Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel. (264)
It is interesting to see the responses of the women on CS, and some men - all anti-Israel. They do claim to abhor the practices in the muslim countries, but they abhor a country defending herself more. Like someone here said - look at the facts:
- Israel is the only democracy in that region
- Israel is a tiny "speck" in the surrounding Arab world
- Israel has the right to exist, and the right to defend herself.
- it seems the anti-semitism is still very much alive in the West, if it was not, then the facts would be seen for what they are, not through the glasses of the Palestinians/Arabs who do everything to not make peace with Israel.
- Israel is the only democracy in that region
- Israel is a tiny "speck" in the surrounding Arab world
- Israel has the right to exist, and the right to defend herself.
- it seems the anti-semitism is still very much alive in the West, if it was not, then the facts would be seen for what they are, not through the glasses of the Palestinians/Arabs who do everything to not make peace with Israel.
rizlared: Like many, you only listen to one side of a very big and multifaceted story.
It might be useful to look into the history of the Jewish people, you may find that their roots are somewhat similar to those of todays Arabs.
Why do you think Jerusalem is so important to Judaism?
Also remember that Judaism started almost 2000 years before Christianity, in the regions which are known today as Syria/Palestine. This is a proven fact and cannot be disputed. The ownership of those lands, however, has been many and confused, which is why we still have the problem today.
It might be useful to look into the history of the Jewish people, you may find that their roots are somewhat similar to those of todays Arabs.
Why do you think Jerusalem is so important to Judaism?
Also remember that Judaism started almost 2000 years before Christianity, in the regions which are known today as Syria/Palestine. This is a proven fact and cannot be disputed. The ownership of those lands, however, has been many and confused, which is why we still have the problem today.
What is well known is this.
The Jews despersed and left their forefathers land.
In i935 were a handfull of Jews and millions of Arabs in the area.
Just because some British jews vowed to restore and after the end of the war2 succeeded,
it doesn't mean the Arabs have to accept that their land of over 2000 years has to be handed over to
the jews???
Ask the Arabs,how they feel thrown out of their forefathers land,to make room for the Jews.
As you say the ownership of those lands,has been many and confused.
For sure not by the jews the last 2000 years,by the Arabs yes,and there is no doupt about it.
From those Arabs,Israel claimed this land,handed over by the UN, which in my opinion had no right, to do such a thing,giving land back to those who had abandoned their land 2000 years before.-
chris27292729: What is well known is this.
The Jews despersed and left their forefathers land.
In i935 were a handfull of Jews and millions of Arabs in the area.
Just because some British jews vowed to restore and after the end of the war2 succeeded,
it doesn't mean the Arabs have to accept that their land of over 2000 years has to be handed over to
the jews???
Ask the Arabs,how they feel thrown out of their forefathers land,to make room for the Jews.
As you say the ownership of those lands,has been many and confused.
For sure not by the jews the last 2000 years,by the Arabs yes,and there is no doupt about it.
From those Arabs,Israel claimed this land,handed over by the UN, which in my opinion had no right, to do such a thing,giving land back to those who had abandoned their land 2000 years before.-
The Jews despersed and left their forefathers land.
In i935 were a handfull of Jews and millions of Arabs in the area.
Just because some British jews vowed to restore and after the end of the war2 succeeded,
it doesn't mean the Arabs have to accept that their land of over 2000 years has to be handed over to
the jews???
Ask the Arabs,how they feel thrown out of their forefathers land,to make room for the Jews.
As you say the ownership of those lands,has been many and confused.
For sure not by the jews the last 2000 years,by the Arabs yes,and there is no doupt about it.
From those Arabs,Israel claimed this land,handed over by the UN, which in my opinion had no right, to do such a thing,giving land back to those who had abandoned their land 2000 years before.-
Oh dear, so your argument for the UK to return the Marbles has just crashed Chris, because if you use your argument for their return, as they once belonged to Greece and now you want them returned, it is exactly what the Israelis are saying and you disagree.
