okay, my two pence worth and nope I have not read through the thread, can't be bothered (red flag, tough, talk to someone who cares, ooops another red flag)
Without you Sir putting up a sample of the type of mail you send to a potential victim ooops sorry partner (little joke there) then it's hard for any of us to see why you don't get replies. having perved your profile, if I was a female, or gay, I'd run, way, way too negative.
And please "average" come on, if you aren't being honest then hey, don't expect a reply.
Lastly, you nor I can or should expect a reply from anyone unless the want to make a reply. Here's a suggestion to understand why. Make a profile pretending to be a female and see the crap they get through their mail box.
This is how the pay dating sites gets so many people! On here, you can just sit back and watch the world float by and never make a move. On a pay site, it forces you to get motivated. You'll check out those emails, by God, because you paid for them! Also, you can't just sit around on a snipe hunt! You paid to date people, so you've only got so long or your time runs out and with it goes your money. That's the problem here, no motivation. After a while, you pretty much know who's real and who's not. If someone is not willing to Skype or Viber or what ever video system you use or if they refuse to meet in person, then you know 99 out 100 times, they are a scammer! Ladies, if you followed the news last week and saw the lady that was duped out of $300,000.00 by the Nigerian scam artist who told her he was working on a Scottish oil rig. First off, there are NO oil rigs in Scotland! Second, he "couldn't" be seen because of the area he was in! Third, he needed Money for equipment and other supplies that he couldn't get too. If he couldn't get to his original supplies, why would he need money for further materials?! This is a cautionary tale for everyone. However, this goes to illustrate why pay sites motivate people more. Scammers get through but not nearly as much as on here. The Nigerian scammer I just described? He was on Christianmingle,com!
Circleofflame: My poll is part serious because most of the women you write to on CS are not courteous enough to write you back! I, myself, would appreciate a response from each lady, even if it's, "no thanks" , or whatever. Most women say they want a nice guy, honest, with a sense of humor, yet when you write to them, they don't reply?! Why? I, and I think a lot of other guys, would really like to find out! My poll is also humorous and sarcastic, for obvious reasons!
Meet them in real life in a supermarket, drug store , a bar, the dump, any where but internet virtual dating .
CuddlingSoul: Here, as well as on other sites: Ladies receive tons of messages everyday, it can be overwhelming. Was chatting with a lady on another site, she said that she has to delete two or three pages of mail everyday without glancing through them, just so she can deal with the situation and by deleting so much at once, it helps her to have a clear head about responding to the remaining half-ton of mail. You might be the greatest guy in the world, but your message might be discarded, due to the overload.
Who are these women?
In answer to the OP. People are not obliged to answer, its not only women who dont respond you know. No response meansnot interested, personally I prefer that to a mail telling me they are not interested.
No one is obligated to write you back.I read a post by a woman on here that when she replied to a guys message to her and she said she wasn't interested he wrote her a nasty reply.When a lady gets enough nasty relies back it becomes old after awhile.
Circleofflame: This is how the pay dating sites gets so many people! On here, you can just sit back and watch the world float by and never make a move. On a pay site, it forces you to get motivated. You'll check out those emails, by God, because you paid for them! Also, you can't just sit around on a snipe hunt! You paid to date people, so you've only got so long or your time runs out and with it goes your money. That's the problem here, no motivation. After a while, you pretty much know who's real and who's not. If someone is not willing to Skype or Viber or what ever video system you use or if they refuse to meet in person, then you know 99 out 100 times, they are a scammer! Ladies, if you followed the news last week and saw the lady that was duped out of $300,000.00 by the Nigerian scam artist who told her he was working on a Scottish oil rig. First off, there are NO oil rigs in Scotland! Second, he "couldn't" be seen because of the area he was in! Third, he needed Money for equipment and other supplies that he couldn't get too. If he couldn't get to his original supplies, why would he need money for further materials?! This is a cautionary tale for everyone. However, this goes to illustrate why pay sites motivate people more. Scammers get through but not nearly as much as on here. The Nigerian scammer I just described? He was on Christianmingle,com!
