Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel. (264)
the khazars dont have the cajones to fight the ginks
but they'll do anything to soften up russia. it's in their bolshevic blood.
but they'll do anything to soften up russia. it's in their bolshevic blood.
Draegoneer: A minor note. It would seem that Crimea was gifted to Ukraine some time back. 1954 I think. A gesture from Khrushchev. Crimea did hold a vote to be back directly with Russia. Russia acted on that. I did start gathering information as to why it matters now over then but Crimea wasn't really annexed as the media would portray. I lost track of the details after reading about the vote. It no longer mattered as much after that.
I cannot find the article now, but remember that Kruschev was drunk when he just turned Crimea over to Ukraine, a republic in Russian Federation. Before that Crimea was autonomous, I think it was even one of the republics,
For those not completely brainwashed by MSM, read more here:
The following gives you a review of the history of the region, the population throughout the history, the change of the name of the region, how the Brits/UN "resolved the ownership of the lands taken from the Otoman (Palestine - the area much, much larger than what we know today).
http://hubpages.com/politics/The-Jewish-Conspiracy-and-The-Coming-World-Domination
Among other things:
who was given the land:
Of the 118,000 square kilometers originally assigned by the Mandate to create a Jewish homeland 91,000 had been given to the new Arab nation of Jordan. In later years Jordan would annex "the West Bank" which accounted for another 5700 sq km. Jordan share was now 96,700 sq km. The Golan heights were eventually given to Syria and The Gaza strip was occupied by Egypt. In total of the original land area of 118,000 sq km The Arabs received 98,000 sq km and the Jews ended up with 8000 sq km which they could inhabit and 12,000 sq km of the Negav Desert which they were not allowed to settle because 15,000 Bedouin were believed to "use" the Negav leaving it "out of bounds" for the Jews. This became known as the UN Partition plan. The Jews accepted the plan while the Arab nations rejected it. ".
The name of Palestine:
The name Palestine, which came from the Greek language and was adopted by the Romans, was given to the area when the Romans renamed "Judea" to remove the Jewish connection from the land.As we can see it didn't work. The Jews remain and they always will in their own land. But what of the Arab people who, also, can trace their history back thousands of years to the same area. What do they deserve. During the British Mandate the dividing of Palestine was to provide a homeland for the Jews and for the Arab population as well. The new country of Jordan was the Arab share of Palestine. After the new Kingdom of Jordan was set up by the British the Arab Palestinians found themselves "persons non gratis" They were no longer welcomed in Jordan. After the 1948 war there were hundreds of thousands of Arab Palestinians who found themselves refugees in the land that was rightfully theirs...Jordan.
http://hubpages.com/politics/The-Jewish-Conspiracy-and-The-Coming-World-Domination
Among other things:
who was given the land:
Of the 118,000 square kilometers originally assigned by the Mandate to create a Jewish homeland 91,000 had been given to the new Arab nation of Jordan. In later years Jordan would annex "the West Bank" which accounted for another 5700 sq km. Jordan share was now 96,700 sq km. The Golan heights were eventually given to Syria and The Gaza strip was occupied by Egypt. In total of the original land area of 118,000 sq km The Arabs received 98,000 sq km and the Jews ended up with 8000 sq km which they could inhabit and 12,000 sq km of the Negav Desert which they were not allowed to settle because 15,000 Bedouin were believed to "use" the Negav leaving it "out of bounds" for the Jews. This became known as the UN Partition plan. The Jews accepted the plan while the Arab nations rejected it. ".
The name of Palestine:
The name Palestine, which came from the Greek language and was adopted by the Romans, was given to the area when the Romans renamed "Judea" to remove the Jewish connection from the land.As we can see it didn't work. The Jews remain and they always will in their own land. But what of the Arab people who, also, can trace their history back thousands of years to the same area. What do they deserve. During the British Mandate the dividing of Palestine was to provide a homeland for the Jews and for the Arab population as well. The new country of Jordan was the Arab share of Palestine. After the new Kingdom of Jordan was set up by the British the Arab Palestinians found themselves "persons non gratis" They were no longer welcomed in Jordan. After the 1948 war there were hundreds of thousands of Arab Palestinians who found themselves refugees in the land that was rightfully theirs...Jordan.
chris27292729: What is well known is this.
The Jews despersed and left their forefathers land.
In i935 were a handfull of Jews and millions of Arabs in the area.
Just because some British jews vowed to restore and after the end of the war2 succeeded,
it doesn't mean the Arabs have to accept that their land of over 2000 years has to be handed over to
the jews???
Ask the Arabs,how they feel thrown out of their forefathers land,to make room for the Jews.
As you say the ownership of those lands,has been many and confused.
For sure not by the jews the last 2000 years,by the Arabs yes,and there is no doupt about it.
From those Arabs,Israel claimed this land,handed over by the UN, which in my opinion had no right, to do such a thing,giving land back to those who had abandoned their land 2000 years before.-
The Jews despersed and left their forefathers land.
In i935 were a handfull of Jews and millions of Arabs in the area.
