I once had a boss who had this huge wonderful moustache that suited him wonderfully. He got remarried and the next thing I knew it was gone after YEARS and YEARS. What a pity. I wanted to shoot her! LOL
rwantin: Well, I suppose it would grow back, albeit grayer...
Oh well...What's a few more.
BTW... I offered to conduct a funeral for my bosses moustache. Let us know about the goatee and we can do the same someday! But please put it in your pre-nup!
kissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada15,139 posts
nomindgames: Looks like I stand alone here.No,wouldn't and if I had whatever,no wouldn't ask him to.Marriage is not what many people have made itSupposeto be till death and I agree.I don't believe in divorce unless other commits a crime to you or whoever.I think it causes self fufilling prophocey.f you can't trust the other,don't get married.If you got $,then put some away before marriage and remember you have a will too.Just protect your kids.I am not material person and won't marry 1 who is.JMO
Your not alone i agree 100% with you on this..
I wont sign one..You have to TRust one another..and if you cant do that then why marry..
kissmedeeply: Your not alone i agree 100% with you on this..
I wont sign one..You have to TRust one another..and if you cant do that then why marry..
Yep...I agree...discussing divorce and division of assets before you are even married...UMMMMMMM No thanx...If you can't trust me not to take you for all you're worth if we split..then don't bother marrying me..I say!!!!!!!!
kissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada15,139 posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: Yep...I agree...discussing divorce and division of assets before you are even married...UMMMMMMM No thanx...If you can't trust me not to take you for all you're worth if we split..then don't bother marrying me..I say!!!!!!!!
Interesting results on the poll. At lest two women and two men on this site are either illiterate or don't understand the English language.
I like the idea of a pre-nup, it takes some of the possible wondering out of the equation. If it boils down to being a trust issue, then it can be argued either way. If one isn't out for the money then signing one shouldn't be a problem.
It's a sad fact that divorce is prevalent in our society and even though most people marry with the intent on staying together until "death do us part", stat's show otherwise. I've watched a few friends get "cleaned out" over the years and even though it started out as "forever" it didn't turn out that way.
If I was 15 years younger maybe I wouldn't care, but I'm not, so I do, and I wouldn't enter into any "contract" such as marriage without protecting myself in some fashion. It would be stupid not to.
It has less to do with materialism than it does with living in a rented apartment and eating cat food in the future. I don't want that for myself, ever, so I'll do what's neccessary to try and prevent it from happening. If that includes a pre-nup, then it's a guarantee.
People don't separate or divorce under loving circumstances! They divorce because their upset, angry, frustrated, dissilusioned or some other bad reason! By this time love is gone and revenge is haded to a lawyer to doll out to the spouse. If a woman has a home, assets, pensions or whatever they can be tapped into by a man who isn't happy with her actions in the relationship and vice versa! Yes even pensions are up for grab when you retire! If a woman thinks she walks holding a bag of loot because the guy pissed her off during the relationship, she may be disappointed >>>> see my previous post and poll "Could You Marry For A Reason Other Than Money" results!
Please refrain from personal attacks and offer objective answers~~~
WhatUwish4: I believe the common practice is to increase the proportion of assets with each year of marriage (used to date a trust attorney - at least that's how he did it).
I don't think I would get into all that. I would just want some sort of simple agreement that says this is theirs no matter what. I don't worry about the sticks and bricks unless they are family heirlooms better left with them for memory sake.
That's odd, my son happened to come over yesterday and I went thru a few things that I'd like to stay in the family, including my mom's hope chest....... (to his daughter). By the time she gets it, it'll be 70 years old...
kidatheart: Interesting results on the poll. At lest two women and two men on this site are either illiterate or don't understand the English language.
I like the idea of a pre-nup, it takes some of the possible wondering out of the equation. If it boils down to being a trust issue, then it can be argued either way. If one isn't out for the money then signing one shouldn't be a problem.
It's a sad fact that divorce is prevalent in our society and even though most people marry with the intent on staying together until "death do us part", stat's show otherwise. I've watched a few friends get "cleaned out" over the years and even though it started out as "forever" it didn't turn out that way.
If I was 15 years younger maybe I wouldn't care, but I'm not, so I do, and I wouldn't enter into any "contract" such as marriage without protecting myself in some fashion. It would be stupid not to.
It has less to do with materialism than it does with living in a rented apartment and eating cat food in the future. I don't want that for myself, ever, so I'll do what's neccessary to try and prevent it from happening. If that includes a pre-nup, then it's a guarantee.
