Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games! (779)

Jul 24, 2011 3:10 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
raphael118: go look at the graph- dont tell conrad he wont be able to stand the truth.



Can you?laugh
Jul 24, 2011 3:12 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
newinsouth
newinsouthnewinsouthAiken, South Carolina USA26 Threads 2 Polls 1,039 Posts
Sparky55: Let's see.

91% against President Obama raising the debt ceiling and 9% for.

Hmmmmm, I think Dude is doing more to expose President Obama in a negative light than any Republican ever could. Keep on posting Dude and it'll be alright. When President Obama is unemployeed, there will be plenty of programs and funding available until he finds another job.

Are you sure you're not really a GOP plant...


Every other president has raised the debt ceiling, some more than once!!!
Jul 24, 2011 3:16 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
mr1983: Lets be honest here!! The debt crises started with Reagen and the supply side economics!! The idea where less tax on the rich means more investment and jobs. Absolute nonsense!!
actually Jimmy Carter phlocked it up!
Obama One!rolling on the floor laughing
Jul 24, 2011 3:17 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
newinsouth: Every other president has raised the debt ceiling, some more than once!!!


Let's see if we can find the u-tube video of Obama voting against raising the debt ceiling when he was in the Senate. professor
Jul 24, 2011 3:17 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
raphael118: IT amuses me to see how many economic visionaries and prophets, qualified and grossly unqualified, seem to come out of nowhere. Usually some true savior is found to promote a personal political agenda and any non believer is a demonic heretic. Remember Ronald Reagan and laffanomics, Reagonomics was the answer to all our problems. I wonder if anyone even uses that term anymore. Hutts is a new messiah. If you want to make money in your life, a degree in economics is a great road to failure.
You mean the way Peanut Jimmy,Obama One frigged it all up?rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Jul 24, 2011 3:19 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
mr1983: Lets be honest here!! The debt crises started with Reagen and the supply side economics!! The idea where less tax on the rich means more investment and jobs. Absolute nonsense!!


You need to take a longer view on problem. What FDR and DEM set up post the depression was a workable low cost solution to retirement costs of the country. Then the DEM grabbed on and made it their personal piggie bank. By taking funds from Social Security thru the General Fund.

Reagon (no 41) did not have any part of that. That was Jimmy Carter (no.40) that move Social from a 'trust account' to the General Fund.

How much did they siffen off? That 63t in total liabilities for Social Security and Medicare ought to tell you something.

Once they found they had a cash cow....they simply milked it.
Passing laws to force contribution to the FICA account. Taxing the retired for any FICA payment made.

You are trying to blame Reagonics, while it is Reagonics in Washington that is the sole common ground that they share in the Debt talks. They both see it differently. But its give them a workable model of how to structure the government's liabilities and revenues.
Jul 24, 2011 3:25 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
raphael118
raphael118raphael118arlington, Virginia USA8 Threads 2 Polls 1,074 Posts
Conrad73: is that why you're so bitter?
Because your Ideas weren't considered?

It's been done your Statist way now for Generations,and all you have achieved is to bankrupt everything!
Have the Decency to get the Hell out of the way!


my ideas?wtf!?laugh

The twenties and Herbert Hoover were a glorious venture into laissez-faire, a lot of the corruption in finance then closely resembled what we saw in 2008.

bye
super
Jul 24, 2011 3:26 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
I give up!! Its like pissing against the wind. "Its all Obamas fault so!! Everything was grand when he was elected and now its all f-cked up!"
Jul 24, 2011 3:28 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
raphael118
raphael118raphael118arlington, Virginia USA8 Threads 2 Polls 1,074 Posts
Conrad73: You mean the way Peanut Jimmy,Obama One frigged it all up?



sorry connie, carter came before reagan- cant you remember?
Jul 24, 2011 3:29 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
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The Shadow Knows!rolling on the floor laughing
Jul 24, 2011 3:30 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
Actractorguy
ActractorguyActractorguyTims Ford Lake, Tennessee USA26 Threads 7 Polls 2,089 Posts
mr1983: I give up!! Its like pissing against the wind. "Its all Obamas fault so!! Everything was grand when he was elected and now its all f-cked up!"


Gee When does a Captain assume responsibility for the ship. At the time he takes command or the day after he leaves?

Same goes for THE CIC. He's at the helm and if it's sinking; why continually pass the buck to the previous Captain?


cheers grin
Jul 24, 2011 3:34 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
mr1983: Lets be honest here!! The debt crises started with Reagen and the supply side economics!! The idea where less tax on the rich means more investment and jobs. Absolute nonsense!!