So which is it? Let the Israelis live in the land that was theirs in the first place and have a claim on the Marbles, or the opposite?
rizlared: Oh dear, so your argument for the UK to return the Marbles has just crashed Chris, because if you use your argument for their return, as they once belonged to Greece and now you want them returned, it is exactly what the Israelis are saying and you disagree.
So which is it? Let the Israelis live in the land that was theirs in the first place and have a claim on the Marbles, or the opposite?
So which is it? Let the Israelis live in the land that was theirs in the first place and have a claim on the Marbles, or the opposite?
The Parthenon sculptures were created more than 2000 years ago and were stolen.
The land the Jews claimed back in 1947,it wasn't stolen, IT WAS ABANDONED as the Jews then
immigrated for greener pastures.-
PS ,How many centuries ago you estimate ""the land that was theirs in the first place."".????
It is first in History abandon land by its inhabitands, to be regained 2000 years after....
chris27292729: The Parthenon sculptures were created more than 2000 years ago and were stolen.
The land the Jews claimed back in 1947,it wasn't stolen, IT WAS ABANDONED as the Jews then
immigrated for greener pastures.-
PS ,How many centuries ago you estimate ""the land that was theirs in the first place."".????
It is first in History abandon land by its inhabitands, to be regained 2000 years after....
The land the Jews claimed back in 1947,it wasn't stolen, IT WAS ABANDONED as the Jews then
immigrated for greener pastures.-
PS ,How many centuries ago you estimate ""the land that was theirs in the first place."".????
It is first in History abandon land by its inhabitands, to be regained 2000 years after....
Age/time are not relevant, either things previously owned should be returned or not. Yes or No Chris
However, the Marbles were paid for, not stolen, while the jews were pushed out of their lands by who had built up a hatred for them. They never abndoned their holy lands, and have continuously worshipped there since 1500BC.
Always best to adhere to history, rather than media gossip and negative agendas.
Capricorn143: Whose interests have been in Obama and Clinton's game? Not the common good USA interests for sure.[/quote
Whose interests have been of the Bushes?
Obama may be the worst American president, which would not be of our concern if he hadn't affected the whole world by his lack of leadership. His dilly-dallying in the ME and elsewhere, has only empowered the radical forces in those regions and create chaos everywhere.
We do know what Clinton would do if she had been elected and that is much scarier, so what Putin and Trump do may be to our benefit not detriment. ("our" meaning the western civilization)
Whose interests have been of the Bushes?
Obama may be the worst American president, which would not be of our concern if he hadn't affected the whole world by his lack of leadership. His dilly-dallying in the ME and elsewhere, has only empowered the radical forces in those regions and create chaos everywhere.
We do know what Clinton would do if she had been elected and that is much scarier, so what Putin and Trump do may be to our benefit not detriment. ("our" meaning the western civilization)
"so what hat Putin and Trump do may be to our benefit not detriment. ("our" meaning the western civilization)"
You will have a good chance to experience Putin actions since you are in eastern Europe and for the "western civilization" you are missing a good part of the whole earth.
Had Hillary been the worst president ever? perhaps, yet she has the benefit of the doubt because she is not going to be president.
Which parameters are you using to infer that Obama might be the worst president?
And how are you comparing him with other presidents both R and D?
That goes all the way back to The Bible , so Yes You have to Stand with Israel .
Draegoneer:
U.S. Independence.
From who and/or from what?
A working economy,
that is difficult because your economy is based in speculation
less meddling in world affairs,
that would be great but with Trump I do not think it will happen.
Without Trump being President, he has already interfere in several foreign matters.
"One president at the time"
support of our allies,
which allies?
improved educational system,
definitely and how would it be improved?
and better security for the nation.
having all the inteligencia and the spending of trillions in defense I do not see why not have a closed country.
There's more with a lot more detail. We had it as a larger part in the past. It can go even further. It's late and I have to work later so please accept the summarized version with a strong idea of the troubles to come summarized in the sentences below. Take care Dream.
What some people neglect to realize, is that he's going to have to deal with a lot of "politics" riddled with many back stabbers still loyal to lobbyists, banks, corporations, and more. A questionable population that hasn't figured out we're not the center or able to supply full financial support for the entire planet doesn't help either. I don't see much of it falling into line very easily at all at this time.