IMHO! I think you stated a fact / facts most men think about before going into a 'permanent' relationship with a woman! I feel the same way and am too old to recover financial loss. The courts don't treat guys very nice and usually side with the woman. If you think about what the poll is showing , it means a lot of guys are worried about this issue and may not enter a relation ship with a woman that says no or vice versa! Maybe a reason some people are alone today! The majority of men want it and the majority of women don't stating trust and love as factors but when the relationship ends trust and love are gone and so is someones life savings!
Pls refrain from personal attacks and answer objectively!
iamsimply: IMHO! I think you stated a fact / facts most men think about before going into a 'permanent' relationship with a woman! I feel the same way and am too old to recover financial loss. The courts don't treat guys very nice and usually side with the woman. If you think about what the poll is showing , it means a lot of guys are worried about this issue and may not enter a relation ship with a woman that says no or vice versa! Maybe a reason some people are alone today! The majority of men want it and the majority of women don't stating trust and love as factors but when the relationship ends trust and love are gone and so is someones life savings!
Pls refrain from personal attacks and answer objectively!
iamsimply: IMHO! I think you stated a fact / facts most men think about before going into a 'permanent' relationship with a woman! I feel the same way and am too old to recover financial loss. The courts don't treat guys very nice and usually side with the woman. If you think about what the poll is showing , it means a lot of guys are worried about this issue and may not enter a relation ship with a woman that says no or vice versa! Maybe a reason some people are alone today! The majority of men want it and the majority of women don't stating trust and love as factors but when the relationship ends trust and love are gone and so is someones life savings!
Pls refrain from personal attacks and answer objectively!
People change, and feelings change. The only thing I'm betting on being forever is death.
The rest is risk management and if trust if the issue, then sign to take that worry away. It's not that big of a deal to me.
I think if some women would re-think this issue and wanted to reassure a fellow that her reason for wanting to marry or live together was only for love and sharing the living expenses then more unions would be formed, according to this small poll! According to my other poll very few women indicated they would NOT marry for anything other than love ... so why not a contract?
Pls refrain from personal attack and answer objectively!
kkitty4u: nooooooooo the whole purpose of marriage is till death do you part and if you need a prenup why are you even thinking of getting married
Your profile says your divorced and the other women that said no or maybe are also probably divorced, separated or have come out of a long term relationship so I can see what you say isn't all that valid! People have great intentions and expectations when they go into a 'permanent' relationship but you yourself prove my point. Please n, no offence intended ... you seem like a wonderful person nut if you didn't want to say yes to a pre-nup than 70% of the guys in this small poll wouldn't sorm a permanent relationship with you, is that not true?
iamsimply: Your profile says your divorced and the other women that said no or maybe are also probably divorced, separated or have come out of a long term relationship so I can see what you say isn't all that valid! People have great intentions and expectations when they go into a 'permanent' relationship but you yourself prove my point. Please no offence intended ... you seem like a wonderful person but if you didn't want to say yes to a pre-nup than 70% of the guys in this small poll wouldn't form a permanent relationship with you, is that not true?
Sorry about the spelling errors~~~ I just had an operation on my left hand, it's still healing!
iamsimply: Your profile says your divorced and the other women that said no or maybe are also probably divorced, separated or have come out of a long term relationship so I can see what you say isn't all that valid! People have great intentions and expectations when they go into a 'permanent' relationship but you yourself prove my point. Please n, no offence intended ... you seem like a wonderful person nut if you didn't want to say yes to a pre-nup than 70% of the guys in this small poll wouldn't sorm a permanent relationship with you, is that not true?
I learned my lesson I have been divorced for 13 yrs now and I have had a very long term relationship with another for 12 yrs and choose not to get married again and its not because I have never been asked. its because I know that nothing last 4-ever
I have no debt. I could care less about material things. I would have no hesitation in signing a prenup. I would WANT my partner to feel secure about his future planning.
For the right man, I would make any sacrifice! I've had that kind of love before. We were separated by death. I hope to find it twice in a lifetime...
mrsmiles4444: Absolutely. I feel it is a good thing to protect what you've strived to earn, or have, over your lifetime. I lost, ( voluntarily) everything, when I got divorce, only to maintain my sanity, and remove my name from anything associated with my ex, and I'll be dammed if I'll ever do that again. stupid, stupid, stupid, me.
It's the way of today. One never knows what tomrow may bring ,and how that person will act when things go wrong, ( if they go wrong). be prepaired for the unexpected I guess is reason for it. Today we love, tommorow, they want what I have. I dun think so! they can have anything we've earned, or made for each other while together, yet what I have prior to US, is mine, what you have is yours.
I'm with you. What's mine is mine and what's ours is ours. Life and love don't always turn out the way we hoped. People are not at their best during a divorce and playing fair is not part of the process when you are angry, hurt, etc. For those of you who have never been through one, be forewarned and protect yourself.
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