Are you related to anybody famous?. If so, who?. (65)
LOL! "Lay of the wine,....layy off the wine,.....pass the wine,....pfffttt!
Bonnie Parker, of the infamous Bonnie and Clyde.
2intrigued: Genealogy, history, sating my curiosity and a sense of closure. Likely the same reasons why anybody would have an interest in their family tree.
A sense of closure...that's an interesting one.
I'm in a 'once removed' similar position to you in as much as I have three memories of one grandparent in total (and one of those was going to the hospital to collect his personal effects and asking why his bed was empty). As far as I know, there aren't any records of another grandparent's existence at all.
I can relate to closure as the unrecorded grandparent 'disappeared' and I feel there are 'loose strings' without knowing what happened to him. I imagine my grandmother didn't know whether to grieve for his death, or hope for his return. Although there's no way he could still be alive now (he'd be 126 years old if he were), there's still some sense of loss for a man who I never met.
I don't think grief was dealt with very well when I was a child. I wasn't allowed to have any emotional reaction to the one grandfather because I never knew him (what you haven't got, you never miss philosophy, although I think there was a cover up going on as well) and I wasn't allowed to grieve for my other grandfather dying in case I upset my dad.
I think spending time with our parents and grandparents gives us a sense of identity. Given the current research into genes not being quite as fixed as we once thought, the experiences of our forebears appear to be genetically encoded into us, so perhaps wanting to know about our relatives experiences is not just about romanticism - its an understanding of what is within us.
jac379: The antithesis of having famous relatives, perhaps.
Do you think it makes a difference to one,s sense of identity if one has limited information about close relatives, versus having famous ones?
Is it important for our self-identity to know where we came from and if so, why?
Do you think it makes a difference to one,s sense of identity if one has limited information about close relatives, versus having famous ones?
Is it important for our self-identity to know where we came from and if so, why?
I also have ancestry to Wales. I was about 12 or younger when my father gave me a paper that showed my coat of arms. For many years I thought one day I might meet someone related to me there but it never happened. Somewhere in the possession of one of my relatives is a disk that shows a family tree that goes very far back. I know my father almost had it and hopefully it is not gone forever. I would like to see it. Maybe we are distant cousins or something! LOL
beautifulyou: Yes, a physicist
Nice to meet you my "stellar" relative,...
jac379: A sense of closure...that's an interesting one.
I'm in a 'once removed' similar position to you in as much as I have three memories of one grandparent in total (and one of those was going to the hospital to collect his personal effects and asking why his bed was empty). As far as I know, there aren't any records of another grandparent's existence at all.
I can relate to closure as the unrecorded grandparent 'disappeared' and I feel there are 'loose strings' without knowing what happened to him. I imagine my grandmother didn't know whether to grieve for his death, or hope for his return. Although there's no way he could still be alive now (he'd be 126 years old if he were), there's still some sense of loss for a man who I never met.
I don't think grief was dealt with very well when I was a child. I wasn't allowed to have any emotional reaction to the one grandfather because I never knew him (what you haven't got, you never miss philosophy, although I think there was a cover up going on as well) and I wasn't allowed to grieve for my other grandfather dying in case I upset my dad.
I think spending time with our parents and grandparents gives us a sense of identity. Given the current research into genes not being quite as fixed as we once thought, the experiences of our forebears appear to be genetically encoded into us, so perhaps wanting to know about our relatives experiences is not just about romanticism - its an understanding of what is within us.
I'm in a 'once removed' similar position to you in as much as I have three memories of one grandparent in total (and one of those was going to the hospital to collect his personal effects and asking why his bed was empty). As far as I know, there aren't any records of another grandparent's existence at all.
I can relate to closure as the unrecorded grandparent 'disappeared' and I feel there are 'loose strings' without knowing what happened to him. I imagine my grandmother didn't know whether to grieve for his death, or hope for his return. Although there's no way he could still be alive now (he'd be 126 years old if he were), there's still some sense of loss for a man who I never met.
