Can being Obese be in the family genes ? ( READ BELOW ) (69)
In my family (on my mother's side) everybody gets fat in a very particular sort of way as they age.
They can be thin all their lives but when they hit 50 or so their bellies start to grow disproportionately big.
It's clearly a family trait and doesn't seem to be tied to overeating.
They can be thin all their lives but when they hit 50 or so their bellies start to grow disproportionately big.
It's clearly a family trait and doesn't seem to be tied to overeating.
MrRick77: Can being Obese be in the family genes ? Or is it strictly about eating too much.
think the result of obese is caused by over eating and lack of exercise...some will be more heavier than others due to genetics but not obese.
Tormented: think the result of obese is caused by over eating and lack of exercise...some will be more heavier than others due to genetics but not obese.
It's easy for people who do not have a problem with weight to judge those who do. While it is true that often good nutrition and exercise are a key to keeping fit, for many it doesn't work because they have any one of a number of medical problems that cause the weight. Look up hypothyroidism, hyperthyroidism, anti-inflammatory steroid prescriptions. There are people out there who do everything "right", and still cannot have a BayWatch body. Our job, as healthier individuals, is to NOT judge. You never know what is going on with someone else, so be kind, understanding, and thoughtful. It won't hurt you, for crying out loud.
rohaan: It's easy for people who do not have a problem with weight to judge those who do. While it is true that often good nutrition and exercise are a key to keeping fit, for many it doesn't work because they have any one of a number of medical problems that cause the weight. Look up hypothyroidism, hyperthyroidism, anti-inflammatory steroid prescriptions. There are people out there who do everything "right", and still cannot have a BayWatch body. Our job, as healthier individuals, is to NOT judge. You never know what is going on with someone else, so be kind, understanding, and thoughtful. It won't hurt you, for crying out loud.
Look Rohan, fair point. I don't think people do judge for MEDICAL reasons. There is no point really speaking about medical conditions beyond the caveat. And the reason is for things like this:I think we're allowed to assume non medical problems for massive surge in obesity, considering that in the 1990's being obese was very rare in this country.
"Although the data are not fully comparable, there are indications that obesity rates have increased by 40pc in Ireland in the last 10 years and there is no reason to think that growth will slow down in the near future."
sofarsogood74: I think an under active thyroid can make it hard to lose weight and that can cause some people to be overweight. But that is not genes. That is medical. The problem is lots of overweight people are now blaming their genes or thyroid without even thinking. It's such a cop out.
My sister was overweight and asked for my help. I called in 5 nights a week and we went running and to the gym. She also started eating better. She lost 5 stone(70 pounds) in about 2 years and she is still a normal weight now.
My sister was overweight and asked for my help. I called in 5 nights a week and we went running and to the gym. She also started eating better. She lost 5 stone(70 pounds) in about 2 years and she is still a normal weight now.
So how do you account for the genetic link with hypothyroidism?
My daughter has always been very petite and full grown is still under 5 foot tall. Over the years she's been skinny, ripped and now slim. Man, could she pack some food away, it was phenomenal. Like we'd go grocery shopping and I'd buy a box of 4 cream buns that she'd scoff while I was going through the cashout, we'd walk home and the moment we got through the door she'd be asking what was for tea. She could pack away all the healthy foods and all the junk.
My granddaughter is going to be a 6 footer, I reckon. She's very tall now at the age of two and a half, some of her clothes being age 4-5. She's slim, is more active than my daughter was at that age, but eats like a sparrow. She started a new nursery a couple of months ago and they were worried about how little she was eating. She was packing it away by her normal standards, her mother and I were really pleased.
Each of them has a build and eating habit like their fathers.
If this isn't governed by genetic differences, can you explain what's going on, please?
Tormented: think the result of obese is caused by over eating and lack of exercise...some will be more heavier than others due to genetics but not obese.
The AMA has just labeled it a disease..Along w/ pregnancy and drunkeness..
Not their fault..Hope I don't get it..
MrRick77: Can being Obese be in YOUR genes ?
"Although there are genetic and hormonal influences on body weight,
obesity occurs when you take in more calories than you burn
through exercise and normal daily activities. Your body stores these excess calories as fat. Obesity usually results from a combination of causes and contributing factors, including:
Inactivity. If you're not very active, you don't burn as many calories. With a sedentary lifestyle, you can easily take in more calories every day than you use through exercise and normal daily activities.
Unhealthy diet and eating habits. Having a diet that's high in calories, eating fast food, skipping breakfast, eating most of your calories at night, drinking high-calorie beverages and eating oversized portions all contribute to weight gain.
........
Lack of sleep. Getting less than seven hours of sleep a night can cause changes in hormones that increase your appetite. You may also crave foods high in calories and carbohydrates, which can contribute to weight gain.
Certain medications.
Medical problems. Obesity can sometimes be traced to a medical cause, such as Prader-Willi syndrome, Cushing's syndrome, polycystic ovary syndrome, and other diseases and conditions. Some medical problems, such as arthritis, can lead to decreased activity, which may result in weight gain.
A low metabolism is unlikely to cause obesity, as is having low thyroid function.
