Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons? (149)

Mar 9, 2012 2:04 AM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
arapaho: in australia, if you get pulled over by the cops and they see a gun,
bang ! bang ! you could be dead,
toy gun bang ! bang ! you could be dead,

is it true americans use anti aircraft guns to shoot ducks

I've never heard of anyone using anti-aircraft artillary to shoot down ducks. But this is the US, it's possible! laugh
Mar 9, 2012 2:25 AM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
arapaho: in australia, if you get pulled over by the cops and they see a gun,
bang ! bang ! you could be dead,
toy gun bang ! bang ! you could be dead,

is it true americans use anti aircraft guns to shoot ducks
yep,actually the Six-Barrel Gatling-type Vulcan!yay devil

Embedded image from another site
Works well to keep people off'n your Lawn too!rolling on the floor laughing
Mar 9, 2012 5:40 AM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
Rubicon76
Rubicon76Rubicon76Doha, Qatar308 Posts
Man, you guys are so tough. I'm veritably shaking in my boots. Twats.

There is absolutely no justification for the use or carrying of firearms at all, zero, squat. The entire world would have been so vastly better off without such an invention.

It is a typical reaction of gun lobyists to suggest that we must have them to protect ouselves from natural predators. Of course, its much better to shoot the animal than avoiding their habitat in the first place because we, as humans, have absolute rights to all domains. They have no right to be there...obviously.

Guns are designed, manufactured and sold with the sole purpose of shooting and killing animals and people or threatening to do so. Neither of which are particularly noble pursuits.

In my own country I would prefer to see all guns outlawed completely except for the army and limited access for police.
North Americans are quite welcome to shoot each other.

In a perfect world no-one would have weapons.
Perfection may not be achievable but should we not aspire to it?
Mar 9, 2012 5:57 AM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
Pixels1
Pixels1Pixels1London, Greater London, England UK2 Threads 755 Posts
trisher69: If a person is not a convicted felon, she he/she be permitted to carry a concealed weapon?


Depends on the reason but I can understand why personal safety would be a reason
Mar 9, 2012 7:13 AM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
Rubicon76: Man, you guys are so tough. I'm veritably shaking in my boots. Twats.

There is absolutely no justification for the use or carrying of firearms at all, zero, squat. The entire world would have been so vastly better off without such an invention.

It is a typical reaction of gun lobyists to suggest that we must have them to protect ouselves from natural predators. Of course, its much better to shoot the animal than avoiding their habitat in the first place because we, as humans, have absolute rights to all domains. They have no right to be there...obviously.

Guns are designed, manufactured and sold with the sole purpose of shooting and killing animals and people or threatening to do so. Neither of which are particularly noble pursuits.

In my own country I would prefer to see all guns outlawed completely except for the army and limited access for police.
North Americans are quite welcome to shoot each other.

In a perfect world no-one would have weapons.
Perfection may not be achievable but should we not aspire to it?
doh
Try make a Fist without Fingers!Sure great that only Firearms can be used for killing!
Hope you'll find that Utopia some day,but don't hold your Breath until you do!
Mar 9, 2012 7:18 AM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
jackaroo11
jackaroo11jackaroo11elsmere, Kentucky USA6 Threads 1 Polls 95 Posts
yes alot of crazies out there that have no respect for life!!!!
Mar 9, 2012 7:24 AM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
dago08
dago08dago08kansas city mo, Missouri USA129 Posts
trisher69: If a person is not a convicted felon, she he/she be permitted to carry a concealed weapon?
SURE, I CARRY ALL THE TIME
Mar 9, 2012 7:45 AM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?


Washington residents are up in arms, though not armed. With violent crime up 40 percent in the first two months of the year - including double the number of robberies at gunpoint - residents are looking for ways to protect themselves. Elected officials and police have no solution.

Take Benjamin Portman, who lives on Capitol Hill, part of the 1st District, where violent crime has increased the most. A total of 110 incidents have been reported in 2012, a 69 percent jump, according to statistics obtained by The Washington Times. Two weeks ago, Mr. Portman’s male roommate and his girlfriend were robbed by three armed men in ski masks as they walked home on a well-lit street.

That spurred Mr. Portman to attend a community meeting on the increased violence, which was held last week by D.C. Council member Mary M. Cheh, Ward 3 Democrat. Mr. Portman asked officials why the city makes it so difficult for law-abiding residents to register guns and refuses to allow them to carry weapons outside of the home.