I don't think grief was dealt with very well when I was a child. I wasn't allowed to have any emotional reaction to the one grandfather because I never knew him (what you haven't got, you never miss philosophy, although I think there was a cover up going on as well) and I wasn't allowed to grieve for my other grandfather dying in case I upset my dad.
I think spending time with our parents and grandparents gives us a sense of identity. Given the current research into genes not being quite as fixed as we once thought, the experiences of our forebears appear to be genetically encoded into us, so perhaps wanting to know about our relatives experiences is not just about romanticism - its an understanding of what is within us.
The "loose strings" are the ones we seek to untangle I'm thinking. Your story touches a soft spot in me but I have many of those.
I think everyone has a need to discover their heritage and the people who made us who we are today. It then becomes a true understanding of self.
2intrigued: The "loose strings" are the ones we seek to untangle I'm thinking. Your story touches a soft spot in me but I have many of those.
I think everyone has a need to discover their heritage and the people who made us who we are today. It then becomes a true understanding of self.
I think everyone has a need to discover their heritage and the people who made us who we are today. It then becomes a true understanding of self.
Yeah, I think its to do with understanding the self.
That then begs the question, what self-understanding does it bring to us if we have a famous relative? Or are we just boosting self-esteem off the back of someone else's popularity, or power, like dim-witted henchmen?
jac379: Yeah, I think its to do with understanding the self.
That then begs the question, what self-understanding does it bring to us if we have a famous relative? Or are we just boosting self-esteem off the back of someone else's popularity, or power, like dim-witted henchmen?
That then begs the question, what self-understanding does it bring to us if we have a famous relative? Or are we just boosting self-esteem off the back of someone else's popularity, or power, like dim-witted henchmen?
I'd be content just understanding myself let alone who might have been famous.
I suppose for some people, there is a sense of pride in knowing they may have come from royalty or some such. 2intrigued: Hiya Jac I'm not too concerned about whether I'm related to someone famous or not but I sure would like to know more about my ancestry so with limited information, it's not easy to figure out. I'd like to know more out of curiosity than anything else. To me, there's something comforting knowing more about my background. I do know the last names and one of the names originated in Wales...I'm intrigued.
Trigs, you can get all that information on Ancestry . com.
My daughter did her husband's family tree dating all the way back to when they came to Ellis Island and she was able to get the paperwork for that trip.
Now that you're not working you have the time to dedicate to such a project.
I agree with you that it's important to know your background.
Give it a try on Ancestry......it's free.
montemonte: Trigs, you can get all that information on Ancestry . com.
My daughter did her husband's family tree dating all the way back to when they came to Ellis Island and she was able to get the paperwork for that trip.
Now that you're not working you have the time to dedicate to such a project.
I agree with you that it's important to know your background.
Give it a try on Ancestry......it's free.
My daughter did her husband's family tree dating all the way back to when they came to Ellis Island and she was able to get the paperwork for that trip.
Now that you're not working you have the time to dedicate to such a project.
I agree with you that it's important to know your background.
Give it a try on Ancestry......it's free.
Hiya Monts
Yep, I went to the ancestry site, plugged in the wee bit of info I do have and it seems you have to pay to get any important info. But from what I could tell, not much info came up on the site due to the limited amount of info I had. 
2intrigued: Hiya Monts Yep, I went to the ancestry site, plugged in the wee bit of info I do have and it seems you have to pay to get any important info. But from what I could tell, not much info came up on the site due to the limited amount of info I had.
My daughter didn't have to pay anything. I if you know how to get around the site you can get under the layers of info.
Just plug into Google "my ancestry" and other sites will come up that you might like.
montemonte: My daughter didn't have to pay anything. I if you know how to get around the site you can get under the layers of info.
Just plug into Google "my ancestry" and other sites will come up that you might like.
Just plug into Google "my ancestry" and other sites will come up that you might like.
I know there are times when the site comes up with offers to do free searches so I'll keep a watch out for it and do a little more digging around.