Paid sites...might as well take your money and flush it down the loo.
I started on three paid sites. Guess what? They're swarming with scammers too! And there is nothing different between the paid sites and free sites besides the fact that I'm flushing my money down the loo anymore.
To be frank, there is one free site that filters scammers and it doesn't have ads galore. Are the people any better on there than the paid sites? No. Are the people on the paid sites any better than the people on the free sites? No.
The advantage of this site is the wonderful people on here and the chance to kick back, wrap up in a blanket on a cold afternoon, and chit chat here in the forums with people from all over the world. So I haven't met the love on my life on here. Ok. But something else unexpected happened...I am meeting people on here that I care about, who I worry about, who I laugh with and cry with.
A simple adjustment of expectations and attitudes may make you feel better about yourself and this overall experience. It is enriching in more ways than you're allowing yourself to notice. You may not be seeing the forest through the trees.
What's the point? I guess there is no point if you have to ask! It's a poll! That's what the point is!! I've saw postings from guy after guy asking why women don't respond, so I figured I would put it out there. What's the point?!
Circleofflame: This is how the pay dating sites gets so many people! On here, you can just sit back and watch the world float by and never make a move. On a pay site, it forces you to get motivated. You'll check out those emails, by God, because you paid for them! Also, you can't just sit around on a snipe hunt! You paid to date people, so you've only got so long or your time runs out and with it goes your money. That's the problem here, no motivation. After a while, you pretty much know who's real and who's not. If someone is not willing to Skype or Viber or what ever video system you use or if they refuse to meet in person, then you know 99 out 100 times, they are a scammer! Ladies, if you followed the news last week and saw the lady that was duped out of $300,000.00 by the Nigerian scam artist who told her he was working on a Scottish oil rig. First off, there are NO oil rigs in Scotland! Second, he "couldn't" be seen because of the area he was in! Third, he needed Money for equipment and other supplies that he couldn't get too. If he couldn't get to his original supplies, why would he need money for further materials?! This is a cautionary tale for everyone. However, this goes to illustrate why pay sites motivate people more. Scammers get through but not nearly as much as on here. The Nigerian scammer I just described? He was on Christianmingle,com!
How did I bypass this one.
It's not just the scamers you have to worry about.
I know of a guy who was on a pay site and ended up being taken for hundreds of dollars by one of the women who actually worked on that particular pay site.She was posing as a member looking for someone.
Circleofflame: My poll is part serious because most of the women you write to on CS are not courteous enough to write you back! I, myself, would appreciate a response from each lady, even if it's, "no thanks" , or whatever. Most women say they want a nice guy, honest, with a sense of humor, yet when you write to them, they don't reply?! Why? I, and I think a lot of other guys, would really like to find out! My poll is also humorous and sarcastic, for obvious reasons!
My answer is simple and to the point without humour or sarcasm ...
No matter how well crafted you initial approach letter it's really nothing more than direct marketing. In those terms it's an unsolicited approach / offering to a cold prospect and at very best it probably has a 2% chance of success.
Which means of course that it has a 98% likelihood of being ignored!
Now, let me ask YOU Mr Flame, if you get a flyer in your mailbox from a plumber, gardener, double glazing company, lawn mowing company, real estate agent (or anyone else) and YOU 'have no interest' do YOU ring the business who sent the flyer and say 'Thanks but no thanks?'
And, if you don't ... well, why on earth would you expect anyone else to respond any differently to your 'flyers' ?
Tis really that simple!
The 'paid membership sites' are no different in this respect and I disagree that there's any element of 'hurry to find someone before my membership runs out' and there are NO paid sites that place any length on a person's term of membership ... rather the opposite, they hope you join and remain with them forever!
OMG ... you actually though dating site owners wanted you to find a long term partner?
HexagonKeySet: My answer is simple and to the point without humour or sarcasm ...
No matter how well crafted you initial approach letter it's really nothing more than direct marketing. In those terms it's an unsolicited approach / offering to a cold prospect and at very best it probably has a 2% chance of success.
Which means of course that it has a 98% likelihood of being ignored!