As you can see in the video below, Paul Quander, the District’s deputy mayor for public safety and justice, responded that crime victims should give the criminals what they want. Mr. Portman protested, saying, “But how do you know you’re going live and survive? You’re completely at their mercy.”

Mr. Quander thinks victimhood is preferable to self-defense. “The problem is, if you are armed, it escalates the situation,” Mr. Quander told residents. “It is much better, in my opinion, to be scared, to be frightened, and even if you have to be, to be injured, but to walk away and survive. You’ll heal, and you can replace whatever was taken away.”

Kristopher Baumann, head of the D.C. police union, also was at Ms. Cheh’s meeting. “Having the deputy mayor for public safety publicly announce that being victimized is something we, as residents of the District, must accept is disgraceful,” he told The Washington Times. “At the same time, Mr. Quander failed to offer a single short- or long-term solution to fighting crime in this city.”

CONT.
Mar 9, 2012 7:45 AM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
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The police officer added that, “This is a mayor who, as chair of the Council, cut 400 police positions and failed to enact tougher laws for repeat offenders. Now we know why. His crime fighting strategy apparently involves giving up and just living with being scared. Accepting violent crime and victimization is not an acceptable trade-off for living in the District.”

The Washington Times caught up with Police Chief Cathy L. Lanier on Wednesday and asked for her reaction to Mr. Quander’s comments. The police chief did not remember exactly what was said, but she said she thought Mr. Quander was referring only to victims of theft, not physical assault. “We always say, if you are a victim of a robbery, your best thing to do is comply and try to be safe,” the chief said.

Mr. Portman said Chief Lanier approached him after the meeting, but he left unsatisfied. “I think if the chief realized that the police cannot protect us all the time, everywhere, she might come to the conclusion that it’s the right thing for her to recommend relaxing the gun-control laws in the city,” he said in an interview. “I have the right to protect myself if the police can’t.”

While the council is working to ease some registration requirements, that’s not enough. The city needs to recognize that the Second Amendment guarantees not just the right to keep arms at home, but also to bear them. Doing so would give criminals reason to think twice before assaulting residents.


Is that what you all want?doh
Mar 9, 2012 10:42 AM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Rubicon76: Man, you guys are so tough. I'm veritably shaking in my boots. Twats.


Relax. It's only an internet forum so no need to be afraid.

Rubicon76: There is absolutely no justification for the use or carrying of firearms at all, zero, squat. The entire world would have been so vastly better off without such an invention.


Hallloooo! Earth to Rubicon! The world is as it is, not as you wish it to be hence there are bad people in it that wish to harm others.

Rubicon76: It is a typical reaction of gun lobyists to suggest that we must have them to protect ouselves from natural predators. Of course, its much better to shoot the animal than avoiding their habitat in the first place because we, as humans, have absolute rights to all domains. They have no right to be there...obviously.


Hallloooo! Earth to Rubicon! Humans require food, resources and energy hence we will continually be venturing into the wilds to access these things. Remember, the world is as it is, not as you wish it to be.

Hallloooo!Guns are designed, manufactured and sold with the sole purpose of shooting and killing animals and people or threatening to do so. Neither of which are particularly noble pursuits.

Yet because the world is as it is and you have still not changed it to be otherwise it will remain a dangerous place where guns are required.

Hallloooo!In my own country I would prefer to see all guns outlawed completely except for the army and limited access for police.
North Americans are quite welcome to shoot each other.

How humane of you. You care so much for poor predators that would kill and eat an honest man going about his job in order to feed his family but gleefully welcome the thought of an entire nation shooting themselves.

Hallloooo!In a perfect world no-one would have weapons.
Perfection may not be achievable but should we not aspire to it?

Get cracking then as your time is short. You need to develop alternative energy sources without using any raw material whatsoever, conduct biological engineering to develop new strains of human friendly bears, wolves and cats and remove the criminal gene that makes people become dishonest and violent.

Report when this is accomplished so we can get rid of our guns!professor
Mar 9, 2012 10:45 AM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Rubicon76: Man, you guys are so tough. I'm veritably shaking in my boots. Twats.


Relax. It's only an internet forum so no need to be afraid.

Rubicon76: "“There is absolutely no justification for the use or carrying of firearms at all, zero, squat. The entire world would have been so vastly better off without such an invention.


