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Jul 2, 2008 3:06 PM CSTWould you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan68 Threads 1 Polls 4,749 Posts

Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not(Vote Below)

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No
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Yes
22
16%
Depends on the job
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21%
Depends on the compensation
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Other
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138
Hello All,

I am considering and in fact have a great opportunity to go and work in either Afghanistan or Iraq late this fall after my retirement is settled. It would be working for an NGO and be geared towards reconstruction. I've been to both countries before and am painfully aware of the dangers but there's a part of me that really feels driven to do this. Would any of you go?
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Jul 2, 2008 3:06 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan68 Threads 1 Polls 4,749 Posts
Hello All,

I am considering and in fact have a great opportunity to go and work in either Afghanistan or Iraq late this fall after my retirement is settled. It would be working for an NGO and be geared towards reconstruction. I've been to both countries before and am painfully aware of the dangers but there's a part of me that really feels driven to do this. Would any of you go?
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Jul 2, 2008 3:09 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
gypsykisses
gypsykissesgypsykissesPort Huron, Michigan USA9 Threads 1 Polls 3,242 Posts
Sparky55: Hello All,

I am considering and in fact have a great opportunity to go and work in either Afghanistan or Iraq late this fall after my retirement is settled. It would be working for an NGO and be geared towards reconstruction. I've been to both countries before and am painfully aware of the dangers but there's a part of me that really feels driven to do this. Would any of you go?





scold don't do it....there's so much crap in the soil from all of the bombs and such, it wouldn't be worth it.

If you feel the need to help, do something saferhug
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Jul 2, 2008 3:12 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
shipoker55
shipoker55shipoker55St. Petersburg, Florida USA256 Threads 2 Polls 12,797 Posts
Sparky55: Hello All,

I am considering and in fact have a great opportunity to go and work in either Afghanistan or Iraq late this fall after my retirement is settled. It would be working for an NGO and be geared towards reconstruction. I've been to both countries before and am painfully aware of the dangers but there's a part of me that really feels driven to do this. Would any of you go?




Sure....go where the money is!!
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Jul 2, 2008 3:29 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan68 Threads 1 Polls 4,749 Posts
shipoker55: Sure....go where the money is!!


It's not about money. I could make money with KBR, Dynacorp, Black water and others.
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Jul 2, 2008 3:32 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan68 Threads 1 Polls 4,749 Posts
gypsykisses: don't do it....there's so much crap in the soil from all of the bombs and such, it wouldn't be worth it.

If you feel the need to help, do something safer


Thanks, I'm still mulling it over. I have awhile before I need to accept or not. I'm glad you posted as you brought something up I hadn't thought about
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Jul 2, 2008 3:32 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
kissmedeeply
kissmedeeplykissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada81 Threads 21,310 Posts
Sparky55: Hello All,

I am considering and in fact have a great opportunity to go and work in either Afghanistan or Iraq late this fall after my retirement is settled. It would be working for an NGO and be geared towards reconstruction. I've been to both countries before and am painfully aware of the dangers but there's a part of me that really feels driven to do this. Would any of you go?

I say if you want to go and work there then you should do it...

you said you are aware of the dangers and so on...

You will always wonder about it...be safe..be alert..

I say Go for it...hug
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Jul 2, 2008 3:35 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan68 Threads 1 Polls 4,749 Posts
kissmedeeply: I say if you want to go and work there then you should do it...

you said you are aware of the dangers and so on...

You will always wonder about it...be safe..be alert..

I say Go for it...


Thanks..
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Jul 2, 2008 3:40 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada82 Threads 3 Polls 34,865 Posts
Sparky55: Hello All,

I am considering and in fact have a great opportunity to go and work in either Afghanistan or Iraq late this fall after my retirement is settled. It would be working for an NGO and be geared towards reconstruction. I've been to both countries before and am painfully aware of the dangers but there's a part of me that really feels driven to do this. Would any of you go?


I wouldn't go work in either country....the fact still remains that Americans are targets by the insurgents no matter what job you do in either country....they love to target civilians....in my mind it's still too risky and dangerous....Americans are kidnapped and killed all the time...no matter what they are doing in those countries!!!!!!!!!


wine
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Jul 2, 2008 3:40 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
gypsykisses
gypsykissesgypsykissesPort Huron, Michigan USA9 Threads 1 Polls 3,242 Posts
Sparky55: Thanks, I'm still mulling it over. I have awhile before I need to accept or not. I'm glad you posted as you brought something up I hadn't thought about




professor what didn't you understand in my post? I said don't do it!snooty



rolling on the floor laughing tongue rolling on the floor laughing


professor You shall mind me Mister....very mad
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Jul 2, 2008 3:41 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
kissmedeeply
kissmedeeplykissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada81 Threads 21,310 Posts
Sparky55: Thanks..
It seems like you have a little time to think it over...