U.S. Independence.
From who and/or from what?
A working economy,
that is difficult because your economy is based in speculation
less meddling in world affairs,
that would be great but with Trump I do not think it will happen.
Without Trump being President, he has already interfere in several foreign matters.
"One president at the time"
support of our allies,
which allies?
improved educational system,
definitely and how would it be improved?
and better security for the nation.
having all the inteligencia and the spending of trillions in defense I do not see why not have a closed country.
There's more with a lot more detail. We had it as a larger part in the past. It can go even further. It's late and I have to work later so please accept the summarized version with a strong idea of the troubles to come summarized in the sentences below. Take care Dream.
What some people neglect to realize, is that he's going to have to deal with a lot of "politics" riddled with many back stabbers still loyal to lobbyists, banks, corporations, and more. A questionable population that hasn't figured out we're not the center or able to supply full financial support for the entire planet doesn't help either. I don't see much of it falling into line very easily at all at this time.
lifeisadream: "so what hat Putin and Trump do may be to our benefit not detriment. ("our" meaning the western civilization)"
You will have a good chance to experience Putin actions since you are in eastern Europe and for the "western civilization" you are missing a good part of the whole earth.
Had Hillary been the worst president ever? perhaps, yet she has the benefit of the doubt because she is not going to be president.
Which parameters are you using to infer that Obama might be the worst president?
And how are you comparing him with other presidents both R and D?
You will have a good chance to experience Putin actions since you are in eastern Europe and for the "western civilization" you are missing a good part of the whole earth.
Had Hillary been the worst president ever? perhaps, yet she has the benefit of the doubt because she is not going to be president.
Which parameters are you using to infer that Obama might be the worst president?
And how are you comparing him with other presidents both R and D?
I did say: may be, as it is yet about to be seen, contrary to what the mainstream media and Hillary supports keep on claiming.
As for Putin - again, life you need to work on your history of this part of the world. The term "western civilization" is used as an opposite to oriental and refers to a large part of the world - Europe (Russia included), US, Australia. I am concerned about this part of the world firstly because I and all of my family live here, secondly, it is the most developed part of the world, so succumbing to a completely different oriental culture (or lack of ot) would mean a huge step backwards for the whole world.
"Had Hillary been the worst president?" Hm, she has never been president, so I do not understand that sentence of your. If you were actually thinking of saying: would hillary be.... - she made it very clear what she would do, but you are right, we will never know.
Now about Obama - the parameter I was using was his disastrous foreign policy or better lack of any - the fact that put the world in chaos. And even know 5 mins before he ceases to be president, he still wants to incite as much conflict as possible with Russia.
I do know that when it comes to Russia, you stop thinking clearly, which you have shown multiple times by saying things as if you were one of those hard core conservatives in the US, you know during those purges of the communists or during the Cold war era. And it is funny to see that someone from Mexico has been fed such ideology and just does not want to admit that the world has changed, that the Soviet union does not exist anymore, that Russia is not the SU.
rizlared: Age/time are not relevant, either things previously owned should be returned or not. Yes or No Chris
However, the Marbles were paid for, not stolen, while the jews were pushed out of their lands by who had built up a hatred for them. They never abndoned their holy lands, and have continuously worshipped there since 1500BC.
Always best to adhere to history, rather than media gossip and negative agendas.
However, the Marbles were paid for, not stolen, while the jews were pushed out of their lands by who had built up a hatred for them. They never abndoned their holy lands, and have continuously worshipped there since 1500BC.
Always best to adhere to history, rather than media gossip and negative agendas.
Parthenon sculptures to you..Marbles for the uneducated.Thats how the British seen them,as marbles.
Abandoned is one thing and worshipping, something else for the devout believers.
We do have,and always had Greek Orthodox going to the "holy land" to pray. Doesn't mean
the devout going there "own the holy land as well" does it.
Once that part of Palestine belonged to Greece,does it means we have to claim it as part of Greece???