"
excuse me kind sir...i was not judging,i was simply making the point that i don't believe it to be genetic condition...read again
rohaan: It's easy for people who do not have a problem with weight to judge those who do. While it is true that often good nutrition and exercise are a key to keeping fit, for many it doesn't work because they have any one of a number of medical problems that cause the weight. Look up hypothyroidism, hyperthyroidism, anti-inflammatory steroid prescriptions. There are people out there who do everything "right", and still cannot have a BayWatch body. Our job, as healthier individuals, is to NOT judge. You never know what is going on with someone else, so be kind, understanding, and thoughtful. It won't hurt you, for crying out loud.
there's the explanation...there was nothing judgemental about my earlier comment!!!
lifeisadream: "Although there are genetic and hormonal influences on body weight,
obesity occurs when you take in more calories than you burn
through exercise and normal daily activities. Your body stores these excess calories as fat. Obesity usually results from a combination of causes and contributing factors, including: Inactivity. If you're not very active, you don't burn as many calories. With a sedentary lifestyle, you can easily take in more calories every day than you use through exercise and normal daily activities.
Unhealthy diet and eating habits. Having a diet that's high in calories, eating fast food, skipping breakfast, eating most of your calories at night, drinking high-calorie beverages and eating oversized portions all contribute to weight gain.
........
Lack of sleep. Getting less than seven hours of sleep a night can cause changes in hormones that increase your appetite. You may also crave foods high in calories and carbohydrates, which can contribute to weight gain.
Certain medications.
Medical problems. Obesity can sometimes be traced to a medical cause, such as Prader-Willi syndrome, Cushing's syndrome, polycystic ovary syndrome, and other diseases and conditions. Some medical problems, such as arthritis, can lead to decreased activity, which may result in weight gain.
A low metabolism is unlikely to cause obesity, as is having low thyroid function.
"
obesity occurs when you take in more calories than you burn
through exercise and normal daily activities. Your body stores these excess calories as fat. Obesity usually results from a combination of causes and contributing factors, including: Inactivity. If you're not very active, you don't burn as many calories. With a sedentary lifestyle, you can easily take in more calories every day than you use through exercise and normal daily activities.
Unhealthy diet and eating habits. Having a diet that's high in calories, eating fast food, skipping breakfast, eating most of your calories at night, drinking high-calorie beverages and eating oversized portions all contribute to weight gain.
........
Lack of sleep. Getting less than seven hours of sleep a night can cause changes in hormones that increase your appetite. You may also crave foods high in calories and carbohydrates, which can contribute to weight gain.
Certain medications.
Medical problems. Obesity can sometimes be traced to a medical cause, such as Prader-Willi syndrome, Cushing's syndrome, polycystic ovary syndrome, and other diseases and conditions. Some medical problems, such as arthritis, can lead to decreased activity, which may result in weight gain.
A low metabolism is unlikely to cause obesity, as is having low thyroid function.
"
jac379: Each of them has a build and eating habit like their fathers.
If this isn't governed by genetic differences, can you explain what's going on, please?
If this isn't governed by genetic differences, can you explain what's going on, please?
I can explain very easy. If someone takes in more calories than they burn they get fat. If they take in less than they burn they lose weight. That is a fact and no matter what genes you have that will happen.
If you daughter and grand daughter are eating a lot but are still skinny then they are burning those calories and are active.
But in my experience when I am told by skinny people they eat huge amounts or by the family of skinny people they eat huge amounts it is untrue. When they do a food diary they are actually eating less than they should be and that is why they are so skinny.
I think it depends on how you were "taught to eat" If a parent eats unhealthily, chances are the child will too... When people see overweight children with overweight parents they assume it's in the genes, it's not... Anyone can lose weight if they put their mind to it 
MrRick77: Can being Obese be in the family genes ? Or is it strictly about eating too much.
it is because of MAC fast food lack of water, toomuch CNN, etc
Very difficult these days to have any sort of intelligent conversation about obesity ... there's so much emotion attached to it that rationality gets left behind.
Certain peoples (races)may APPEAR to have a genetic predisposition to obesity BUT if you stop and look properly y'll see that it's generally amongst people (races) who have been transplanted from their country of origin, original 'healthy diet' and who are suffering on the over processed, highly synthetic sugar fat n salt laden pulp that serves for food in the industrial west.
But it's even catching up with 'white populations' and the level of chemicalisation of food is playing havoc with the hormone systems.
Hard to claim it's genetic when you have 'new generations' coming through from 'old stock' who werent obese.
Something has changed ... it's the crap we buy as 'food' and it's killing us !
Certain peoples (races)may APPEAR to have a genetic predisposition to obesity BUT if you stop and look properly y'll see that it's generally amongst people (races) who have been transplanted from their country of origin, original 'healthy diet' and who are suffering on the over processed, highly synthetic sugar fat n salt laden pulp that serves for food in the industrial west.
But it's even catching up with 'white populations' and the level of chemicalisation of food is playing havoc with the hormone systems.
Hard to claim it's genetic when you have 'new generations' coming through from 'old stock' who werent obese.