Now, let me ask YOU Mr Flame, if you get a flyer in your mailbox from a plumber, gardener, double glazing company, lawn mowing company, real estate agent (or anyone else) and YOU 'have no interest' do YOU ring the business who sent the flyer and say 'Thanks but no thanks?'
And, if you don't ... well, why on earth would you expect anyone else to respond any differently to your 'flyers' ?
Tis really that simple!
The 'paid membership sites' are no different in this respect and I disagree that there's any element of 'hurry to find someone before my membership runs out' and there are NO paid sites that place any length on a person's term of membership ... rather the opposite, they hope you join and remain with them forever!
OMG ... you actually though dating site owners wanted you to find a long term partner?
Now, can't you just imagine yourself standing in there and having your photo taken to put on your profile? Just imagine the hoards of women you'll have beating down your door to score.
2intrigued: Now, can't you just imagine yourself standing in there and having your photo taken to put on your profile? Just imagine the hoards of women you'll have beating down your door to score.
They Would Probably Just Want Some Flowers, But I am a Good talker!
if someone sends me a message with a nice compliment.. I will usually reply and thank the person... it only takes a second or two and its nice to be nice... if they are not my cup of tea I wish them well with their search and that should be the end of it... if they keep messaging you after that? I know I made the right decision in listening to my gut in the first place :) ... these men should understand the term "shes just not that in to you" ... if a guy doesn't reply to my message im mature enough to know "he's just not that in to me!" and that's the end of it, no worries.. its the faceless pictures you got to be careful about.. I replied to one of these, after a bit he send a photo to me.. his profile implied that he was in his 40s... 40s?? he looked more like 70!!.. not everyone here and on other dating sites are sincere. ive learned this.. in the outside world its the same... you just have to use discernment, oh and lads if ye could be more creative and put some effort in to yer messages. "hi" or "how are you?" doesn't do ye any favours ... and the interview type message is so un natural... "can you tell me about yourself?" from my perspective that is a throw your eyes up to the sky message and gets deleted .
I can answer for myself, not based on this site , I don't get emailed enough (does this make me a CS wallflower?), but I will say, often if I don't write back it's cause I can tell the person did NOT read my profile. If someone emails me and matches everything I am NOT interested in, then I'm not going to bother answering. It shows me that they don't pay attention. I do put clues in my profile as to what I like and what I'm into. when they email blindly, it comes off like , oh look a new female I'm gonna hit on her.
I have emailed a few okay I think only three people but I always reference something specific either on their profile or something they said in a post.
Also I tend to not to respond to people I get a sense would never talk to me if I were right in front of them.
okay so that is why I won't respond to some emails.
After joining, I initially answered every mail I received.
Then with the onset of carpal tunnel syndrome from repeating so often in my return mail to them that which was explicit in my profile (I do not go offsite to Yahoo, exchange e-mail addresses, or give out phone #'s) I started to delete everyone who included or requested such things.
Then the ad-orators
But the scammers were determined and ohh soo persistent! Naturally, I had to increase my deleting to include all the U.S. males who think the phrase "I will like" had me fooled.
The sensitivity has now increased (in my wrists) allowing me to do what I want to do - spend time typing and participating in the forums - without feeling guilty!
Circleofflame: My poll is part serious because most of the women you write to on CS are not courteous enough to write you back! I, myself, would appreciate a response from each lady, even if it's, "no thanks" , or whatever. Most women say they want a nice guy, honest, with a sense of humor, yet when you write to them, they don't reply?! Why? I, and I think a lot of other guys, would really like to find out! My poll is also humorous and sarcastic, for obvious reasons!
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Without you Sir putting up a sample of the type of mail you send to a potential
victimooops sorry partner (little joke there) then it's hard for any of us to see why you don't get replies.having perved your profile, if I was a female, or gay, I'd run, way, way too negative.
And please "average" come on, if you aren't being honest then hey, don't expect a reply.
Lastly, you nor I can or should expect a reply from anyone unless the want to make a reply. Here's a suggestion to understand why. Make a profile pretending to be a female and see the crap they get through their mail box.