Just because some British jews vowed to restore and after the end of the war2 succeeded,
it doesn't mean the Arabs have to accept that their land of over 2000 years has to be handed over to
the jews???
Ask the Arabs,how they feel thrown out of their forefathers land,to make room for the Jews.
As you say the ownership of those lands,has been many and confused.
For sure not by the jews the last 2000 years,by the Arabs yes,and there is no doupt about it.
From those Arabs,Israel claimed this land,handed over by the UN, which in my opinion had no right, to do such a thing,giving land back to those who had abandoned their land 2000 years before.-
I think I'm with you.But every nationalism is like a state of mind, a self-made reality.
During centuries the european jews yearned Jerusalem and now they control the whole territory. It was an utopy but today it's a fact.
Checkers101: Do you think the U.S. should take a neutral stance regarding Israel.
Please comment on whether Israel should fight its own battles or whether the US should keep intervening on their behalf.
Please comment on whether Israel should fight its own battles or whether the US should keep intervening on their behalf.
it depends. is Israel the "first" state of US or is US the "first" state of Israel.
Is time to implement the Two-state solution
I wonder what Solomon would have mandated to do in the Israel-Palestine territorial affair.
lifeisadream: I wonder what Solomon would have mandated to do in the Israel-Palestine territorial affair.
He would offer to cut the baby in half , which by Allah's will was done few years back . Unfortunately one mother wanted both halves via the right of return . Hang it all she was even offered the head , Jerusalem , as placation , but no she said I don't want peace . 
the trumpy is delivering, says he's opening a US embassy in Israel,
today he fired all the state dept's foreign ambassadors globally...they have 14 days
to get out and i believe yesterday's newly elected congress just passed a law where they could cut gubmint
salaries to one dollar a year, i can here the toilet flushing...expect more howling and screaming from the
neo's and lifelong libtard polecats & goobermint workers...The US pravda media is irrelevant so they can
scream and have fits all they want and i'll laugh at them while hearing them on Infowars clips.
Hearing neocons john mcstain and lindsey gramnesty crowing/cryin alongside the libtards is hilarious.
today he fired all the state dept's foreign ambassadors globally...they have 14 days
to get out and i believe yesterday's newly elected congress just passed a law where they could cut gubmint
salaries to one dollar a year, i can here the toilet flushing...expect more howling and screaming from the
neo's and lifelong libtard polecats & goobermint workers...The US pravda media is irrelevant so they can
scream and have fits all they want and i'll laugh at them while hearing them on Infowars clips.
Hearing neocons john mcstain and lindsey gramnesty crowing/cryin alongside the libtards is hilarious.
No, it's not the Illuminati. Its the SWANPNATTI !
pizza-shaped pin !! the swamp is getting bigger and bigger.
pizza-shaped pin !! the swamp is getting bigger and bigger.
epirb: He would offer to cut the baby in half , which by Allah's will was done few years back . Unfortunately one mother wanted both halves via the right of return . Hang it all she was even offered the head , Jerusalem , as placation , but no she said I don't want peace .
Solomon was given his wisdom directly from his God.
What if Solomon had said let us give the baby to a 3rd mother, because these two are never going to be in peace.
Where is that 3rd. mother? who would be that 3rd. mother?
Time to take away all infidel technological devices not only the ones the certain ones choose they want 
A devout Arab Muslim got into a cab in London. She curtly asked the 'cab driver' to turn off the radio because her religious doctrine forbade her listening to music.
The Cab driver politely asked why.
His passenger replied that in the time of the Holy Prophet there was no music, especially Western music, which is the music of the infidel.
The cab driver politely switched off the radio, stopped the cab and opened the door for his passenger to disembark.
The Arab Muslim was surprised and asked him: "What are you doing???"
The Cab driver answered:
"In the time of the Holy Prophet, there were no taxis, no bombs, no plane hijacks, no west invented loud speakers in mosques that woke up newly born, the elderly and the sick at unearthly hours, no suicide attacks, no RDX, no AK 47;
only 'PEACE' everywhere.
So shut up, get Out and wait for a camel.
A devout Arab Muslim got into a cab in London. She curtly asked the 'cab driver' to turn off the radio because her religious doctrine forbade her listening to music.
The Cab driver politely asked why.
His passenger replied that in the time of the Holy Prophet there was no music, especially Western music, which is the music of the infidel.
The cab driver politely switched off the radio, stopped the cab and opened the door for his passenger to disembark.
The Arab Muslim was surprised and asked him: "What are you doing???"
The Cab driver answered:
"In the time of the Holy Prophet, there were no taxis, no bombs, no plane hijacks, no west invented loud speakers in mosques that woke up newly born, the elderly and the sick at unearthly hours, no suicide attacks, no RDX, no AK 47;
only 'PEACE' everywhere.
So shut up, get Out and wait for a camel.
epirb: He would offer to cut the baby in half , which by Allah's will was done few years back . Unfortunately one mother wanted both halves via the right of return . Hang it all she was even offered the head , Jerusalem , as placation , but no she said I don't want peace .
