Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel. (264)

Oct 20, 2013 3:59 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
nokundi
nokundinokundicountryside, Hessen Germany3 Threads 2 Polls 1,368 Posts
Glatlol: Are you asking me?

Please quote the person you are responding to.


yes you, glatlol
Oct 20, 2013 4:01 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
nokundi
nokundinokundicountryside, Hessen Germany3 Threads 2 Polls 1,368 Posts
chris27292729: You better start teaching Geography.


you should know the difference between reading and experiencingrolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 20, 2013 4:01 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
nokundi: yes you, glatlol



Ok, so if you didnt know the lady how can you say she was strange?
Oct 20, 2013 4:02 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
SoonerGal
SoonerGalSoonerGalPonca City, Oklahoma USA21 Threads 10 Polls 2,363 Posts
Conrad73: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2079328/Priests-brawl-Bethlehems-Church-Nativity-clergy-fight-Christmas-cleaning.html



kind of resembles what happens here laugh hole
Oct 20, 2013 4:02 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
nokundi
nokundinokundicountryside, Hessen Germany3 Threads 2 Polls 1,368 Posts
Glatlol: Ok, so if you didnt know the lady how can you say she was strange?


you know her? if not, how can you say she is not strange ?
Oct 20, 2013 4:04 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
SoonerGal: well, you know what...see that's the problem, people think everyone is "conditioned" into what they believe...grant you I'm sure the raising I got in that lil white church influenced some of my belief, however....I don't go to church...I read my bible and that's all I know, I'm too bull headed for someone to brainwash me, actually been known as a rebel...so with that being said must of been something more than what your implying?


We are all conditioned into beliefs at first. Especially where religion is concerned. But as we grow up we start to question things and throw out some beliefs and embrace others. And that's how we become adults.

But when things are largely accepted by those around us we tend to accept them without too much questioning. And that opens the door for mass deception.

If you look at the full range of what claims to be christianity, including catholics, baptists, mormons, Jehovah's Witness, Pentacostalists, quakers, Unitarians, etc etc etc I think you'll have to agree that there are plenty of cracks, allowing for false doctrines to enter in and take root.

In the interest of helping you clean out your mental cupboard, may I suggest a pamphlet that you can read online, entitled "Why I left Scofieldism". (note if you find the text too small just select it all and copy it to Word or Write and then adjust the print size.

Oct 20, 2013 4:04 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
nokundi: you know her? if not, how can you say she is not strange ?



Why answer a question with a question?

Maeve Binchy is one of the most loved and well known authors in this Country, please do no try blacken her name simply to score points over me.
Oct 20, 2013 4:08 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
nokundi
nokundinokundicountryside, Hessen Germany3 Threads 2 Polls 1,368 Posts
Glatlol: Why answer a question with a question?

Maeve Binchy is one of the most loved and well known authors in this Country, please do no try blacken her name simply to score points over me.


this woman seems strange to me, coz when her whole lifetime believe dependants on a visit, that is not like she has expected it, and therefore she looses her faith, very strange very, very strange, her believe must have been very hmm how to say , shallow

ok. you dont know her either
Oct 20, 2013 4:10 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
nokundi: this woman seems strange to me, coz when her whole lifetime believe dependants on a visit, that is not like she has expected it, and therefore she looses her faith, very strange very, very strange, her believe must have been very hmm how to say , shallow

ok. you dont know her either




lol and I reckon a grown man trying to score points from behind a computer screen would be viewed by this highly intelligent lady as really hmmmm how to say , sad.
Oct 20, 2013 4:11 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
Pom_Pom
Pom_PomPom_PomBuenos Aires, Argentina71 Threads 32 Polls 1,740 Posts
No, they should mind their nown business.
Oct 20, 2013 4:12 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
SoonerGal: kind of resembles what happens here
The fight had only one winner. The Greek Orthodox priests won.yay yay yay applause applause applause applause cheering cheering cheering cheering rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 20, 2013 4:12 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
Pom_Pom
Pom_PomPom_PomBuenos Aires, Argentina71 Threads 32 Polls 1,740 Posts
Pom_Pom: No, they should mind their nown business.



*own
Oct 20, 2013 4:13 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
nokundi
nokundinokundicountryside, Hessen Germany3 Threads 2 Polls 1,368 Posts
Glatlol: lol and I reckon a grown man trying to score points from behind a computer screen would be viewed by this highly intelligent lady as really hmmmm how to say , sad.
Oct 20, 2013 4:17 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
nokundi
nokundinokundicountryside, Hessen Germany3 Threads 2 Polls 1,368 Posts
Glatlol: lol and I reckon a grown man trying to score points from behind a computer screen would be viewed by this highly intelligent lady as really hmmmm how to say , sad.


thats what you say, it is not my purpose to score points
Oct 20, 2013 4:20 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
SoonerGal
SoonerGalSoonerGalPonca City, Oklahoma USA21 Threads 10 Polls 2,363 Posts
RayfromUSA: We are all conditioned into beliefs at first. Especially where religion is concerned. But as we grow up we start to question things and throw out some beliefs and embrace others. And that's how we become adults.

