Which Payments should be cut to save money and what shouldnt be touched (175)
whitepaws: Hey im wearing Arab gear
Put the gear to use!! Go up and blow Gilmore to kingdom come!!
royallee: Ah noooooooooooo............. we could not let you emigrate as you are still being fed by the (.)(.) ............... as soon as you move on to solids ................................. as far away as possible
Do you want to keep this going on different threads???
It's a bit stupid to make assumptions about something you know nothing about too...but then again making yourself look stupid is something you've been good at today...you're on a roll, keep up the good work
mr1983: I read a story. If we put 2euro into a box,every second for the next 499 years, then we will have paid of Anglo's debt! And that's about 40 billion. So go to the toilet again because that should really sicken you!
My year date may be wrong but it is something crazy like that!
My year date may be wrong but it is something crazy like that!
haha with all the puking im doing...I wont live that long haha. Just hope they dont cut the dole tho....cos they wont be able to put a penny in let alone 2 euro.. Now I guess Im gonna get slaughtered!!!! Bring it on lol
mcattack: Do you want to keep this going on different threads???
It's a bit stupid to make assumptions about something you know nothing about too...but then again making yourself look stupid is something you've been good at today...you're on a roll, keep up the good work
It's a bit stupid to make assumptions about something you know nothing about too...but then again making yourself look stupid is something you've been good at today...you're on a roll, keep up the good work
TEASE: thats the spirit
if you have any beans left can I have some
if you have any beans left can I have some
So now I cant even have a tin o beans to myself hahaha But sure....no problems Tease...I would share with anybody..
mr1983: I have to agree to a certain extent with Whitepaws here. If we are going to send people on a trade mission to America or somewhere, we don't want to look like we arrived from Nigeria. The same thing goes for all them clowns in the Dail(Ming, Mick wallace,etc). They are representing the higest public office in the country. They should act like it and not like a pack of knackers!
Well yu just proved my point.....actually, knackers would have more respect for the country than what they have....so ya...put them on the holding compartment on a plane, dont even give em a seat....hahaha
dee048: Well yu just proved my point.....actually, knackers would have more respect for the country than what they have....so ya...put them on the holding compartment on a plane, dont even give em a seat....hahaha
It is not about them having respect for the country with trade missions,etc. It is us. Surely we want to make a good impression which will help get inward investment into this country! We are dealing with some of the biggest companies in the world on these missions. I'm sure a delegation from Ireland, in a Ryanair economy class plane, would not make a good impression on the likes of Intel and Apple directors.
mr1983: It is not about them having respect for the country with trade missions,etc. It is us. Surely we want to make a good impression which will help get inward investment into this country! We are dealing with some of the biggest companies in the world on these missions. I'm sure a delegation from Ireland, in a Ryanair economy class plane, would not make a good impression on the likes of Intel and Apple directors.
I dont think they would give a damn to be honest mr1983. And who's gonna tell them??? Sure they would be getting out of a taxi and going to their offices, they would be none the wiser :-) And if I were head of Apple or such... I would think twice about getting involved with us knowing how much money the govmt has wasted :-) Its common knowledge, but If I knew that they heads of our country were trying to economise, then maybe I would give them the benefit of the doubt :-)
dee048: I dont think they would give a damn to be honest mr1983. And who's gonna tell them??? Sure they would be getting out of a taxi and going to their offices, they would be none the wiser :-) And if I were head of Apple or such... I would think twice about getting involved with us knowing how much money the govmt has wasted :-) Its common knowledge, but If I knew that they heads of our country were trying to economise, then maybe I would give them the benefit of the doubt :-)
Trade missions bring business people from Ireland to places also. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't like ryanair economy class. If we want to deal with people in the business world, we have to act like them!
dee048: So now I cant even have a tin o beans to myself hahaha But sure....no problems Tease...I would share with anybody..
Im afraid to ask you for a bit of toast with the beans now
Less of the "knackers" lark...
mr1983: It is not about them having respect for the country with trade missions,etc. It is us. Surely we want to make a good impression which will help get inward investment into this country! We are dealing with some of the biggest companies in the world on these missions. I'm sure a delegation from Ireland, in a Ryanair economy class plane, would not make a good impression on the likes of Intel and Apple directors.
maybe it would make an impression though, ryanair is a great example of an irish success storyMADDOG69: Less of the "knackers" lark...