Hallloooo! Earth to Rubicon! The world is as it is, not as you wish it to be hence there are bad people in it that wish to harm others.

Rubicon76: It is a typical reaction of gun lobyists to suggest that we must have them to protect ouselves from natural predators. Of course, its much better to shoot the animal than avoiding their habitat in the first place because we, as humans, have absolute rights to all domains. They have no right to be there...obviously.


Hallloooo! Earth to Rubicon! Humans require food, resources and energy hence we will continually be venturing into the wilds to access these things. Remember, the world is as it is, not as you wish it to be.

Rubicon76: Guns are designed, manufactured and sold with the sole purpose of shooting and killing animals and people or threatening to do so. Neither of which are particularly noble pursuits.


Yet because the world is as it is and you have still not changed it to be otherwise it will remain a dangerous place where guns are required.

Rubicon76: In my own country I would prefer to see all guns outlawed completely except for the army and limited access for police.
North Americans are quite welcome to shoot each other.


How humane of you. You care so much for poor predators that would kill and eat an honest man going about his job in order to feed his family but gleefully welcome the thought of an entire nation shooting themselves.

Rubicon76: In a perfect world no-one would have weapons.
Perfection may not be achievable but should we not aspire to it?


Get cracking then as your time is short. You need to develop alternative energy sources without using any raw material whatsoever, conduct biological engineering to develop new strains of human friendly bears, wolves and cats and remove the criminal gene that makes people become dishonest and violent.

Report when this is accomplished so we can get rid of our guns!
Mar 9, 2012 12:17 PM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
Rubicon76
Rubicon76Rubicon76Doha, Qatar308 Posts
Finished!

Renewable and sustainable energy resources are being developed as we speak.

It is not required to genetically modify any existing species - just stay away from them. As a general rule, if you stay away from them they won't bother you.

And, Newsflash... Criminality has nothing to do with genetics and everything to do with environment. You can go fix that yourself.
Mar 9, 2012 12:19 PM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
Rubicon76: Finished!

Renewable and sustainable energy resources are being developed as we speak.

It is not required to genetically modify any existing species - just stay away from them. As a general rule, if you stay away from them they won't bother you.

And, Newsflash... Criminality has nothing to do with genetics and everything to do with environment. You can go fix that yourself.
any Bears in Qatar?laugh
Mar 9, 2012 12:22 PM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
trueheart1941
trueheart1941trueheart1941brentwood essex, Essex, England UK27 Threads 8,005 Posts
.....I carry 2 revolvers/a bazooker.and a samuri sword....no one bothers me.....snooty rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Mar 9, 2012 12:24 PM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
Rubicon76
Rubicon76Rubicon76Doha, Qatar308 Posts
Conrad73: any Bears in Qatar?


Nope. You are much more likely to get run down by a crazed Arab driving a Camaro.

Any in Zurich?
Mar 9, 2012 12:25 PM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
Rubicon76: Nope. You are much more likely to get run down by a crazed Arab driving a Camaro.

Any in Zurich?
YEP!
Mar 9, 2012 12:26 PM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
trueheart1941
trueheart1941trueheart1941brentwood essex, Essex, England UK27 Threads 8,005 Posts
In response to: I believe people have the right to carry a concealed weapon for their protection especially if they live somewhere that has a high crime rate.
rolling on the floor laughing laugh rolling on the floor laughing your funny......C......laugh
Mar 9, 2012 12:27 PM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
trueheart1941: .....I carry 2 revolvers/a bazooker.and a samuri sword....no one bothers me.....


Hey P, could you imagine going out in Brentwood on a Saturday night and everyone was openly carrying guns?...It would be carnage!!!



uh oh
Mar 9, 2012 12:27 PM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
trueheart1941
trueheart1941trueheart1941brentwood essex, Essex, England UK27 Threads 8,005 Posts
trueheart1941: your funny......C......
oppppps meant for conrad.....
Mar 9, 2012 12:31 PM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
trueheart1941
trueheart1941trueheart1941brentwood essex, Essex, England UK27 Threads 8,005 Posts
bodleing: Hey P, could you imagine going out in Brentwood on a Saturday night and everyone was openly carrying guns?...It would be carnage!!!
....hi bod........have you ever been to brentwood on a sat...nite................like a ukkim cemertery......rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Mar 9, 2012 12:34 PM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
Rubicon76
Rubicon76Rubicon76Doha, Qatar308 Posts
Conrad73: YEP!


