Debt ceiling! Obama wants a fair deal and Republicans playing games! (779)

jvaski: The elite ones will purposely stall the debt ceiling resolve until the last hour - so that they can buy stocks in a panic market to sell the next day ..........it is all about the elite movers and shakers making money......end of story

Hot_Single_Dude: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/al-gore/responsible-journalism_b_904699.html

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Hot_Single_Dude: Of course Freddy. People vote and people,svote brings politicians on charge and that is why Dems got to work evne more serious revealing results of Republican kind of politics in America. Beside it is more than important to make America understand that if some voters are tired of politicians and so on and not willing to participate much , then the answer is not supporting Republicans instead.

Republican party is talking much a bout being the party of freedom and the party of mavericks and against big government and such and mean while... the truth is Republicans got big governments as well, using what ever pork they can, using what ever govermental subcidies and stimulation packages they can, dobbling and trippling the national debt, rising taxes when necessary for the country but most on the middle calls and on the poor opposite dems... but! Denying all that and lying big time a bout the same!

People bring politicians on charge for sure Freddy... it is time for people know more a bout what differences are between the two major parties and what exactly happens when representatives of special group organisations and by that I mean GOP folks are on charge.

jvaski: Let's see........Work in a Socialist Country .....or Work for free for Corporations and the Rich for free ....Hmmm

jlw45: http://youtu.be/gS9o1FAszdk

Hot_Single_Dude: It is a good question and I do not have the definate answer but still... debt have been raised before more than 90 times in US history and when ever the danger of going defualt existed and for the sake of the country. Maybe a whole new system and so on regarding these measures is needed but what we got now and here and now needs raise of debt in order to keep the country back to gether and in order to enable America paying servicemen and eldery and poor and unemployed and health and so on... if we were talking a bout a single family business or some thing then sure... but we are talking a bout a huge country and hundreds of millions of human beings

mr1983: Do Americans voters really know the consequences that a default will bring? Can republicans not see that the problems that created the last recession and the near total collapse of the financial markets are intertwined with many of the policies that they are still advocating? Why do people in America earning over $50,000 a year feel that they are part of the elite and have to be protected from tax hikes and tax breaks which will in reality never and have never benefited them? Why is the once "mighty" 89% less powerful now than it was in 1970? Why in 1970 when Americans were paying between 9% and 89% tax, was one income in a family sufficient, where household debt was minimal, where student loans were minimal, where everyone had enough to live in dignity? Why has corporate capitalism been allowed to destroy peoples living standards? These are questions the American people have to face up to instead of cheer-leading a party which threatens default and uses it as a weapon. Believe me default and the attitude of "F-CK the debts, we are America" just won't cut it. Americans really need to wake up. The debt ceiling must be raised in conjunction with less spending and higher taxes, even if only temporary.

JackOfTrades: hey, dude, and others. all you folks out there put down the kool-aid. watch and learn.



dont worry. its like an awesome tv show with pop-culture references all over, AND its EDUCATIONAL!

katt1017: Dang!!!

The usual suspect hasn't killed Dude's latest thread yet?

Has he reformed or is he just lacking ambition?

jvaski: The graph clearly shows we should bring back Clinton !

mr1983: Do Americans voters really know the consequences that a default will bring? Can republicans not see that the problems that created the last recession and the near total collapse of the financial markets are intertwined with many of the policies that they are still advocating? Why do people in America earning over $50,000 a year feel that they are part of the elite and have to be protected from tax hikes and tax breaks which will in reality never and have never benefited them? Why is the once "mighty" 89% less powerful now than it was in 1970? Why in 1970 when Americans were paying between 9% and 89% tax, was one income in a family sufficient, where household debt was minimal, where student loans were minimal, where everyone had enough to live in dignity? Why has corporate capitalism been allowed to destroy peoples living standards? These are questions the American people have to face up to instead of cheer-leading a party which threatens default and uses it as a weapon. Believe me default and the attitude of "F-CK the debts, we are America" just won't cut it. Americans really need to wake up. The debt ceiling must be raised in conjunction with less spending and higher taxes, even if only temporary.

jvaski: The elite ones will purposely stall the debt ceiling resolve until the last hour - so that they can buy stocks in a panic market to sell the next day ..........it is all about the elite movers and shakers making money......end of story

Hot_Single_Dude: Great post mr1983 and fabulous and very fair questions in deed. Welcome to this thread

mr1983: Unfortunately we had that same thing in Ireland for years. We thought that we were been looked after by the exact people who conspired to nearly destroy us with some crazy policies. It all comes down to people informing themselves and communities empowering themselves to tell the political establishments that it is us who are in control. It is probably easier to achieve that in a country as small as ours compared to a country the size of the United States. But it can be done.
I was watching something interesting the other night. Ronald Reagen was making a speech and to his right was the CEO of Merrill Lynch. While he paused for second admit applause the CEO came up to him and told him to hurry up and to wrap it up in a gruff commanding way. I was shocked. The American peoples commander-in-chief been told what to do by some unknown corporate boss? Since when was this acceptable in America?

jvaski: Well....at least in a "Socialist" country - Ttom's granpa could get free medical through the government .....

Albertaghost: Which ones were in your opinion so viable for success?

Bet you can't state any of them.

On the other hand, why is your country so right wing?