True! I didn't mean to use the word in the way it might appear.
It seems at the minute we all agree that the Elderly , the hospitals and the disabled should not be touched
The poll leaders are Increase Taxes and cut the public sector jobs, This is closely followed by cutting single parents and child benefit ....
The poll leaders are Increase Taxes and cut the public sector jobs, This is closely followed by cutting single parents and child benefit ....
whitepaws: It seems at the minute we all agree that the Elderly , the hospitals and the disabled should not be touched
The poll leaders are Increase Taxes and cut the public sector jobs, This is closely followed by cutting single parents and child benefit ....
The poll leaders are Increase Taxes and cut the public sector jobs, This is closely followed by cutting single parents and child benefit ....
Well they know something has to be done with the public sector. Their pensions are huge, they get a years wages when they retire!, they are far better paid than they should be at the higher levels. (Not the ones on under 35k). And in a recent survey they take twice the amont of sick days as the private sector and far less hours! The country can't afforrd that anymore.
But the fact we give millionaire pensioners medical cards is silly too. If you are over 70 and worth millions the state should not pay for your health care!
And we need to stop payment of childrens allowance to people earning large sums. The government are talking about taxing it but in the UK they stopped payments to people earning over 90kstg PA. We should do the same here. If you don't need it you shouldn't get it! Simple.
I totally agree that Child Benefit should be means tested, I also think people with twins/triplets should not be getting paid for an extra child.
Lone parent always gets a kick in the teeth which is not fair as not everyone is having kids to claim money, some of us want to work but can't find a job. I never in a million years thought I would be living as a single parent but here I am and I struggle as it is...........I don't want my child to suffer because some are greedy and take all they can get.
If I can get a job I will be more than happy to take it and never look back, even if it means I am no better off as at least then I will be doing it on my own and not asking for help.
Lone parent always gets a kick in the teeth which is not fair as not everyone is having kids to claim money, some of us want to work but can't find a job. I never in a million years thought I would be living as a single parent but here I am and I struggle as it is...........I don't want my child to suffer because some are greedy and take all they can get.
If I can get a job I will be more than happy to take it and never look back, even if it means I am no better off as at least then I will be doing it on my own and not asking for help.
anniebaby: I totally agree that Child Benefit should be means tested, I also think people with twins/triplets should not be getting paid for an extra child.
Lone parent always gets a kick in the teeth which is not fair as not everyone is having kids to claim money, some of us want to work but can't find a job. I never in a million years thought I would be living as a single parent but here I am and I struggle as it is...........I don't want my child to suffer because some are greedy and take all they can get.
If I can get a job I will be more than happy to take it and never look back, even if it means I am no better off as at least then I will be doing it on my own and not asking for help.
Lone parent always gets a kick in the teeth which is not fair as not everyone is having kids to claim money, some of us want to work but can't find a job. I never in a million years thought I would be living as a single parent but here I am and I struggle as it is...........I don't want my child to suffer because some are greedy and take all they can get.
If I can get a job I will be more than happy to take it and never look back, even if it means I am no better off as at least then I will be doing it on my own and not asking for help.
Definitely should be means tested but it wont ever happen because that means the people in government would stop getting it for their kids. And they like to put it away and give it to them when they are 18 to travel around the world or something. Totally not what the money is meant for!
It would be so simple to start means testing it from 2013 but they pretend there are all these problems. They never found any problems when bringing in the property tax and all the other new taxes.
sofarsogood74: Definitely should be means tested but it wont ever happen because that means the people in government would stop getting it for their kids. And they like to put it away and give it to them when they are 18 to travel around the world or something. Totally not what the money is meant for!
It would be so simple to start means testing it from 2013 but they pretend there are all these problems. They never found any problems when bringing in the property tax and all the other new taxes.
It would be so simple to start means testing it from 2013 but they pretend there are all these problems. They never found any problems when bringing in the property tax and all the other new taxes.
I agree, imagine the uproar if they started means testing it from next year...............I really wish I could put it away for my wee one so that she can do something when she is 18 but that won't happen ever.
The public sector are over paid and there are too many doing nothing. Slash the numbers and salaries, crush the unions.