Yeap! My dad was Tarzan, and mom Tarzana, like a pain in the aass.
2intrigued: I'd be content just understanding myself let alone who might have been famous. I suppose for some people, there is a sense of pride in knowing they may have come from royalty or some such.
Yes, there's sense of pride in being descendant of nobility, or someone with major creative influence, but mine is tempered with also being related to someone of less high class fame. Its like one social class extreme to the other.
Beyond the pride, there also lies a sense of being able to create a picture of why there are certain family traits. In other words, its part of my culture and my culture is part of my identity.
jac379: Yes, there's sense of pride in being descendant of nobility, or someone with major creative influence, but mine is tempered with also being related to someone of less high class fame. Its like one social class extreme to the other.
Beyond the pride, there also lies a sense of being able to create a picture of why there are certain family traits. In other words, its part of my culture and my culture is part of my identity.
Beyond the pride, there also lies a sense of being able to create a picture of why there are certain family traits. In other words, its part of my culture and my culture is part of my identity.
You are 100% correct on this.
Waterbearer63: I was asked if I was related to Spock from Star Trek which prompted the idea to see if anyone out there has any famous relatives.So how about it?. Do you have a famous relative and if you do, who?.
My great-grandfather, times eighteen or so, in his day, pissed off the pope so much that he was put under house-arrest for 'suspicion' of heresy until he died. His body parts are still on display in a museum in Florence, Italy. B.F.D. but, may he Rest In Peace (or Pieces).
A_Non_A_Moose: Do not lose any sleep over it! I am destined fot an eternity in hell as fortold by many,...but I truly believe and marvel at the conecpt, as I lay on my back on the ground gazing up into the starry night, that the atoms in my body were created within a stellar explosion eons ago,...and coallesced via gravity. Hydrogen was rampant and all-prevalent in the early universe, but, as gravity created fusion,...all other elements up to iron were created (including the sulfur that bonded with the hydrogen,...to create the flatulence I use to repel the mosqiotoes),...and the heavier elements were formed with the titanic explosions of massive stars collapsing under their own mass. To me,....every time I look into the night sky I realize that we are ALL related!
Then again,...maybe I should lay of the wine,....
Then again,...maybe I should lay of the wine,....
"Destined for an eternity in hell".Why am I not surprised by that?.Enjoy your stay and save me a seat.
galrads: My great-grandfather, times eighteen or so, in his day, pissed off the pope so much that he was put under house-arrest for 'suspicion' of heresy until he died. His body parts are still on display in a museum in Florence, Italy. B.F.D. but, may he Rest In Peace (or Pieces).
You remind me... one of my Danish relatives used to help people get out of Germany ("underground tunnels") and when he learned that the SS were on to him and he told his wife he had to go hide for awhile, she refused to let him leave
... they found him and killed him. Reportedly the family directly related apparently has never come back together over that. The Danes were pretty mad at her.Waterbearer63: I was asked if I was related to Spock from Star Trek which prompted the idea to see if anyone out there has any famous relatives.So how about it?. Do you have a famous relative and if you do, who?.
yes Charlie Sifford first black man to win regular PGA Tour and Ricky Henderson in pro baseball.
I've been told by other family members that I am but I haven't been able to prove it.
santa
Yes, but not by blood. By marriage.....
My ex-husband's late father's second ex-wife's first ex-husband was the Duchess of York's father's vet.
My ex-husband's late father's second ex-wife's first ex-husband was the Duchess of York's father's vet.
Waterbearer63: Do you have a famous relative and if you do, who?.
Yeah. A few. One in particular.. Revered and despised by some, loved by others he is/was. Nobut, Jessica Rabbit is my cartoon alter-ego 
Yes to a well known band leader from the 40s and 50s.
22W00: No famous relatives, but Jimmy Ruffin asked me out when I was 19 - does that count?
WOW, that does count!
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Then again,...maybe I should lay of the wine,....