Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons? (149)
venusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 PostsYabut anything can be a weapon especially for a chick...I have a purse-full...Perfume, keys, high heels, worse case scenario I would beat you to death with my school bag...God knows its heavy enough 
Rubicon76: Most of the drivers for individuals owning weaponry are social. for example; here in Qatar the crime rates are incredibly low mostly due to socio-religious reasons. Crime is simply not tolerated under Islam and that has a huge influence.
Previously I lived in Thailand for 6 years where crime rates are also very low and the city feels very safe. I was quite compfortable allowing my young daughters to go out walking at night by themselves in Krungthep. There it is Buddhism which is responsible for instilling a very peace-loving nature among the people.
Each nation needs to address its own social systemic failures if it is genuinely concerned about its crime rates and values the safety of its citizenry.
As per Conrad's earlier blog, some places in the US appear terrorised by fear under the threat of soaring crime statistics. Arming more civilians is not likely to lessen the problem. Addressing issues of unemployment and inequalities which already exist are much more likely to.
At the end of the day there is nothing I can do for the US. I am not an American (and grateful for small mercies).
See, here is where you missed the whole point in Conrad's post. It was AFTER the banning of firearms that the crime rate went sky-rocketing! When criminals know their potential victims are unarmed, they become the primary target. What part of that do you not comprehend?Previously I lived in Thailand for 6 years where crime rates are also very low and the city feels very safe. I was quite compfortable allowing my young daughters to go out walking at night by themselves in Krungthep. There it is Buddhism which is responsible for instilling a very peace-loving nature among the people.
Each nation needs to address its own social systemic failures if it is genuinely concerned about its crime rates and values the safety of its citizenry.
As per Conrad's earlier blog, some places in the US appear terrorised by fear under the threat of soaring crime statistics. Arming more civilians is not likely to lessen the problem. Addressing issues of unemployment and inequalities which already exist are much more likely to.
At the end of the day there is nothing I can do for the US. I am not an American (and grateful for small mercies).
And since you seem to have all the answers here, by all means do let us in on your big secret by coming here and converting the criminals to your way of thinking. Sure, walk up to one on the streets and tell him/her your point of view and see what happens! Get real!
I really like it when people who've never owned guns in their life trying to get those who do and have, to get rid of them. So what is it? Do gun owners threaten you or something? Are you afraid of gun owners? It sure seems like that is where the real fear lays!
Oh, and once again, the crime rate here where I am is very low and guess what? Most of the community owns guns! Now don't that just blow your theory out of a cannon!
Crime is simply not tolerated under anyone packing a Smith & Wesson and that has a huge influence.
YouMeUs: See, here is where you missed the whole point in Conrad's post. It was AFTER the banning of firearms that the crime rate went sky-rocketing! When criminals know their potential victims are unarmed, they become the primary target. What part of that do you not comprehend?
And since you seem to have all the answers here, by all means do let us in on your big secret by coming here and converting the criminals to your way of thinking. Sure, walk up to one on the streets and tell him/her your point of view and see what happens! Get real!
I really like it when people who've never owned guns in their life trying to get those who do and have, to get rid of them. So what is it? Do gun owners threaten you or something? Are you afraid of gun owners? It sure seems like that is where the real fear lays!
Oh, and once again, the crime rate here where I am is very low and guess what? Most of the community owns guns! Now don't that just blow your theory out of a cannon!
Crime is simply not tolerated under anyone packing a Smith & Wesson and that has a huge influence.
hi......Y....over here we use caterpaults.......we ars not so advanced as some countries....And since you seem to have all the answers here, by all means do let us in on your big secret by coming here and converting the criminals to your way of thinking. Sure, walk up to one on the streets and tell him/her your point of view and see what happens! Get real!
I really like it when people who've never owned guns in their life trying to get those who do and have, to get rid of them. So what is it? Do gun owners threaten you or something? Are you afraid of gun owners? It sure seems like that is where the real fear lays!
Oh, and once again, the crime rate here where I am is very low and guess what? Most of the community owns guns! Now don't that just blow your theory out of a cannon!
Crime is simply not tolerated under anyone packing a Smith & Wesson and that has a huge influence.
trueheart1941: hi......Y....over here we use caterpaults.......we ars not so advanced as some countries....