I guess you're packing then in case Winnie the Pooh comes for you in the night...
Mar 9, 2012 12:35 PM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
trueheart1941: ....hi bod........have you ever been to brentwood on a sat...nite................like a ukkim cemertery......


I must admit, I never had the dubious pleasure P...laugh

But I do know that most town centres on a Saturday night after midnight resemble a war zone...and that's without any guns!!!

uh oh
Mar 9, 2012 12:39 PM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
trueheart1941
trueheart1941trueheart1941brentwood essex, Essex, England UK27 Threads 8,005 Posts
bodleing: I must admit, I never had the dubious pleasure P...

But I do know that most town centres on a Saturday night after midnight resemble a war zone...and that's without any guns!!!
...ever seen the flim....the living dead......it was filmed here........(no make.up....requied)........rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Mar 9, 2012 12:44 PM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
Rubicon76
Rubicon76Rubicon76Doha, Qatar308 Posts
I saw 'The Living Dead'. It was bloody funny.
Mar 9, 2012 12:44 PM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
trueheart1941: ...ever seen the flim....the living dead......it was filmed here........(no make.up....requied)........


A bit like Hadfield where I used to live.

They filmed The League of Gentlemen series there, an almost unlimited amount of extras for them to use in that town, just act naturally they told them.

laugh
Mar 9, 2012 12:45 PM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
Rubicon76
Rubicon76Rubicon76Doha, Qatar308 Posts
Rubicon76: I saw 'The Living Dead'. It was bloody funny.


No pun intended....
Mar 9, 2012 1:04 PM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
Albertaghost
AlbertaghostAlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada76 Threads 5 Polls 5,914 Posts
Rubicon76: Finished!

Renewable and sustainable energy resources are being developed as we speak.

It is not required to genetically modify any existing species - just stay away from them. As a general rule, if you stay away from them they won't bother you.

And, Newsflash... Criminality has nothing to do with genetics and everything to do with environment. You can go fix that yourself.


Alright. So, when will you have all these problems rectified so we won't need guns? Will be good to know so as to gauge the best time to sell.
Mar 9, 2012 1:21 PM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
Rubicon76
Rubicon76Rubicon76Doha, Qatar308 Posts
Most of the drivers for individuals owning weaponry are social. for example; here in Qatar the crime rates are incredibly low mostly due to socio-religious reasons. Crime is simply not tolerated under Islam and that has a huge influence.

Previously I lived in Thailand for 6 years where crime rates are also very low and the city feels very safe. I was quite compfortable allowing my young daughters to go out walking at night by themselves in Krungthep. There it is Buddhism which is responsible for instilling a very peace-loving nature among the people.

Each nation needs to address its own social systemic failures if it is genuinely concerned about its crime rates and values the safety of its citizenry.

As per Conrad's earlier blog, some places in the US appear terrorised by fear under the threat of soaring crime statistics. Arming more civilians is not likely to lessen the problem. Addressing issues of unemployment and inequalities which already exist are much more likely to.

At the end of the day there is nothing I can do for the US. I am not an American (and grateful for small mercies).
Mar 9, 2012 1:37 PM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
patmac
patmacpatmacglasgow, Strathclyde, Scotland UK730 Threads 6 Polls 9,662 Posts
Nope


grin cheers
Mar 9, 2012 6:25 PM CST Should adults be permitted to carry concealed weapons?
afternoonextacy
afternoonextacyafternoonextacybelleville, Ontario Canada46 Posts
trisher69: If a person is not a convicted felon, she he/she be permitted to carry a concealed weapon?

I am a retired Private Investigator with clearance from the RCMP to carry a concealed weapon and I must tell you in 1945 when I was born all the girl babies in the hospital neo-natal room looked over at this boy and lots of gaga's and sigh's went up in the room when the nurses were away I had to push my call button to keep them away at day 7 of my birth and I realized that I ALWAYS CARRIED A HIDDEN CONCEALED WEAPON FORM BIRTH.
When I was in High School;after gym; my nickname was "TRIPOD."I asked a lady one time at a singles dance"do you have any German in you?"She said "No".I said "do you want some"laugh laugh laugh laugh rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing banana peace

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