But when things are largely accepted by those around us we tend to accept them without too much questioning. And that opens the door for mass deception.

If you look at the full range of what claims to be christianity, including catholics, baptists, mormons, Jehovah's Witness, Pentacostalists, quakers, Unitarians, etc etc etc I think you'll have to agree that there are plenty of cracks, allowing for false doctrines to enter in and take root.

In the interest of helping you clean out your mental cupboard, may I suggest a pamphlet that you can read online, entitled "Why I left Scofieldism". (note if you find the text too small just select it all and copy it to Word or Write and then adjust the print size.




"The Scofield Reference Bible" First of all I don't know what this is...I have my Grandmother's Bible which is the KJV by the World Publishing Company, I've heard about revised bibles and as a matter of fact, they are revising the Bible today as we speak...taking out so many things only to fit into today's society....replacing with things that people will accept and better suit their lifestyles, the publisher doing this is Wycliffe Bible...it's such a disgrace how things get altered just to satisfy a certain lifestyle
Oct 20, 2013 5:57 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
Monkeywheels
MonkeywheelsMonkeywheelsMalaga, Andalusia Spain36 Posts
Checkers101: Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.

Please comment on whether Israel should fight its own battles or whether the US should keep intervening on their behalf.

US should keep their noses out,you just end up with a bloodied one.
Oct 20, 2013 6:05 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
Monkeywheels: US should keep their noses out,you just end up with a bloodied one.

You'd love that,would you?
Oct 20, 2013 6:13 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
Monkeywheels
MonkeywheelsMonkeywheelsMalaga, Andalusia Spain36 Posts
How dare you address me with that beard!Shave it off at once soldier!!scold
Oct 20, 2013 6:14 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
Conrad73: You'd love that,would you?
All we need now is ol' Galrads back for a right tussle. grin
Oct 20, 2013 6:25 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
Torless
TorlessTorlessChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand9 Threads 1,499 Posts
grin popcorn ......hmmm .....interesting..
Oct 20, 2013 6:38 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
SoonerGal: "The Scofield Reference Bible" First of all I don't know what this is...I have my Grandmother's Bible which is the KJV by the World Publishing Company, I've heard about revised bibles and as a matter of fact, they are revising the Bible today as we speak...taking out so many things only to fit into today's society....replacing with things that people will accept and better suit their lifestyles, the publisher doing this is Wycliffe Bible...it's such a disgrace how things get altered just to satisfy a certain lifestyle


Yes, you hardly see the Scofield Reference Bible anymore. It's a big old Bible-Thumper's bible that has pretty much disappeared now. Nobody would want to be seen carrying one.

It was however a standard KJV bible like yours, but it had all sorts of footnotes and comments on both sides of the page, at the bottom of the page and in a column down the middle of each page. And the poison was in the footnotes, not the bible text itself.

You may have never heard of dispensationalism, or Scofield, but the doctrine you got at that little white church was certainly strongly influenced by it, that's clear from what you posted earlier.

I could fill page after page on the subject, but others have already done a better job of it than I can. I think you would find it well worth your time to investigate a little.

This video describes the most extreme form of dispensationalism, also called Christian Zionism. I don't agree with everything they say in the video, but it gives a basic idea of what sort of fanaticism it is.



This is the kind of insanity that dispensationalism leads to.
Fanaticism replaces love as the basis. It's like they threw out the whole New Testament. These supposed Christians have become full-fledged pharisees.
Oct 20, 2013 6:41 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
nokundi: i never had probs travelling through muslim countries coz of religion. Especially in iran i was very welcomed. But over here (germany)the ppl. think that the ppl. in iran are all fanatics, fundamentalist crazy persons. Maybe the leaders are, but i cannot say the whole country.That picture of these crazy fanatic iranians is made by the medias. They are so strong into condition ppl.


Exactly, the media exists to control people's thoughts.
It doesn't reflect the truth. It reinforces a desired delusion.
Oct 20, 2013 6:42 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
Torless
TorlessTorlessChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand9 Threads 1,499 Posts
RayfromUSA: Yes, you hardly see the Scofield Reference Bible anymore. It's a big old Bible-Thumper's bible that has pretty much disappeared now. Nobody would want to be seen carrying one.

It was however a standard KJV bible like yours, but it had all sorts of footnotes and comments on both sides of the page, at the bottom of the page and in a column down the middle of each page. And the poison was in the footnotes, not the bible text itself.

