So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract? (109)

Aug 24, 2008 9:02 AM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
I once had a boss who had this huge wonderful moustache that suited him wonderfully. He got remarried and the next thing I knew it was gone after YEARS and YEARS. What a pity. I wanted to shoot her! LOL
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Aug 24, 2008 9:04 AM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
rwantin
rwantinrwantinRoyal Oak, Michigan USA17 Threads 8,924 Posts
WhatUwish4: But whta would you do if she asked you to shave????


Tell the truth


Well, I suppose it would grow back, albeit grayer...uh oh
Aug 24, 2008 9:06 AM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
rwantin: Well, I suppose it would grow back, albeit grayer...


Oh well...What's a few more.

BTW... I offered to conduct a funeral for my bosses moustache. Let us know about the goatee and we can do the same someday! But please put it in your pre-nup!
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Aug 24, 2008 9:10 AM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
I'm not signing it...so just drop it....OR the engagements OFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!



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Aug 24, 2008 7:13 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
kissmedeeply
kissmedeeplykissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada70 Threads 15,139 Posts
nomindgames: Looks like I stand alone here.No,wouldn't and if I had whatever,no wouldn't ask him to.Marriage is not what many people have made itSupposeto be till death and I agree.I don't believe in divorce unless other commits a crime to you or whoever.I think it causes self fufilling prophocey.f you can't trust the other,don't get married.If you got $,then put some away before marriage and remember you have a will too.Just protect your kids.I am not material person and won't marry 1 who is.JMO


Your not alone i agree 100% with you on this..

I wont sign one..You have to TRust one another..and if you cant do that then why marry..thumbs up
Aug 24, 2008 7:16 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
mbcasey
mbcaseymbcaseyNorth Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA68 Threads 7 Polls 16,449 Posts
I definitely want one...

Noone is entitled to my debt...it is mine...all mine!!!!!uh oh
Aug 24, 2008 7:16 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
kissmedeeply: Your not alone i agree 100% with you on this..

I wont sign one..You have to TRust one another..and if you cant do that then why marry..



Yep...I agree...discussing divorce and division of assets before you are even married...UMMMMMMM No thanx...If you can't trust me not to take you for all you're worth if we split..then don't bother marrying me..I say!!!!!!!!


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Aug 24, 2008 7:17 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
kissmedeeply
kissmedeeplykissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada70 Threads 15,139 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: Yep...I agree...discussing divorce and division of assets before you are even married...UMMMMMMM No thanx...If you can't trust me not to take you for all you're worth if we split..then don't bother marrying me..I say!!!!!!!!


You said it Doll...

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Aug 24, 2008 7:56 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
Interesting results on the poll. At lest two women and two men on this site are either illiterate or don't understand the English language. laugh

I like the idea of a pre-nup, it takes some of the possible wondering out of the equation. If it boils down to being a trust issue, then it can be argued either way. If one isn't out for the money then signing one shouldn't be a problem.

It's a sad fact that divorce is prevalent in our society and even though most people marry with the intent on staying together until "death do us part", stat's show otherwise. I've watched a few friends get "cleaned out" over the years and even though it started out as "forever" it didn't turn out that way.

If I was 15 years younger maybe I wouldn't care, but I'm not, so I do, and I wouldn't enter into any "contract" such as marriage without protecting myself in some fashion. It would be stupid not to.

It has less to do with materialism than it does with living in a rented apartment and eating cat food in the future. I don't want that for myself, ever, so I'll do what's neccessary to try and prevent it from happening. If that includes a pre-nup, then it's a guarantee.
Aug 24, 2008 7:58 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
iamsimply
iamsimplyiamsimplyHolland Landing, Ontario Canada15 Threads 6 Polls 166 Posts
People don't separate or divorce under loving circumstances! They divorce because their upset, angry, frustrated, dissilusioned or some other bad reason! By this time love is gone and revenge is haded to a lawyer to doll out to the spouse. If a woman has a home, assets, pensions or whatever they can be tapped into by a man who isn't happy with her actions in the relationship and vice versa! Yes even pensions are up for grab when you retire! If a woman thinks she walks holding a bag of loot because the guy pissed her off during the relationship, she may be disappointed >>>> see my previous post and poll "Could You Marry For A Reason Other Than Money" results!

Please refrain from personal attacks and offer objective answers~~~
Aug 24, 2008 7:59 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
WhatUwish4: I believe the common practice is to increase the proportion of assets with each year of marriage (used to date a trust attorney - at least that's how he did it).

I don't think I would get into all that. I would just want some sort of simple agreement that says this is theirs no matter what. I don't worry about the sticks and bricks unless they are family heirlooms better left with them for memory sake.




That's odd, my son happened to come over yesterday and I went thru a few things that I'd like to stay in the family, including my mom's hope chest....... (to his daughter). By the time she gets it, it'll be 70 years old...
Aug 24, 2008 8:15 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
iamsimply
iamsimplyiamsimplyHolland Landing, Ontario Canada15 Threads 6 Polls 166 Posts
kidatheart: Interesting results on the poll. At lest two women and two men on this site are either illiterate or don't understand the English language.

