thousands. Do you give all possibly save a life, or, do you feel like a potential fool? Help, your opinions are respected. Thanks.
HONEST REPLY? I am the fool that would give it to him...and have done on several occassions in the past. Was it the right thing to do...at hindsight...NO....
Lagoona22: I believe the following old saying:
"The quickest way to lose a friend is to lend him money...."
....same goes for lovers, probably...
"The quickest way to lose a friend is to lend him money...."
....same goes for lovers, probably...
FOR ONCE I AM IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH LAGO
I speak from experience.... I have lost count of the amount of people who owe me money, ranging from 50 euros to 20.000 euros....ah well...too late to cry about it now...
WHAT!!??...you lent 20'000 grand to someone, and didn't get any back??...you're a nice friend to have Butterfly...Well, on the one hand I have to applaud your sense of support and charity....on the other hand, may I assume the original friendship with that person is over??...Probably....You see, debt means obligation....and no-one likes obligation..
...Take a look at lending books to people....I have lent so many books, and lost so many books as well. Today, when someone asks me to lend them a book, I say "Give me 20 euros, the price of the book, and you will receive it back when i get my book back"...and usually, they are offended by this....Is that fair??...I bloody well think so...
...Take a look at lending books to people....I have lent so many books, and lost so many books as well. Today, when someone asks me to lend them a book, I say "Give me 20 euros, the price of the book, and you will receive it back when i get my book back"...and usually, they are offended by this....Is that fair??...I bloody well think so...
butterfly27459: FOR ONCE I AM IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH LAGO
I speak from experience.... I have lost count of the amount of people who owe me money, ranging from 50 euros to 20.000 euros....ah well...too late to cry about it now...
I speak from experience.... I have lost count of the amount of people who owe me money, ranging from 50 euros to 20.000 euros....ah well...too late to cry about it now...
..You see, debt means obligation....and no-one likes obligation..
...Take a look at lending books to people....I have lent so many books, and lost so many books as well. Today, when someone asks me to lend them a book, I say "Give me 20 euros, the price of the book, and you will receive it back when i get my book back"...and usually, they are offended by this....Is that fair??...I bloody well think so...[/quote]
Exactly! I have also lost many valuable (to me) books this way!
Now I just say "Sorry, I dont lend my books out - you can sit here and read it" ... then somehow the book loses its importance.
...Take a look at lending books to people....I have lent so many books, and lost so many books as well. Today, when someone asks me to lend them a book, I say "Give me 20 euros, the price of the book, and you will receive it back when i get my book back"...and usually, they are offended by this....Is that fair??...I bloody well think so...[/quote]
Exactly! I have also lost many valuable (to me) books this way!
Now I just say "Sorry, I dont lend my books out - you can sit here and read it" ... then somehow the book loses its importance.
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All the comments here are making me see this in a new light.
sooo...you're gonna fall for this clasic "scammer" then? First got ya "hooked" and well the rest will be history...suggest to him that you both fly over and go and meet this "father" of him...and watch his reaction...