You did say the Fall...

but as i read it you seem as its leaning toward wanting that opportunity...

Way out the pros and cons....

But i wish you all the best in ur decsions...

I think only you know what is good for you....

Sometimes it is about taking the Risk...

All the best in what you decide...hug
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Jul 2, 2008 3:45 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan68 Threads 1 Polls 4,749 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: I wouldn't go work in either country....the fact still remains that Americans are targets by the insurgents no matter what job you do in either country....they love to target civilians....in my mind it's still too risky and dangerous....Americans are kidnapped and killed all the time...no matter what they are doing in those countries!!!!!!!!!


Thanks for your comments Hugs and you're right we are targets there. That's a definate consideration as I poder this.
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Jul 2, 2008 3:45 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 12,827 Posts
Reconstruction might be a cool thing.

What is it that's drawing you to it? dunno
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Jul 2, 2008 3:46 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan68 Threads 1 Polls 4,749 Posts
gypsykisses: what didn't you understand in my post? I said don't do it!
You shall mind me Mister....

I like it when you're dominant!, makes me hot.. laugh

Seriously, you are sweet to be concerned
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Jul 2, 2008 3:48 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
metalartist989
metalartist989metalartist989Midland, USA3 Threads 200 Posts
I have lots of friends who have been offered the same deals. Since you're aware of the dangers but driven to go do it.. I say go. Especially since you said it's not about the money.. It's better to regret something you have done than something you haven't.

but yeah... I'd say you should weigh out your options a little as far as the job you take. If you don't want to deal with the dangers, try to take a job ON POST.
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Jul 2, 2008 3:48 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan68 Threads 1 Polls 4,749 Posts
kissmedeeply: It seems like you have a little time to think it over...

You did say the Fall...

but as i read it you seem as its leaning toward wanting that opportunity...

Way out the pros and cons....

But i wish you all the best in ur decsions...

I think only you know what is good for you....

Sometimes it is about taking the Risk...

All the best in what you decide...


I do have some time which is good. I like to really think about things like this before I act and this is an important decision. You are right also that I am leaning towards it and I do appreciate your comments. wine
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Jul 2, 2008 3:49 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
metalartist989
metalartist989metalartist989Midland, USA3 Threads 200 Posts
gypsykisses: don't do it....there's so much crap in the soil from all of the bombs and such, it wouldn't be worth it.

If you feel the need to help, do something safer


crap in the soil? confused you making this deduction from your vast experience with explosives and ordnance?
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Jul 2, 2008 3:53 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
gypsykisses
gypsykissesgypsykissesPort Huron, Michigan USA9 Threads 1 Polls 3,242 Posts
metalartist989: crap in the soil? you making this deduction from your vast experience with explosives and ordnance?



shut it......
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Jul 2, 2008 3:54 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
gypsykisses
gypsykissesgypsykissesPort Huron, Michigan USA9 Threads 1 Polls 3,242 Posts
Sparky55: I like it when you're dominant!, makes me hot..

Seriously, you are sweet to be concerned




comfort hug teddybear
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Jul 2, 2008 3:54 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan68 Threads 1 Polls 4,749 Posts
WhatUwish4: Reconstruction might be a cool thing.

What is it that's drawing you to it?


It does sound like pretty neat stuff and I have been in contact with others doing similar work.

What's drawing me is really complicated but to make a long story short, I am really concerned about being able to transition back to a "normal life" I have spent the better part of the past 28 years overseas. Initially, as I approached retirement I thought it would be great to go back home but I am finding that you can never really go back. Besides, they are pretty screwed up places right now and there's actually a push to help.
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Jul 2, 2008 3:57 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada82 Threads 3 Polls 34,865 Posts
Sparky55: I do have some time which is good. I like to really think about things like this before I act and this is an important decision. You are right also that I am leaning towards it and I do appreciate your comments.



Well it's a huge decision...not one I would do....BUT if you do go...Just be careful....there is certainly more than a little danger there for Americans and other civilians of anyone involved in the war!!!!!!


hug cheers hug comfort
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Jul 2, 2008 3:58 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 12,827 Posts
Sparky55: It does sound like pretty neat stuff and I have been in contact with others doing similar work.

What's drawing me is really complicated but to make a long story short, I am really concerned about being able to transition back to a "normal life" I have spent the better part of the past 28 years overseas. Initially, as I approached retirement I thought it would be great to go back home but I am finding that you can never really go back. Besides, they are pretty screwed up places right now and there's actually a push to help.



I would think it would be terribly difficult to get accustomed to all our "sloth" after being in such a different environment. When I'm faced with decisions like this, I usually find some quiet time, a big glass of wine, and I sit down and ask the one question that always gets my imagination going....