But highly effective, no doubt! Hiya P!
YouMeUs: But highly effective, no doubt! Hiya P!
...yes....we used them to knock casle...walls down in the old days......you get a boulder weighing 85 lbs......hitting you on the head ......................it f......ing .....hurts..... I voted no to concealed weapons as I believe we should be permitted to wear them like Roy Rogers and Hopalong Cassidy did, like on the hip in holsters.
Wally1940: I voted no to concealed weapons as I believe we should be permitted to wear them like Roy Rogers and Hopalong Cassidy did, like on the hip in holsters.
...fair comment....but lash.larro only had a whip.....and he still won....... trueheart1941: ...yes....we used them to knock casle...walls down in the old days......you get a boulder weighing 85 lbs......hitting you on the head ......................it f......ing .....hurts.....
But, it feels good when the pain goes away!
And how do you conceal a catapault?
I wonder how many of the alcohol induced assaults that happen regularly in the home or after the pubs come out would become murders if people carried concealed weapons in European countries.
Statistically I'm told that the US is one of the most if not the most violent country in the western world and they have 'The right to bare arms.' That speaks volumes to me. I wouldn't like to see that here.
Statistically I'm told that the US is one of the most if not the most violent country in the western world and they have 'The right to bare arms.' That speaks volumes to me. I wouldn't like to see that here.
YouMeUs: But, it feels good when the pain goes away!
And how do you conceal a catapault?
..........yes providing your can find your head........I ...have a removal van......a fleet in actull fact......when there is trouble....we move in.....in towns it is difficult to find boulders......so we use paving slabs.....And how do you conceal a catapault?
Wally1940: I voted no to concealed weapons as I believe we should be permitted to wear them like Roy Rogers and Hopalong Cassidy did, like on the hip in holsters.
I actually like that idea...
Godsgift: I wonder how many of the alcohol induced assaults that happen regularly in the home or after the pubs come out would become murders if people carried concealed weapons in European countries.
Statistically I'm told that the US is one of the most if not the most violent country in the western world and they have 'The right to bare arms.' That speaks volumes to me. I wouldn't like to see that here.
actually!Statistically I'm told that the US is one of the most if not the most violent country in the western world and they have 'The right to bare arms.' That speaks volumes to me. I wouldn't like to see that here.
Besides Brazil and Russia haven't even been included in above Stats!
Boban1: I actually like that idea...
In the Middle of The Street at High Noon!Godsgift: I wonder how many of the alcohol induced assaults that happen regularly in the home or after the pubs come out would become murders if people carried concealed weapons in European countries.
Statistically I'm told that the US is one of the most if not the most violent country in the western world and they have 'The right to bare arms.' That speaks volumes to me. I wouldn't like to see that here.
And just imagine how much worse it would be if we didn't have the right to bear arms! Oh, and those statistics you speak of, feel free to check those stats per capita.Statistically I'm told that the US is one of the most if not the most violent country in the western world and they have 'The right to bare arms.' That speaks volumes to me. I wouldn't like to see that here.
The thing with the US is, we've always had the right to bear arms from the beginning of our foundation. It is what helped bring our independence. It kept Japan from invading in WWII...and still keeps other countries from invading today.
It is a given right. How many countries welcome having their rights taken away?
So then presumably you would support the principle of allowing Iran to arm itself with nuclear weapons then. The principle is identical and equally flawed.
trisher69: If a person is not a convicted felon, she he/she be permitted to carry a concealed weapon?
Switzerland is a country whereordinary citizens keep Military Grade Weapons at home, by law. Which is unimaginable in many countries. May be everyone has to be forcefully conscripted to Military Duty there.
Rubicon76: So then presumably you would support the principle of allowing Iran to arm itself with nuclear weapons then. The principle is identical and equally flawed.
I'm not sure who you're addressing your comment to. And what does supporting the allowance of nuclear weapons have to do with permitting and carrying concealed weapons? Unless... Are you saying that Iran is secretly concealing the manufacturing of or obtaining nuclear weapons?In either case, it makes no sense to compare WMD's to hand guns.
Rubicon76: So then presumably you would support the principle of allowing Iran to arm itself with nuclear weapons then. The principle is identical and equally flawed.
Why not? Israel was allowed to. The fact is that the west has never attacked a country with nuclear technology. Seems a good reason to me to have them.