Something has changed ... it's the crap we buy as 'food' and it's killing us !
utuber: The AMA has just labeled it a disease..Along w/ pregnancy and drunkeness..
Not their fault..Hope I don't get it..
Not their fault..Hope I don't get it..
This is really sick, they(excluding pregnancy)cost the tax payer enormous amount of money and the end result is just grotesque.
Just seen this:
KremaP: This is really sick, they(excluding pregnancy)cost the tax payer enormous amount of money and the end result is just grotesque.
Just seen this:
Just seen this:
First of all it's the daily Mail. The most right wing newspaper in the UK.
And secondly what did you want to happen after the accident? Leave the man trapped in the car cause he is overweight? Or maybe make it illegal for overweight people top drive?
I am surprised that no goverment has put a tax on "being overwieght"!
No doubt they are thinking about it
No doubt they are thinking about it
rebel2: I am surprised that no goverment has put a tax on "being overwieght"!
No doubt they are thinking about it
No doubt they are thinking about it
Don't worry it will happen one day.
They tax everything else.sofarsogood74: First of all it's the daily Mail. The most right wing newspaper in the UK.
And secondly what did you want to happen after the accident? Leave the man trapped in the car cause he is overweight? Or maybe make it illegal for overweight people top drive?
And secondly what did you want to happen after the accident? Leave the man trapped in the car cause he is overweight? Or maybe make it illegal for overweight people top drive?
Thanks for telling me what I read every day...
And what I mean by posting this is that the obese people cost more than a normal weighted person. The obese people and the alcoholics are on DISABILITY benefits in UK.
KremaP: Thanks for telling me what I read every day...
And what I mean by posting this is that the obese people cost more than a normal weighted person. The obese people and the alcoholics are on DISABILITY benefits in UK.
And what I mean by posting this is that the obese people cost more than a normal weighted person. The obese people and the alcoholics are on DISABILITY benefits in UK.
So what? Smokers cost more than people who don't smoke. People who don't keep fit cost more than people who keep fit. People with diabetes, epilepsy or have special needs cost more than people who dont have those problems.
I don't see your point!
sofarsogood74: So what? Smokers cost more than people who don't smoke. People who don't keep fit cost more than people who keep fit. People with diabetes, epilepsy or have special needs cost more than people who dont have those problems.
I don't see your point!
I don't see your point!
Probably about 70% of the cigarette price is a tax, so the smokers pay a huge price to the government for their habit. And after all we speak about people who can't keep their hand off the fridge. Not people with medical problems.
KremaP: Probably about 70% of the cigarette price is a tax, so the smokers pay a huge price to the government for their habit. And after all we speak about people who can't keep their hand off the fridge. Not people with medical problems.
Everyone knows smokers cost the state far more than is taken in tax from tobacco. But you're a smoker so I would expect you to come out with a BS statement like that. Food is taxed too you know.
The thing is you came on here giving out about people who can't hep themselves eating. But you can't stop smoking so who are you to judge them?
Hypocrite is a word I would use.
sofarsogood74: Everyone knows smokers cost the state far more than is taken in tax from tobacco. But you're a smoker so I would expect you to come out with a BS statement like that. Food is taxed too you know.
The thing is you came on here giving out about people who can't hep themselves eating. But you can't stop smoking so who are you to judge them?
Hypocrite is a word I would use.
The thing is you came on here giving out about people who can't hep themselves eating. But you can't stop smoking so who are you to judge them?
Hypocrite is a word I would use.
You didn't even bother reading properly my profile, as I explain I am not a smoker, but if you had a cigarette long, long time ago can not say you NEVER been a smoker, just being fair.
PS The smokers do not get disability benefits...
KremaP: You didn't even bother reading properly my profile, as I explain I am not a smoker, but if you had a cigarette long, long time ago can not say you NEVER been a smoker, just being fair.
The damage is done if you smoked for many years. Your chances of many diseases is increased greatly. That is a fact and smoking costs the health service of the country huge money. And people who are ill through smoking get welfare payments too!
So if you are going to blame people who have a problem with their eating for the money they cost the health service then you also have to blame smokers!
Only a hypocrite wouldn't!
Oh, you diagnosed me already and how on earth you know how long I smoked?! I do blame everyone who damaged his health and expects someone else to pay for it...
the medical "Expertise" in this Thread is astounding!
KremaP: Oh, you diagnosed me already and how on earth you know how long I smoked?! I do blame everyone who damaged his health and expects someone else to pay for it...
But you dont! You already made excuses for smokers saying tobacco is taxed without mentioning food is taxed too.
And you seem to think addiction to food is just people who can't keep their hand off the fridge but addiction to tobacco is something different.
Every argument you use against overweight people I can use against smokers!
When we pay tax it is to society and I for one don't want to live in a society were we punish people for addictions they may have. We allow drink companies, tobacco companies and fast food companies to sponsor sports events, advertise all over the TV, radio and media but when people become addicted to their product you think they should be punished?
Well except smoking, you think that is OKConrad73: the medical "Expertise" in this Thread is astounding!
A bit like your astounding "Expertise" in most subjects on the international threads.
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