I like the idea of a pre-nup, it takes some of the possible wondering out of the equation. If it boils down to being a trust issue, then it can be argued either way. If one isn't out for the money then signing one shouldn't be a problem.

It's a sad fact that divorce is prevalent in our society and even though most people marry with the intent on staying together until "death do us part", stat's show otherwise. I've watched a few friends get "cleaned out" over the years and even though it started out as "forever" it didn't turn out that way.

If I was 15 years younger maybe I wouldn't care, but I'm not, so I do, and I wouldn't enter into any "contract" such as marriage without protecting myself in some fashion. It would be stupid not to.

It has less to do with materialism than it does with living in a rented apartment and eating cat food in the future. I don't want that for myself, ever, so I'll do what's neccessary to try and prevent it from happening. If that includes a pre-nup, then it's a guarantee.


IMHO! I think you stated a fact / facts most men think about before going into a 'permanent' relationship with a woman!
I feel the same way and am too old to recover financial loss. The courts don't treat guys very nice and usually side with the woman. If you think about what the poll is showing , it means a lot of guys are worried about this issue and may not enter a relation ship with a woman that says no or vice versa! Maybe a reason some people are alone today! The majority of men want it and the majority of women don't stating trust and love as factors but when the relationship ends trust and love are gone and so is someones life savings!

Pls refrain from personal attacks and answer objectively!
Aug 24, 2008 8:16 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
iamsimply: IMHO! I think you stated a fact / facts most men think about before going into a 'permanent' relationship with a woman!
I feel the same way and am too old to recover financial loss. The courts don't treat guys very nice and usually side with the woman. If you think about what the poll is showing , it means a lot of guys are worried about this issue and may not enter a relation ship with a woman that says no or vice versa! Maybe a reason some people are alone today! The majority of men want it and the majority of women don't stating trust and love as factors but when the relationship ends trust and love are gone and so is someones life savings!

Pls refrain from personal attacks and answer objectively!


you make a relevant point.....
Aug 24, 2008 8:24 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
iamsimply: IMHO! I think you stated a fact / facts most men think about before going into a 'permanent' relationship with a woman!
I feel the same way and am too old to recover financial loss. The courts don't treat guys very nice and usually side with the woman. If you think about what the poll is showing , it means a lot of guys are worried about this issue and may not enter a relation ship with a woman that says no or vice versa! Maybe a reason some people are alone today! The majority of men want it and the majority of women don't stating trust and love as factors but when the relationship ends trust and love are gone and so is someones life savings!

Pls refrain from personal attacks and answer objectively!



People change, and feelings change. The only thing I'm betting on being forever is death.laugh

The rest is risk management and if trust if the issue, then sign to take that worry away. It's not that big of a deal to me.
Aug 24, 2008 8:33 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
iamsimply
iamsimplyiamsimplyHolland Landing, Ontario Canada15 Threads 6 Polls 166 Posts
This poll indicates there is only a 50% chance of a a woman sying no to a pre-nup

There is a 69% chance of a guy wanting a pre-nup

So what are the chances of nearly 70% of the guys getting together with only 50% of the women on the site if a
pre-nup or contract is desired?
Aug 24, 2008 8:37 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
iamsimply
iamsimplyiamsimplyHolland Landing, Ontario Canada15 Threads 6 Polls 166 Posts
iamsimply: This poll indicates there is only a 50% chance of a a woman sying no to a pre-nup

There is a 69% chance of a guy wanting a pre-nup

So what are the chances of nearly 70% of the guys getting together with only 50% of the women on the site if a
pre-nup or contract is desired?



I hope I stated that properly but you can see whhat I'm getting at, I hope! LOLdrinking
Aug 24, 2008 8:37 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
iamsimply: This poll indicates there is only a 50% chance of a a woman sying no to a pre-nup

There is a 69% chance of a guy wanting a pre-nup

So what are the chances of nearly 70% of the guys getting together with only 50% of the women on the site if a
pre-nup or contract is desired?



You may be onto something. laugh
Aug 24, 2008 8:48 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
kkitty4u
kkitty4ukkitty4uSt Paul, Minnesota USA24 Threads 3 Polls 1,138 Posts
nooooooooo the whole purpose of marriage is till death do you part and if you need a prenup why are you even thinking of getting married
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Aug 24, 2008 8:49 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
iamsimply
iamsimplyiamsimplyHolland Landing, Ontario Canada15 Threads 6 Polls 166 Posts
Indyfella: You may be onto something.


I think if some women would re-think this issue and wanted to reassure a fellow that her reason for wanting to marry or live together was only for love and sharing the living expenses then more unions would be formed, according to this small poll! According to my other poll very few women indicated they would NOT marry for anything other than love ... so why not a contract?

frustrated drinking beer

Pls refrain from personal attack and answer objectively!
Aug 24, 2008 9:03 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
kkitty4u: nooooooooo the whole purpose of marriage is till death do you part and if you need a prenup why are you even thinking of getting married



To protect one's self from losing everything.

