TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1,107 posts
Masculinity form gangs based on territory and common interest and loyalty is #1. They have your back but god help you if you betray them. Inner cities and red-blooded areas tend to form gangs.
Cliques are essentially fickle coalitions of status. Cliques don't have your back nor do they really care if you leave. Leafy, girly and blue-blooded suburbs tend towards cliques.
TheRedSquirrel87Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK1,107 posts
TheRedSquirrel87: Masculinity form gangs based on territory and common interest and loyalty is #1. They have your back but god help you if you betray them. Inner cities and red-blooded areas tend to form gangs.
Cliques are essentially fickle coalitions of status. Cliques don't have your back nor do they really care if you leave. Leafy, girly and blue-blooded suburbs tend towards cliques.
I won't say if it's good or bad. Some people obviously need them. Many people who say they don't like cliques have tried and failed to be a member of one. I'd wager many people on forums such as this are not quite cool enough to crack the local clique and so they go and form one online.
serena123durban, KwaZulu-Natal South Africa2,821 posts
TheRedSquirrel87: I won't say if it's good or bad. Some people obviously need them. Many people who say they don't like cliques have tried and failed to be a member of one. I'd wager many people on forums such as this are not quite cool enough to crack the local clique and so they go and form one online.
And some aren't even interested in online cliques..
TheRedSquirrel87: I won't say if it's good or bad. Some people obviously need them. Many people who say they don't like cliques have tried and failed to be a member of one. I'd wager many people on forums such as this are not quite cool enough to crack the local clique and so they go and form one online.
TheRedSquirrel87: I won't say if it's good or bad. Some people obviously need them. Many people who say they don't like cliques have tried and failed to be a member of one. I'd wager many people on forums such as this are not quite cool enough to crack the local clique and so they go and form one online.
Might be true for some but most people have other reasons to be online and can chat with people offline as well as on without being part of a clique!
minnieme2: Have no time for them. I'd pick 2, 4, 5, 6, 8 and 10, especially 4-6. Feel sorry for the weak ones, who're afraid to do anything on their own.
Cliques were of no interest to me when I was young and it's not something that would interest me now or ever.
minnieme2: Have no time for them. I'd pick 2, 4, 5, 6, 8 and 10, especially 4-6. Feel sorry for the weak ones, who're afraid to do anything on their own.
clique
a small close-knit group of people who do not readily allow others to join them.
If a small group of people are close friends, does that necessarily mean that they are weak? Does it necessarily mean they are afraid to do things on their own?
If someone is afraid to do things on their own does that mean they're weak? Would a surgeon be a weak person if s/he was afraid to carry out emergency surgery without their theatre team?
How about this business of not readily allowing others to join them? Is that the reality, or the perception of others viewing the friendshp dynamic from the outside? If it is the reality, don't a close group of friends have the right to socialise together as they please?
You will always get groups of people gravitating together either because of circumstances, because they are like-minded, or because they have a common interest.
Why resent, or derogate others for their friendship groups?
Especially if you don't particularly like that group of people - let them get on with it!
a small close-knit group of people who do not readily allow others to join them.
If a small group of people are close friends, does that necessarily mean that they are weak? Does it necessarily mean they are afraid to do things on their own?
If someone is afraid to do things on their own does that mean they're weak? Would a surgeon be a weak person if s/he was afraid to carry out emergency surgery without their theatre team?
How about this business of not readily allowing others to join them? Is that the reality, or the perception of others viewing the friendshp dynamic from the outside? If it is the reality, don't a close group of friends have the right to socialise together as they please?
You will always get groups of people gravitating together either because of circumstances, because they are like-minded, or because they have a common interest.
Why resent, or derogate others for their friendship groups?
Especially if you don't particularly like that group of people - let them get on with it!
I remembered the mass exodus (the clique)of CS, few years back, for greener pastures, to another site.
twazzle70THE GORGOYNES......, East Riding of Yorkshire, England UK689 posts
Never been into the said "clique" thing myself.
Have come across cliques in the real world all my life,as we all have.. In my experience when a member of said "clique" is absent,all the other members get out the voodoo doll effigy of the absentee and proceed to stick pins in it....I think..
chris27292729: I remembered the mass exodus (the clique)of CS, few years back, for greener pastures, to another site.
I think I know the time you're referring to and I got to see a bit of several sides to that story.
Your perception of what happened might not be the perception of others. I think it was a complex set of interactions involving a number of different parties, including the mods.
It could have been handled better by a number of different people, or groups of people, but ultimately it was about a group of people from all over the world who wanted to maintain contact with each other. There's no need to resent that.
a small close-knit group of people who do not readily allow others to join them.
If a small group of people are close friends, does that necessarily mean that they are weak? Does it necessarily mean they are afraid to do things on their own?
If someone is afraid to do things on their own does that mean they're weak? Would a surgeon be a weak person if s/he was afraid to carry out emergency surgery without their theatre team?
How about this business of not readily allowing others to join them? Is that the reality, or the perception of others viewing the friendshp dynamic from the outside? If it is the reality, don't a close group of friends have the right to socialise together as they please?
You will always get groups of people gravitating together either because of circumstances, because they are like-minded, or because they have a common interest.
Why resent, or derogate others for their friendship groups?
Especially if you don't particularly like that group of people - let them get on with it!
Not all groups are cliques. I think most people know that. The poll is about cliques and it's just a poll. If you want to be part of a clique, that's your choice.
twazzle70: Never been into the said "clique" thing myself.
Have come across cliques in the real world all my life,as we all have.. In my experience when a member of said "clique" is absent,all the other members get out the voodoo doll effigy of the absentee and proceed to stick pins in it....I think..
minnieme2: Not all groups are cliques. I think most people know that. The poll is about cliques and it's just a poll. If you want to be part of a clique, that's your choice.
You say it's people's choice, but you original post was so disparaging about cliques, you didn't leave a helluva lot of wiggle room to invite differing opinions. That's kinda reflected in the initial responses you got.
It's almost as if your original lack of neutrality is excluding people you don't want in your group.
Ya see how easy it is to perceive and label something from an outside perspective that has nothing to do with the intent behind the action?
It kinda begs the question, who gets to define a friendship group as a clique?
jac_the_gripper: You say it's people's choice, but you original post was so disparaging about cliques, you didn't leave a helluva lot of wiggle room to invite differing opinions. That's kinda reflected in the initial responses you got.
It's almost as if your original lack of neutrality is excluding people you don't want in your group.
Ya see how easy it is to perceive and label something from an outside perspective that has nothing to do with the intent behind the action?
It kinda begs the question, who gets to define a friendship group as a clique?
Don't get your undies in a knot jac. You could have chosen option 3 or 8. Chill!
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Cliques, good or bad?(Vote Below)
Feel sorry for the weak ones, who're afraid to do anything on their own.