The jews abandoned their land,and for 2 mileniums,it was part of the conquers.and under the
Ottomans the majority were Arabs and the jews the vast minority. Read any history book of that time.
The gainers are the new Jewish settlers and the loosers the Palestinians inhabitands..
Capricorn143: I did say: may be, as it is yet about to be seen, contrary to what the mainstream media and Hillary supports keep on claiming.
As for Putin - again, life you need to work on your history of this part of the world. The term "western civilization" is used as an opposite to oriental and refers to a large part of the world - Europe (Russia included), US, Australia. I am concerned about this part of the world firstly because I and all of my family live here, secondly, it is the most developed part of the world, so succumbing to a completely different oriental culture (or lack of ot) would mean a huge step backwards for the whole world.
"Had Hillary been the worst president?" Hm, she has never been president, so I do not understand that sentence of your. If you were actually thinking of saying: would hillary be.... - she made it very clear what she would do, but you are right, we will never know.
Now about Obama - the parameter I was using was his disastrous foreign policy or better lack of any - the fact that put the world in chaos. And even know 5 mins before he ceases to be president, he still wants to incite as much conflict as possible with Russia.
I do know that when it comes to Russia, you stop thinking clearly, which you have shown multiple times by saying things as if you were one of those hard core conservatives in the US, you know during those purges of the communists or during the Cold war era.
And it is funny to see that someone from Mexico has been fed such ideology
and just does not want to admit that the world has changed, that the Soviet union does not exist anymore, that Russia is not the SU.
As for Putin - again, life you need to work on your history of this part of the world. The term "western civilization" is used as an opposite to oriental and refers to a large part of the world - Europe (Russia included), US, Australia. I am concerned about this part of the world firstly because I and all of my family live here, secondly, it is the most developed part of the world, so succumbing to a completely different oriental culture (or lack of ot) would mean a huge step backwards for the whole world.
"Had Hillary been the worst president?" Hm, she has never been president, so I do not understand that sentence of your. If you were actually thinking of saying: would hillary be.... - she made it very clear what she would do, but you are right, we will never know.
Now about Obama - the parameter I was using was his disastrous foreign policy or better lack of any - the fact that put the world in chaos. And even know 5 mins before he ceases to be president, he still wants to incite as much conflict as possible with Russia.
I do know that when it comes to Russia, you stop thinking clearly, which you have shown multiple times by saying things as if you were one of those hard core conservatives in the US, you know during those purges of the communists or during the Cold war era.
And it is funny to see that someone from Mexico has been fed such ideology
and just does not want to admit that the world has changed, that the Soviet union does not exist anymore, that Russia is not the SU.Regarding to your understanding of "western civilization", western civilization is not the whole world.
Has Russia changed?
After Crimea what is next?
"May be" Trump and Putin will do good to your "western civilization" time will tell.
lifeisadream: Regarding to your understanding of "western civilization", western civilization is not the whole world.
Has Russia changed?
After Crimea what is next?
"May be" Trump and Putin will do good to your "western civilization" time will tell.
Has Russia changed?
After Crimea what is next?
"May be" Trump and Putin will do good to your "western civilization" time will tell.
Check out what western civilization encompasses - and I never said the whole world!
Crimea has always been Russian, check the facts.
Putin, Trump....and many others will join them, I am sure. Just read that the UK (one of the US lapdogs!) criticized Obama/Kerry with regards to Israel.
Capricorn143: Check out what western civilization encompasses - and I never said the whole world!
That is exactly my point.
Crimea has always been Russian, check the facts.
Really? then:
Why Putin took Crimea
Putin, Trump....and many others will join them, I am sure. Just read that the UK (one of the US lapdogs!) criticized Obama/Kerry with regards to Israel.
That is exactly my point.
Crimea has always been Russian, check the facts.
Really? then:
Why Putin took Crimea
Putin, Trump....and many others will join them, I am sure. Just read that the UK (one of the US lapdogs!) criticized Obama/Kerry with regards to Israel.
Putin and Trump actions will be seen soon.