Marriage isn't what it used to be. Forget about yesteryear, it's in the past, history. laugh

Statistics show that. Retired divorced people starving also show the facts.
Aug 24, 2008 9:08 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
kkitty4u
kkitty4ukkitty4uSt Paul, Minnesota USA24 Threads 3 Polls 1,138 Posts
kidatheart: To protect one's self from losing everything.

Marriage isn't what it used to be. Forget about yesteryear, it's in the past, history.

Statistics show that. Retired divorced people starving also show the facts.



I totally agree that's why if you have to get a prenup why do it at all dunno laugh
Aug 24, 2008 9:08 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
Xtabentun
XtabentunXtabentunOntario, Canada18 Threads 1,722 Posts
Yeap, I would get a prenupdunno
Aug 24, 2008 9:09 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
iamsimply
iamsimplyiamsimplyHolland Landing, Ontario Canada15 Threads 6 Polls 166 Posts
kkitty4u: nooooooooo the whole purpose of marriage is till death do you part and if you need a prenup why are you even thinking of getting married


Your profile says your divorced and the other women that said no or maybe are also probably divorced, separated or have come out of a long term relationship so I can see what you say isn't all that valid! People have great intentions and expectations when they go into a 'permanent' relationship but you yourself prove my point. Please n, no offence intended ... you seem like a wonderful person nut if you didn't want to say yes to a pre-nup than 70% of the guys in this small poll wouldn't sorm a permanent relationship with you, is that not true?
Aug 24, 2008 9:14 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
iamsimply
iamsimplyiamsimplyHolland Landing, Ontario Canada15 Threads 6 Polls 166 Posts
iamsimply: Your profile says your divorced and the other women that said no or maybe are also probably divorced, separated or have come out of a long term relationship so I can see what you say isn't all that valid! People have great intentions and expectations when they go into a 'permanent' relationship but you yourself prove my point. Please no offence intended ... you seem like a wonderful person but if you didn't want to say yes to a pre-nup than 70% of the guys in this small poll wouldn't form a permanent relationship with you, is that not true?


Sorry about the spelling errors~~~ I just had an operation on my left hand, it's still healing!
Aug 24, 2008 9:17 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Xtabentun: Yeap, I would get a prenup



Even with me.... smitten rolling on the floor laughing
Aug 24, 2008 9:17 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
kkitty4u
kkitty4ukkitty4uSt Paul, Minnesota USA24 Threads 3 Polls 1,138 Posts
iamsimply: Your profile says your divorced and the other women that said no or maybe are also probably divorced, separated or have come out of a long term relationship so I can see what you say isn't all that valid! People have great intentions and expectations when they go into a 'permanent' relationship but you yourself prove my point. Please n, no offence intended ... you seem like a wonderful person nut if you didn't want to say yes to a pre-nup than 70% of the guys in this small poll wouldn't sorm a permanent relationship with you, is that not true?


I learned my lesson grin I have been divorced for 13 yrs now and I have had a very long term relationship with another for 12 yrs and choose not to get married again and its not because I have never been asked. its because I know that nothing last 4-ever sad flower
Aug 24, 2008 9:18 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
Xtabentun
XtabentunXtabentunOntario, Canada18 Threads 1,722 Posts
Indyfella: Even with me....


Are you kidding??? roll eyes

Especially with you tongue
Aug 24, 2008 9:26 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
kkitty4u: I totally agree that's why if you have to get a prenup why do it at all



I wouldn't do it without one, but I doubt I'd ever do it in the first place. Who the hell would want to be stuck with me for life.laugh
Aug 24, 2008 9:27 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
topeshka
topeshkatopeshkaNewnan, Georgia USA4 Threads 28 Posts
I have no debt. I could care less about material things. I would have no hesitation in signing a prenup. I would WANT my partner to feel secure about his future planning.

For the right man, I would make any sacrifice! I've had that kind of love before. We were separated by death. I hope to find it twice in a lifetime...



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Aug 24, 2008 9:27 PM CST So you decided to live together or get married! Would you sign a prenup or similar contract?
Besame
BesameBesameBoston, Massachusetts USA7 Threads 1 Polls 285 Posts
mrsmiles4444: Absolutely. I feel it is a good thing to protect what you've strived to earn, or have, over your lifetime. I lost, ( voluntarily) everything, when I got divorce, only to maintain my sanity, and remove my name from anything associated with my ex, and I'll be dammed if I'll ever do that again. stupid, stupid, stupid, me.

It's the way of today. One never knows what tomrow may bring ,and how that person will act when things go wrong, ( if they go wrong). be prepaired for the unexpected I guess is reason for it. Today we love, tommorow, they want what I have. I dun think so!
they can have anything we've earned, or made for each other while together, yet what I have prior to US, is mine, what you have is yours.


I'm with you. What's mine is mine and what's ours is ours. Life and love don't always turn out the way we hoped. People are not at their best during a divorce and playing fair is not part of the process when you are angry, hurt, etc. For those of you who have never been through one, be forewarned and protect yourself.

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