You may have never heard of dispensationalism, or Scofield, but the doctrine you got at that little white church was certainly strongly influenced by it, that's clear from what you posted earlier.

I could fill page after page on the subject, but others have already done a better job of it than I can. I think you would find it well worth your time to investigate a little.

This video describes the most extreme form of dispensationalism, also called Christian Zionism. I don't agree with everything they say in the video, but it gives a basic idea of what sort of fanaticism it is.



This is the kind of insanity that dispensationalism leads to.
Fanaticism replaces love as the basis. It's like they threw out the whole New Testament. These supposed Christians have become full-fledged pharisees.


Ray, you would have to have a very good understanding like your, to be begin to even be able to dissect this information, I imagine.

In a nutshell, what are you saying, for those of us that are less well read :)
Oct 20, 2013 6:56 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
Monkeywheels
MonkeywheelsMonkeywheelsMalaga, Andalusia Spain36 Posts
Torless: Ray, you would have to have a very good understanding like your, to be begin to even be able to dissect this information, I imagine.

In a nutshell, what are you saying, for those of us that are less well read :)

I didnt even read it.Im waiting for the next short post so I can catch up.
Oct 20, 2013 7:05 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
SoonerGal
SoonerGalSoonerGalPonca City, Oklahoma USA21 Threads 10 Polls 2,363 Posts
RayfromUSA: Yes, you hardly see the Scofield Reference Bible anymore. It's a big old Bible-Thumper's bible that has pretty much disappeared now. Nobody would want to be seen carrying one.

It was however a standard KJV bible like yours, but it had all sorts of footnotes and comments on both sides of the page, at the bottom of the page and in a column down the middle of each page. And the poison was in the footnotes, not the bible text itself.

You may have never heard of dispensationalism, or Scofield, but the doctrine you got at that little white church was certainly strongly influenced by it, that's clear from what you posted earlier.

I could fill page after page on the subject, but others have already done a better job of it than I can. I think you would find it well worth your time to investigate a little.

This video describes the most extreme form of dispensationalism, also called Christian Zionism. I don't agree with everything they say in the video, but it gives a basic idea of what sort of fanaticism it is.



This is the kind of insanity that dispensationalism leads to.
Fanaticism replaces love as the basis. It's like they threw out the whole New Testament. These supposed Christians have become full-fledged pharisees.



what did I say to make you think that? Also I have a question...some are saying I was conditioned....how is it they can say I was conditioned, what is their proof and they weren't under any kind of conditioning, just me? nonsense...
Oct 20, 2013 7:16 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
Torless
TorlessTorlessChristchurch, Canterbury New Zealand9 Threads 1,499 Posts
we have all been conditioned.....grin I prefer conditoner in my haor ..less knotsgrin
Oct 20, 2013 7:17 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
SoonerGal
SoonerGalSoonerGalPonca City, Oklahoma USA21 Threads 10 Polls 2,363 Posts
Torless: we have all been conditioned..... I prefer conditoner in my haor ..less knots


laugh me too
Oct 20, 2013 7:22 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
The U.S.should keep their noses out of it stop sticking it's noses in where it doesn't belong.

We should take care of our own over here.
Oct 20, 2013 9:09 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
Dadude62
Dadude62Dadude62Elkton, Maryland USA1,120 Posts
Glatlol: I just think it is an interesting fact and thought of it when you mentioned wanting to go to Israel, thats all.It was a "veil falling from the eyes" moment for her, having been a devote Catholic all her life she realised it was all a lie.


The woman finally admitted her doubt that had been there all along.
Oct 20, 2013 9:13 PM CST Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
Dadude62
Dadude62Dadude62Elkton, Maryland USA1,120 Posts
RayfromUSA: Yes, you hardly see the Scofield Reference Bible anymore. It's a big old Bible-Thumper's bible that has pretty much disappeared now. Nobody would want to be seen carrying one.

It was however a standard KJV bible like yours, but it had all sorts of footnotes and comments on both sides of the page, at the bottom of the page and in a column down the middle of each page. And the poison was in the footnotes, not the bible text itself.

You may have never heard of dispensationalism, or Scofield, but the doctrine you got at that little white church was certainly strongly influenced by it, that's clear from what you posted earlier.

I could fill page after page on the subject, but others have already done a better job of it than I can. I think you would find it well worth your time to investigate a little.

This video describes the most extreme form of dispensationalism, also called Christian Zionism. I don't agree with everything they say in the video, but it gives a basic idea of what sort of fanaticism it is.



This is the kind of insanity that dispensationalism leads to.
Fanaticism replaces love as the basis. It's like they threw out the whole New Testament. These supposed Christians have become full-fledged pharisees.


Thanks Ray,
Now maybe some of these bible thumpers on here can understand what I mean when I say I don't like "believers" meddling in politics,,,,
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