Capricorn143: Check out what western civilization encompasses - and I never said the whole world!
That is exactly my point.
Crimea has always been Russian, check the facts.
Really? then:
Why Putin took Crimea
Putin, Trump....and many others will join them, I am sure. Just read that the UK (one of the US lapdogs!) criticized Obama/Kerry with regards to Israel.
That is exactly my point.
Crimea has always been Russian, check the facts.
Really? then:
Why Putin took Crimea
Putin, Trump....and many others will join them, I am sure. Just read that the UK (one of the US lapdogs!) criticized Obama/Kerry with regards to Israel.
"The Ukrainian territory of Crimea was annexed by the Russian Federation on 18 March 2014.
Since then, the peninsula has been administered as two de facto Russian federal subjects—the Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol, which, until 2016, were grouped in the Crimean Federal District.
The annexation was preceded by a military intervention by Russia in Crimea, which took place in the aftermath of the 2014 Ukrainian revolution and was part of wider unrest across southern and eastern Ukraine.
On 22–23 February, Russian President Vladimir Putin convened an all-night meeting with security services chiefs to discuss extrication of the deposed Ukrainian President, Viktor Yanukovych, and at the end of that meeting Putin had remarked that "we must start working on returning Crimea to Russia."
Have a good day Capri I have not interest in discussing any subject with you unless you do your homework.
lifeisadream: "The Ukrainian territory of Crimea was annexed by the Russian Federation on 18 March 2014.
Since then, the peninsula has been administered as two de facto Russian federal subjects—the Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol, which, until 2016, were grouped in the Crimean Federal District.
The annexation was preceded by a military intervention by Russia in Crimea, which took place in the aftermath of the 2014 Ukrainian revolution and was part of wider unrest across southern and eastern Ukraine.
On 22–23 February, Russian President Vladimir Putin convened an all-night meeting with security services chiefs to discuss extrication of the deposed Ukrainian President, Viktor Yanukovych, and at the end of that meeting Putin had remarked that "we must start working on returning Crimea to Russia."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation
Have a good day Capri I have not interest in discussing any subject with you unless you do your homework.
Since then, the peninsula has been administered as two de facto Russian federal subjects—the Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol, which, until 2016, were grouped in the Crimean Federal District.
The annexation was preceded by a military intervention by Russia in Crimea, which took place in the aftermath of the 2014 Ukrainian revolution and was part of wider unrest across southern and eastern Ukraine.
On 22–23 February, Russian President Vladimir Putin convened an all-night meeting with security services chiefs to discuss extrication of the deposed Ukrainian President, Viktor Yanukovych, and at the end of that meeting Putin had remarked that "we must start working on returning Crimea to Russia."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation
Have a good day Capri I have not interest in discussing any subject with you unless you do your homework.
lifeisadream: "The Ukrainian territory of Crimea was annexed by the Russian Federation on 18 March 2014.
Since then, the peninsula has been administered as two de facto Russian federal subjects—the Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol, which, until 2016, were grouped in the Crimean Federal District.
The annexation was preceded by a military intervention by Russia in Crimea, which took place in the aftermath of the 2014 Ukrainian revolution and was part of wider unrest across southern and eastern Ukraine.
On 22–23 February, Russian President Vladimir Putin convened an all-night meeting with security services chiefs to discuss extrication of the deposed Ukrainian President, Viktor Yanukovych, and at the end of that meeting Putin had remarked that "we must start working on returning Crimea to Russia."
Have a good day Capri I have not interest in discussing any subject with you unless you do your homework.
Since then, the peninsula has been administered as two de facto Russian federal subjects—the Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol, which, until 2016, were grouped in the Crimean Federal District.
The annexation was preceded by a military intervention by Russia in Crimea, which took place in the aftermath of the 2014 Ukrainian revolution and was part of wider unrest across southern and eastern Ukraine.
On 22–23 February, Russian President Vladimir Putin convened an all-night meeting with security services chiefs to discuss extrication of the deposed Ukrainian President, Viktor Yanukovych, and at the end of that meeting Putin had remarked that "we must start working on returning Crimea to Russia."