YouMeUs: And just imagine how much worse it would be if we didn't have the right to bear arms! Oh, and those statistics you speak of, feel free to check those stats per capita.
The thing with the US is, we've always had the right to bear arms from the beginning of our foundation. It is what helped bring our independence. It kept Japan from invading in WWII...and still keeps other countries from invading today.
It is a given right. How many countries welcome having their rights taken away?
The thing with the US is, we've always had the right to bear arms from the beginning of our foundation. It is what helped bring our independence. It kept Japan from invading in WWII...and still keeps other countries from invading today.
It is a given right. How many countries welcome having their rights taken away?
I don't see Canada, New Zealand, Australia, UK, Ireland etc being invaded nor people subverted and they do not carry arms, concealed or otherwise. To the rest of the world I'm afraid we regard this to be madness.
Conrad73: actually!
Brazil and Russia haven't even been included in above Stats!
Brazil and Russia haven't even been included in above Stats!
My country isn`t on that list... probably cause we use cars more than guns to settle our scores...
i always carry a small bag of black pepper in my top pocket when going to an inner city venue,ive used it twice now,really gives me the edge in a predicament,the pain experienced by an assailant is horrendous,they scream in pain and beg for mercy before you kick their heads in.you justhave to practice getting it out of your pocket quickly,or what i do is wheni,m going to my car i putit inn my hand,and keep it there till i drive off.works fantastic.,butyoubhave to throw it quick and close intheir eyes.
Godsgift: I don't see Canada, New Zealand, Australia, UK, Ireland etc being invaded nor people subverted and they do not carry arms, concealed or otherwise. To the rest of the world I'm afraid we regard this to be madness.
You speak for the world?So tell me then. If it is madness as you so claim, how many American citizens come to your country waving and shooting their firearms at your people? Does this happen on a daily basis? At all?
And, do you like having your rights taken away from you?
Oh, and if memory serves, Canadians are permitted to have firearms. Though I'm not certain hand guns are included.
maxmate1: Only USA attacked another Country with Nukes.
And to clarify, the nukes played a key role in ending World War 2. Nukes have never been used on another country since, and I hope they never get used again.maxmate1: So in order to end the war, usage of nuke is fine and justified?
If you had read my last statement you would see that I do not favor the usage of WMD's.I don't know what books you read or DVD's you watch to give you knowledge of the history of WW2, but at the time the word was given to drop those bombs, Japan was sending children and old men up in aircraft with the sole purpose of suicide attacks against allied forces. The madness had to stop. What option would you have suggested to end that war? I can't think of any and I don't like that such a destructive weapon was even used to end it, but it happened.
YouMeUs: If you had read my last statement you would see that I do not favor the usage of WMD's.
I don't know what books you read or DVD's you watch to give you knowledge of the history of WW2, but at the time the word was given to drop those bombs, Japan was sending children and old men up in aircraft with the sole purpose of suicide attacks against allied forces. The madness had to stop. What option would you have suggested to end that war? I can't think of any and I don't like that such a destructive weapon was even used to end it, but it happened.
I don't know what books you read or DVD's you watch to give you knowledge of the history of WW2, but at the time the word was given to drop those bombs, Japan was sending children and old men up in aircraft with the sole purpose of suicide attacks against allied forces. The madness had to stop. What option would you have suggested to end that war? I can't think of any and I don't like that such a destructive weapon was even used to end it, but it happened.
So the point is taken with utmost clarity. Thanks. So my question is still the same. If such a situation ever arises again, is the usage of Nuke Justified?
maxmate1: So the point is taken with utmost clarity. Thanks. So my question is still the same. If such a situation ever arises again, is the usage of Nuke Justified?
Looking for "fortune tellers"?? and WoW.. what a "loaded" question. No "pun" intended.
maxmate1: So the point is taken with utmost clarity. Thanks. So my question is still the same. If such a situation ever arises again, is the usage of Nuke Justified?
Perhaps you can answer your own question, since you've placed it in hypothetical terms; If a country just pushed the buttons of a nuke aimed at your country, would you do the same in retaliation? Is that justifiable by any standards?Because IF nukes were ever to be used on another country again, I am certain that retaliation will ensue, and I'm not talking just the USA here.
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