"Where do you want to be 10 years from now?"

Usually after considering things from "the sky is the limit" perspective, the answers start coming to me. Sounds crazy, but it's a really good exercise.

Good luck.
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Jul 2, 2008 4:06 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan68 Threads 1 Polls 4,749 Posts
metalartist989: I have lots of friends who have been offered the same deals. Since you're aware of the dangers but driven to go do it.. I say go. Especially since you said it's not about the money.. It's better to regret something you have done than something you haven't.

but yeah... I'd say you should weigh out your options a little as far as the job you take. If you don't want to deal with the dangers, try to take a job ON POST.


Thanks, I agree with taking a job on post. Most of the NGOs are co-located with force protection and are escorted while off post but we've all seen what can happen.

I can understand how some are drawn to the region for money but I don't think I could do it for that purpose. I just think the work is worthwhile and I want a challenge & a sense of accomplishment.

Thanks again for your comment
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Jul 2, 2008 4:11 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA230 Threads 9 Polls 27,698 Posts
Sparky55: Hello All,

I am considering and in fact have a great opportunity to go and work in either Afghanistan or Iraq late this fall after my retirement is settled. It would be working for an NGO and be geared towards reconstruction. I've been to both countries before and am painfully aware of the dangers but there's a part of me that really feels driven to do this. Would any of you go?


Only if I could work for Bushney's Halliburton. applause
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Jul 2, 2008 4:21 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
shipoker55
shipoker55shipoker55St. Petersburg, Florida USA256 Threads 2 Polls 12,797 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: I wouldn't go work in either country....the fact still remains that Americans are targets by the insurgents no matter what job you do in either country....they love to target civilians....in my mind it's still too risky and dangerous....Americans are kidnapped and killed all the time...no matter what they are doing in those countries!!!!!!!!!




More are killed on our streets than overseas!!!
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Jul 2, 2008 4:21 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan68 Threads 1 Polls 4,749 Posts
Indyfella: Only if I could work for Bushney's Halliburton.


If I had thought about that, I would have added it as an option.. laugh
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Jul 2, 2008 4:24 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan68 Threads 1 Polls 4,749 Posts
WhatUwish4: I would think it would be terribly difficult to get accustomed to all our "sloth" after being in such a different environment. When I'm faced with decisions like this, I usually find some quiet time, a big glass of wine, and I sit down and ask the one question that always gets my imagination going....

"Where do you want to be 10 years from now?"

Usually after considering things from "the sky is the limit" perspective, the answers start coming to me. Sounds crazy, but it's a really good exercise.

Good luck.


I will have to try that but I'll probably do it with a beer or two (I am sooo uncultured) laugh
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Jul 2, 2008 4:29 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 12,827 Posts
Sparky55: I will have to try that but I'll probably do it with a beer or two (I am sooo uncultured)


Ok. beer it is... but before you get all deep in thought...we still need to talk the "prize" you won. I need info before I can proceed... laugh laugh laugh
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Jul 2, 2008 4:30 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
Galactic_bodhi
Galactic_bodhiGalactic_bodhiAkron, Ohio USA786 Threads 2 Polls 12,449 Posts
NGO or GO...they couldn't pay me enough to get kidnapped...doh uh oh
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Jul 2, 2008 4:38 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
mastic55
mastic55mastic55Long Island, New York USA217 Threads 10,073 Posts
They are all working here in the delis and gas stations so I dont think jobs are there..I would have to say no..
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Jul 2, 2008 4:39 PM CST Would you work in Afghanistan or Iraq & why or why not
RobbieM
RobbieMRobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK172 Threads 10 Polls 7,930 Posts
I'll give you really specific advice which i hope you will take very seriously if you consider working in either country.

Find out where you will be contracted on what basis and find out the conditions you will be housed in, IE will you be housed in a guarded complex by "contract agent security" or guarded by the military, as there's a specific difference.

The locals are embedded even through the security service right down to the ministry of the interior so never travel anywhere without a loaded firearm and i'm not just talking about a sidearm and make sure you carry a grenade specifically around your neck, just in case the worst may happen.

Then there's what you will actually be doing and if you have and what the security detail will be, or if you will be providing this service to others?

Remember, your personal security is dependant on say 8 people you will not know and have no idea on their capabilities or professionalism, especially if their "subcontracted in".

Also it's important to remember contracters have no authority and are basically a private army who aren't accountable so you never know if your mixing with "Wash outs" and the only criteria for signing on is the ability to hold it together until your on the aircraft and don't have a mental breakdown on site!!

If you go make sure you spend plenty of time on a range and make damn sure you can clean your sidearm with virtually your eyes closed to clear any stoppage in your sleep.

All else fails you can always find some poor sod like me to watch over you!
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