Well, if we want to go back 30 years, why not go back 50 years?

Kennedy reduced the tax rate on the wealth from 90%. Then Johnson started the "great society", which doomed the poor to more poverty.

comfort

Fairly clear you don't grasp capitalism. professor
Jul 24, 2011 3:36 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
Actractorguy: Gee When does a Captain assume responsibility for the ship. At the time he takes command or the day after he leaves?

Same goes for THE CIC. He's at the helm and if it's sinking; why continually pass the buck to the previous Captain?
laugh well,it might work a while!

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Jul 24, 2011 3:55 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
mr1983: Kennedy's New Frontier was bad for the poor!! Is that what you are saying??


What I'm saying is that the tax rate on the rich in the 60's was 90%. Kennedy wanted to spur investment. Hence, he cut tax rates. (Not disimiliar from what Bush did) So if Bush's tax cuts were a problem, I would suggest that Kennedy's were too. Kennedy cut rates substantially more than Bush.
Jul 24, 2011 3:55 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
Actractorguy: Gee When does a Captain assume responsibility for the ship. At the time he takes command or the day after he leaves?

Same goes for THE CIC. He's at the helm and if it's sinking; why continually pass the buck to the previous Captain?


If the Captain is trying to steer the ship in the right direction but some narrow-minded individuals seem content with steering the ship into an ice-berg dis-regarding the consequences, what does he do?
Jul 24, 2011 3:57 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
Actractorguy
ActractorguyActractorguyTims Ford Lake, Tennessee USA26 Threads 7 Polls 2,089 Posts
mr1983: If the Captain is trying to steer the ship in the right direction but some narrow-minded individuals seem content with steering the ship into an ice-berg dis-regarding the consequences, what does he do?


Ah one of those answer a Q with a Q.

I'll await your response to my questions before answering your Question.

cheers
Jul 24, 2011 3:57 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
fourfivesix
fourfivesixfourfivesixYork Region, Ontario Canada1 Threads 5 Posts
the truth is : it is not really about Barack Obama:

1. the iluminati controlled media pulls the strings of either the dem's or rep's so you choose either way you loose.
2. learn more about the Iraqi Dinar that may shed some lite on to how the U.S. and it current situation may be resolved with out the O pupet telling you that Mike Gietner has 14 trillion Iraqi Dinar sitting in the US Treasury as it is soon to be ReValued will more than pay off U.S Debt (but) the dark cabal dont want you to know about so will keep the Dinar for them selves and that in truth is what they are fighting about in Private .....
if you remember George Bush said the War in Iraq would pay for it self several times over.
Google US Treasury sitting on Iraqi Dinar.

Dont worry about the chaos in the public media that will keep you broke.

Hope you will change your topic now to ......????? We'll lets see what you do.... best.. fourfivesix
Jul 24, 2011 4:01 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
Actractorguy
ActractorguyActractorguyTims Ford Lake, Tennessee USA26 Threads 7 Polls 2,089 Posts
fourfivesix: the truth is : it is not really about Barack Obama:

1. the iluminati controlled media pulls the strings of either the dem's or rep's so you choose either way you loose.
2. learn more about the Iraqi Dinar that may shed some lite on to how the U.S. and it current situation may be resolved with out the O pupet telling you that Mike Gietner has 14 trillion Iraqi Dinar sitting in the US Treasury as it is soon to be ReValued will more than pay off U.S Debt (but) the dark cabal dont want you to know about so will keep the Dinar for them selves and that in truth is what they are fighting about in Private .....
if you remember George Bush said the War in Iraq would pay for it self several times over.
Google US Treasury sitting on Iraqi Dinar.

Dont worry about the chaos in the public media that will keep you broke.

Hope you will change your topic now to ......????? We'll lets see what you do.... best.. fourfivesix



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Jul 24, 2011 4:05 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Ever try a Godfather Pizza? I have
do not like Mafia Pizza... in Italy where Pizza is form they never use a stupid name like "God father" for a dang Pizza because Mafia is not a good thing commercialising a bout and making some thing facy by naming a food by... Only a Cain and others like him can name a Pizza for "god father" Pizza... I am going to research how Cain chain taking care of his employeese becaue right winger employers because of their hatered against Unions can never create good working environment for the employeese and folks working there because there are no many other aleternatives. .
Jul 24, 2011 4:06 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: do not like Mafia Pizza... in Italy where Pizza is form they never use a stupid name like "God father" for a dang Pizza because Mafia is not a good thing commercialising a bout and making some thing facy by naming a food by... Only a Cain and others like him can name a Pizza for "god father" Pizza... I am going to research how Cain chain taking care of his employeese becaue right winger employers because of their hatered against Unions can never create good working environment for the employeese and folks working there because there are no many other aleternatives. .