Have a good day Capri I have not interest in discussing any subject with you unless you do your homework.
Well, Life in this case the one that should do her homework is you, history did not begin on 2014.
If you look at the facts, not only what CNN and the likes present, you will find out about the status of Crimea before the whole Ukraine problem was created by Obama and stupid EU politicians following him.
You may even find out about the demographics of Crimea and about - OMG what a blasphemy - the referendum of the people of Crimea.
so, do your homework
Capricorn143: Well, Life in this case the one that should do her homework is you, history did not begin on 2014.
If you look at the facts, not only what CNN and the likes present, you will find out about the status of Crimea before the whole Ukraine problem was created by Obama and stupid EU politicians following him.
You may even find out about the demographics of Crimea and about - OMG what a blasphemy - the referendum of the people of Crimea.
so, do your homework
If you look at the facts, not only what CNN and the likes present, you will find out about the status of Crimea before the whole Ukraine problem was created by Obama and stupid EU politicians following him.
You may even find out about the demographics of Crimea and about - OMG what a blasphemy - the referendum of the people of Crimea.
so, do your homework
"the whole Ukraine problem was created by Obama and stupid EU politicians following him."
lifeisadream: "the whole Ukraine problem was created by Obama and stupid EU politicians following him."
Of course it was - read up on that!
And while you are at it, maybe you will find out the answers to the other issues I mentioned. Happy reading Life!
Capricorn143: Of course it was - read up on that!
And while you are at it, maybe you will find out the answers to the other issues I mentioned. Happy reading Life!
And while you are at it, maybe you will find out the answers to the other issues I mentioned. Happy reading Life!
I do not read Pamella Geller publications and neither the wnd stuff nor do I base my opinions on you tube videos.
lifeisadream: Regarding to your understanding of "western civilization", western civilization is not the whole world.
Has Russia changed?
After Crimea what is next?
"May be" Trump and Putin will do good to your "western civilization" time will tell.
Has Russia changed?
After Crimea what is next?
"May be" Trump and Putin will do good to your "western civilization" time will tell.
The referendum showed that the majority of the Crimean population voted for the separation from Ukraine but the UN didn't accept it... Obviously they "know" better what the locals actually want...
lifeisadream: I do not read Pamella Geller publications and neither the wnd stuff nor do I base my opinions on you tube videos.
Well, as you seem to be so opinionated about certain media, how about reading some history books? Watching documentaries (hint: you will find them on youtube) but hey don't stick to your CNN lying media
KremaP: The referendum showed that the majority of the Crimean population voted for the separation from Ukraine but the UN didn't accept it... Obviously they "know" better what the locals actually want...
They never asked in 1947 the local population in Palestine,if wanted the creation of a new state,and on top
of it to be called Israel. It was the UN decision.
I have the feeling,if it was a referendum,it would be rejected outright by the Palestinians...
No need to search for a culprit.
UK had the UN mandate,they handled according to their interests.-
Capricorn143: Well, as you seem to be so opinionated about certain media, how about reading some history books? Watching documentaries (hint: you will find them on youtube) but hey don't stick to your CNN lying media
this was for Life
yeah its all pretty sick stuff
Four sitting presidents have been killed, all of them by gunshot: Abraham Lincoln (the 16th President), James A. Garfield (the 20th President), William McKinley (the 25th President) and John F. Kennedy (the 35th President).
Four sitting presidents have been killed, all of them by gunshot: Abraham Lincoln (the 16th President), James A. Garfield (the 20th President), William McKinley (the 25th President) and John F. Kennedy (the 35th President).
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Whose interests have been in Obama and Clinton's game? Not the common good USA interests for sure.
Obama may be the worst American president, which would not be of our concern if he hadn't affected the whole world by his lack of leadership. His dilly-dallying in the ME and elsewhere, has only empowered the radical forces in those regions and create chaos everywhere.
We do know what Clinton would do if she had been elected and that is much scarier, so what Putin and Trump do may be to our benefit not detriment. ("our" meaning the western civilization)