Very right.""One mother wanted both halves"""
lifeisadream: I wonder what Solomon would have mandated to do in the Israel-Palestine territorial affair.
Solomon would say: "Do what my father did."
GUZMAN1: Solomon would say: "Do what my father did."
that Stone was aimed else-where!
Conrad73: that Stone was aimed else-where!
Conrad73: that Stone was aimed else-where!
actually much lower than the Forehead!
It was a miraculous stone.
GUZMAN1: It was a miraculous stone.
David presumably hit Goliath's "Stones" with his Stone!
Conrad73: David presumably hit Goliath's "Stones" with his Stone!
Must be a very big stone, to kill a giant by such a place 
WIKIPEDIA SAYS: === Goliath's injury and fall ===
The biblical account describes Goliath as falling on his face after he is struck by a stone that sank into his forehead. British rabbi [[Jonathan Magonet]] has discussed some of the textual difficulties this raises.<ref>Magonet, Jonathan (1992) ''Biblical Lives''. London: SCM, 59–60</ref> In the first place, he notes that archaeological information suggests that Philistine helmets generally had a forehead covering, in some cases extending down to the nose. Why (he asks) should David aim at such an impenetrable spot (and how did it hit with such force to penetrate thick bone)? And why should Goliath fall forward when struck by something heavy enough to stop him, rather than backwards? An answer to both questions, Magonet suggests, lies in the Hebrew word ''meitzach'' (?????? ''mê?a?''), normally translated forehead. A word almost identical with it appears earlier in the passage—the word ''mitzchat'' (??????? ''mi??a?''), translated as "greaves"—the flexible leg-armour that protected Goliath's lower leg (see I Samuel 17: 6). It is possible, grammatically in the passage, for the same word to be used in verse 49, a reconstruction of which, replacing ?????? with ???????, would imply that the stone sank down behind Goliath's leg-armour (as his leg was bent), making it impossible for him to straighten his leg, and causing him to stumble and fall. Then David removed the head of Goliath to show all that the giant was killed.
GUZMAN1: ..."
Samson and Goliath is a perfect allegory regarding the fighting between Palestinians and Israelites because Goliath is getting the $$$ help from USA.
What about sending them all to Syria, Palestinians and Israelites.
sorry, I got influenced by Trump's twittering way of diplomacy!
lifeisadream: Samson and Goliath is a perfect allegory regarding the fighting between Palestinians and Israelites because Goliath is getting the $$$ help from USA.
What about sending them all to Syria, Palestinians and Israelites.
sorry, I got influenced by Trump's twittering way of diplomacy!
What about sending them all to Syria, Palestinians and Israelites.
sorry, I got influenced by Trump's twittering way of diplomacy!
Be careful. Maybe they are reading at this site.
GUZMAN1: Be careful. Maybe they are reading at this site.
(if you knew what is going on in this land's internet regarding to Trump
)Have you checked the "man in black" that are outside your place?
or
are there "women in white" instead?
lifeisadream: (if you knew what is going on in this land's internet regarding to Trump )
Have you checked the "man in black" that are outside your place?
or
are there "women in white" instead?
Have you checked the "man in black" that are outside your place?
or
are there "women in white" instead?
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As far as less meddling, things like obama's "arab springs" and such that have caused great damages to the middle east. Things we should have completed and many other things we should never have gotten involved in have been extreme factors in the rise of the global terrorism index. A major reason in itself to address national security and more, created by something that seems to know nothing about leadership, accountability, or responsibility, or even trying to keep it's word in any form except certain costs would be higher and regulations steeper. The "hope and change" rhetoric wasn't meant for the good of the U.S. and citizens. Too bad not many were actually listening to much of what he was saying either time. Doesn't seem to be much reading either.
Our laws were originally put into place for a reason. Those reasons haven't changed and need to be upheld. Our Constitution was designed for the U.S.. Obviously no other country abides by it because it's not theirs. We have a separation of powers that is supposed to help safe guard the people and the country. The oath of office is to uphold and defend. It needs to be upheld and defended in it's entirety. Government has greatly over stepped it's authority. Not many, if any politicians can claim saying the same things and sticking to them. obama as a senator 2006: it shows a level of irresponsibility to raise the debt ceiling. As a "president?", he was pressing for the ceiling to be raised even in 2015. Trump is the "truly something different" choice. He's been saying the same things for decades. National security falls in line with much of this.
Some of our allies like Israel, shouldn't be left to flounder, ever. obama has continually undermined them. The self destruction of their own party from their own criminality and more needs something or some one to take the blame. It's no longer the "democratic" way to accept the truth of failure and betrayal. Accountability is only good when lieing and crying can make many others believe it's the other guy's fault. Now Russia becomes a target of such tactics as the last great cover up for failure on all fronts.
A minor note. It would seem that Crimea was gifted to Ukraine some time back. 1954 I think. A gesture from Khrushchev. Crimea did hold a vote to be back directly with Russia. Russia acted on that. I did start gathering information as to why it matters now over then but Crimea wasn't really annexed as the media would portray. I lost track of the details after reading about the vote. It no longer mattered as much after that.