I'd say you're scraping the bottom of the barrel. That makes no sense. rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Jul 24, 2011 4:07 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: do not like Mafia Pizza... in Italy where Pizza is form they never use a stupid name like "God father" for a dang Pizza because Mafia is not a good thing commercialising a bout and making some thing facy by naming a food by... Only a Cain and others like him can name a Pizza for "god father" Pizza... I am going to research how Cain chain taking care of his employeese becaue right winger employers because of their hatered against Unions can never create good working environment for the employeese and folks working there because there are no many other aleternatives. .



Since most Mafia are involved in (democrat) unions, maybe you can share your brainal knowledge with us on how that transpired. professor














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Jul 24, 2011 4:08 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
fourfivesix: the truth is : it is not really about Barack Obama:

1. the iluminati controlled media pulls the strings of either the dem's or rep's so you choose either way you loose.
2. learn more about the Iraqi Dinar that may shed some lite on to how the U.S. and it current situation may be resolved with out the O pupet telling you that Mike Gietner has 14 trillion Iraqi Dinar sitting in the US Treasury as it is soon to be ReValued will more than pay off U.S Debt (but) the dark cabal dont want you to know about so will keep the Dinar for them selves and that in truth is what they are fighting about in Private .....
if you remember George Bush said the War in Iraq would pay for it self several times over.
Google US Treasury sitting on Iraqi Dinar.

Dont worry about the chaos in the public media that will keep you broke.

Hope you will change your topic now to ......????? We'll lets see what you do.... best.. fourfivesix
I got some Italian Lira from the Sixties!rolling on the floor laughing
Some Yugoslavian Dinars might be about too!rolling on the floor laughing
Jul 24, 2011 4:09 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Proofs on it,s way as soon as Cain even coming close to a real candidate but... He won,t ... Cain will get out of this race exactly as Trump for now


Why, because he's not the traditional "plantation" democrat?
Jul 24, 2011 4:10 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
raphael118: sorry connie, carter came before reagan- cant you remember?
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing no wonder Reagan had to do so much fixing up of the Economy!rolling on the floor laughing dancing
Jul 24, 2011 4:10 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
SCatlyn: What's the deal here? Why do you continually post this?

BTW - No matter what name you choose to call Freddy, it makes no difference. It's the brains, not the names, that count.


Nothing to do with the name of the profile or some thing like that SCatlyn... I know what Raphael means and so does Freddy. use ur imagination and you will laugh of this fabulous description of Freddy as well laugh
Jul 24, 2011 4:13 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
Hot_Single_Dude: do not like Mafia Pizza... in Italy where Pizza is form they never use a stupid name like "God father" for a dang Pizza because Mafia is not a good thing commercialising a bout and making some thing facy by naming a food by... Only a Cain and others like him can name a Pizza for "god father" Pizza... I am going to research how Cain chain taking care of his employeese becaue right winger employers because of their hatered against Unions can never create good working environment for the employeese and folks working there because there are no many other aleternatives. .
playing the same garbage like you did in '08?rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Jul 24, 2011 4:16 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
mr1983: Interesting graph!! Any comments!!
Of course no comments... Republicans beleive graphs as this one os made by communistmuslimhippyunemploymnetbenfitreceivernonpatriot folks or some thing like that laugh
Jul 24, 2011 4:17 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
Conrad73: playing the same garbage like you did in '08?
That's your whole purpose here,isn't it?
To demonize as much as you can any possible Rival to Obama,and demonize 50+% of the American people!thumbs down

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Jul 24, 2011 4:17 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
Actractorguy: Ah one of those answer a Q with a Q.

I'll await your response to my questions before answering your Question.


The answer is a whole lot more complex than a simple one way or the other!!
Jul 24, 2011 4:21 PM CST Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games!
Conrad73: That's your whole purpose here,isn't it?
To demonize as much as you can any possible Rival to Obama,and demonize 50+% of the American people!
But at least the Stimulus worked!
Sort of!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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