Social welfare rates are too high. Forget about giving them dole,and replace it with food vouchers.
Childrens allowance should be scrapped completely.
Foreigners to get no state assistance.
Social welfare rates are too high. Forget about giving them dole,and replace it with food vouchers.
Childrens allowance should be scrapped completely.
Foreigners to get no state assistance.
anniebaby: I agree, imagine the uproar if they started means testing it from next year...............I really wish I could put it away for my wee one so that she can do something when she is 18 but that won't happen ever.
But I dont agree with putting it away. Thats not what the payment is for and nor what it was started for. My thinking is if you can put it away then you should not be getting it.
stanley8m: The public sector are over paid and there are too many doing nothing. Slash the numbers and salaries, crush the unions.
Social welfare rates are too high. Forget about giving them dole,and replace it with food vouchers.
Childrens allowance should be scrapped completely.
Foreigners to get no state assistance.
Social welfare rates are too high. Forget about giving them dole,and replace it with food vouchers.
Childrens allowance should be scrapped completely.
Foreigners to get no state assistance.
Food vouchers? Really. Take someone who has worked and paid taxes for 30 years and now finds themself unemployed. You would make them take food vouchers to a supermarket??? You would demean a person in that way because they can't find work through no fault of their own!???
And how do they pay their bills with food vouchers? Buy kids school books and uniforms? And all the other expenses that pop up?
For the cost of living in Ireland the dole is low. I would love to see people who say its too high live on 188 euro a week and pay their bils and buy food from that.
sofarsogood74: But I dont agree with putting it away. Thats not what the payment is for and nor what it was started for. My thinking is if you can put it away then you should not be getting it.
Well I did say wish
it pays for stuff for her as its meant to doanniebaby: Well I did say wish it pays for stuff for her as its meant to do
Exactly.
It was a payment brought in to make sure children had enough to eat, had enough clothes and had their basic needs met. It wasn't brought in for high earners to bank for 18 years and then hand it to that child for a huge holiday.
whitepaws: With more savings to be made and the talk of Thurles Hospital closing and People with intellectual Disabilities having their funding cut i was wondering if you had to , which would you cut to keep the other services payments going Or is there something we havent thought of ...
It's going to be the vulnerable and the less well off who will be
affected as usual and the ones who could afford a cut won't be touched,
but then that's the so called democratic state we live in.
granuaile: It's going to be the vulnerable and the less well off who will be
affected as usual and the ones who could afford a cut won't be touched,
but then that's the so called democratic state we live in.
affected as usual and the ones who could afford a cut won't be touched,
but then that's the so called democratic state we live in.
True but lets not let the helpless vulnerables suffer ....lets own up to where savings can be made and turn this around
whitepaws: True but lets not let the helpless vulnerables suffer ....lets own up to where savings can be made and turn this around
There is no doubt savings can be made but the gov doesn't want to look at certain savings because it will effect them directly. Savings should be made where people can afford them. We need a 3rd rate of tax for very high earners like the UK. We also need to stop giving money to people who dont need it. It happens every month.
Even the IMF said the pain needs to be spread more and people on low incomes were suffering more.
whitepaws: True but lets not let the helpless vulnerables suffer ....lets own up to where savings can be made and turn this around
Everyone knows even the dogs on the street know where cuts and savings can be made, but it won't happen, I thought when this government were elected
we had some chance of seeing radical change here, but unfortunately it hasn't happened nor will it happen. We all know the government will look after themselves and their cronies, its. will be the vulnerable and the helpless who undoubtedly will suffer as always.
granuaile: I thought when this government were elected
we had some chance of seeing radical change here
we had some chance of seeing radical change here
You did?
More Threads
How far is too far?
rarotonga
1830's Music
Salami, Salami, Baloney
What I Lack In Vocabulary
Icebergs Still Around
everything is changing
Reality Check
Nature
Don Shits-In-Pants!!!
More Threads
Report threads that break rules, are offensive, or contain fighting. Staff may not be aware of the forum abuse, and cannot do anything about it unless you tell us about it. click to report forum abuse »
To an extent yes but as their representing Us the people to people abroad who potentially can throw work our way , I believe they should not arrive on a ryan air flight and stay in hostels but accord them a flight and accomodation that doesnt make us look like a country of hillbillys jmo